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Thanks Michael and Steven.

 

In the meantime, I decided to apply trenails to the entire hull.

Knowing myself :  If I do not do this,  then I will regret it later.

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This post is double (error from me)
If a moderator reads this, this post may be deleleted.
I am worried about deleting too much myself and erasing the entire building log

 

Thanks Michael and Steven.

 

In the meantime, I decided to apply trenails to the entire hull.

Knowing myself :  If I do not do this,  then I will regret it later.

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All treenails are done on one side of the model.
I have tried to follow the structure of the futtocks and filling frames as much as possible

 

Source the Gresham shipwreck

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Sanded and wiped off with a wet cloth (Still about 1000 treenails to do)

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I have also done a first test for a brown and whit color on the hull

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Greetings

 

Index see post 1

 

 

Posted

Hello,

 

All the treenails have finally been done. There are about 4300 treenails in the hull.

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Earned ;)

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I think I'm first going to put a color on a part of the hull now (red brown and white) 

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thanks for following

Index : see post 1

Posted (edited)

Next step;, mark where the waterline comes

As previewed earlier, the depth is approximately half the width

 

First i clamp the hull and level it.

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Middle deck and aft deck are ok

The for deck is a little bit not ok

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I made a tool to draw the waterline.

Where old lego can be used for. For a few moments I felt 50 years younger....

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Apply masking tape.  And we are ready for painting.

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Painting,

 

I do not make a brand new ship fresh from the shipyard. But a ship that has been at sea for a while. The intention is to create a somewhat weathered appearance.

 

The explanation of the color described in the book “Risse von shiffen des 16. Und 17 jahrhunderts” is very believable .

So, for the color above the waterline, I looked for a reddish brown or chestnut brown color where a little  pale yellow appearance comes through. 

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Tamiya  matte paint  XF 64 red brown is  been used. strongly diluted with iso propyl alcohol.

2 layers of XF 64 paint has been used above the waterline.

Between the two layers is carefully sanded with a scothbrite. As well as after the last layer.

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For the time being there is one layer of diluted Tamiya matt white below the waterline.

No masking tape was used to paint the water line. Why: in the 16th century there was no masking tape yet.  So painting is done with  “de losse hand (Flamish) “ or "a loose hand"  (dont now correct word in English, sorry).

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Thanks for following and likes. 

Next step, painting the upper part of the hull.

 

Index see post 1

Posted
6 hours ago, Backer said:

So painting is done with  “de losse hand (Flamish) “ or "a loose hand"  (dont now correct word in English, sorry).

We'd probably say "freehand". It's looking very good, Patrick.

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Posted

Thank you Steven and GL

My loose hand, or freehand,  is best before drinking a triple beer (or any other beer).

 

Ps,

I can not drink too much. For some reason I always have a hangover in the morning and 2 days headache later on... :(

 

Posted

Thank you lawrence,

 

Normally the shipyard is indeed closed in the winter. 

But I have hung a new lamp on the ceiling in my hobby room. So that in the winter months I have enough light to see enough for shipbuilding.
This new lamp has become a good investment.  If I have time available on the weekend, I continue to build on the Golden Hind.

 

The treenailing has taken more time than planned, but afterwards I have no regrets that I have them fitted on the model.

The painting of the upper hull is now started.

Posted

Wow, I don't know how I missed this log before.  Very nicely done Patrick!

Mike

 

Current Wooden builds:  Amati/Victory Pegasus  MS Charles W. Morgan  Euromodel La Renommèe  

 

Plastic builds:    Hs129B-2 1/48  SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48  Five Star Yaeyama 1/700  Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama  Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32   IJN Notoro 1/700  Akitsu Maru 1/700

 

Completed builds :  Caldercraft Brig Badger   Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle  Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700   Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350

F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72  Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48  Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48  Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72

Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya  Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16

 

Terminated build:  HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn)  

 

On the shelf:  Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits

 

Future potential scratch builds:  HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)

Posted

Thank you Mike, always welcome.

 

And a smal update

"Nails" are applied before painting, needles have been used for this. After being placed in the hull they are flattened with a file.
I have not installed treenails here. Because the planks of the upper part of the hull are normally thinner and lighter than the planks of the lower hull.
 

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And now we can continue with painting

Thanks for following

 

Posted

Patrick,

 

Been away from all of my favorite shipyards (as well as mine) for the last couple of weeks. Nice updates. I like the dark brown for the hull sides. I assume that you will keep the "look" somewhat weathered, with light sanding? Gives the wood a more realistic look IMO.

 

Regards,

 

Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

Posted

Welcome back Michael

 

Yep, there will be a little bit of weathering on the colors. But certainly not too much.

 

 

 

Posted

Hi. I just rediscovered this forum looking for opinions on the different Golden Hind models available.

I had a period 20 years ago when I was reading the volumes of the Naval Records Society. I remember a section on the Golden Hind saying clearly that the ship had been made in France. Possibly in Laughton or Corbett. Now I do not know if scholarship in the last hundred years has changed that appreciation.  The most reliable image of the ship was its apparition in an XVIIth century view of London, even when it was a birds view.

Posted

Welcome  midelburgo,

 

There is very little known about this ship. Newly built in England or rebuilt in England or anywhere else.

If you ever built this ship , There were then certain rules then to build a ship. But there is a fair amount of margin in shape, colors and other things.
No one can say that you are wrong, But you can never prove that you are building it correctly (my opinion)

 

Painting the upper part of the hull.

Of course no one knows how this ship was painted. And it is quite possible that it has been repainted during the 3-year journey.

So I go for shapes and colors that were common at the time.

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Shapes??
Choice enough : arrows, triangles,  lines, diamonds, round shapes

Colors ??
Apparently "all colors of the rainbow" (belgian saying) were used and on some ships there are simply no colors


I am going for white and green arrows
Presumably there will be white and red later on the part on the poopdeck.


First there is painted white

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First try.
Reasonable, but not really good.

so, remove and redo

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Second try. 
Masking tape is attached to the non-adhesive side of a sticker. The shapes of arrows are drawn and cut out.

The pictures speak for themselves.

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I am satisfied with it. This method takes a lot of time but the result is quite ok.

Now further painting on the for and after castle.

 

As always, thanks for following

Posted
17 hours ago, G.L. said:

Patrick,

 

Is looking nice. What kind of paint do you use for the white?

 

G.L.

Thanks GL

 

Tamiya matt white ( XF2 ) thinned with isopropylalcohol is used.

 

Posted

Small update,

 

Today I continued with painting. All the green arrows are done.
I also made an attempt to draw a pelican on the stern. He looks pretty good but he is not ready yet.

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Thanks for following

Posted

Nice update - pelican looks great. Also your green work with no "bleed through" splotches is excellent

 

Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

Posted (edited)

Nice work on the arrows. Very precise.

 

You might like to do a picture of "a pelican in her piety" (do a google image search). It was believed in the middle ages that pelicans stabbed themselves in the breast and fed their chicks on their own life's blood - this being a reference to the sacrifice of Christ. See http://www.sacred-texts.com/lcr/fsca/fsca41.htm

 

And a lot of pelicans shown "in their piety" don't look much like pelicans at all . . . Whether people in England (particularly mariners) in Queen Elizabeth I's time knew what a pelican looked like is another question.

 

Steven

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Posted

Steven,

 

Thanks for the positive comment and the info
A pelican in this way is indeed more imposing and shows more aggressive.

 

But,
My drawing skills are insufficient to draw this.
I think it will stay with an ordinary pelican.

Posted
17 minutes ago, canoe21 said:

Hello Patrick

 

Great job on your painting and also on your Stern Pelican Decoration, a very new and also a great approach to make your ship one of a kind, Well Done,    ENJOY.

 

Regards   Lawrence

Thanks Lawrence,

My way of building and finishing one does not see much indeed.
No one knows what this ship has ever looked like. So there is a fair amount of freedom in the painting of this ship

Posted

Painting is done.
On this part of the hull the colors have become white and red.
After painting a light dry brushing with white and reddish brown was applied.

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Sometimes it did not go according to plan...

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The pelican is also further painted.

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Now we can start with the floor of the balcony. And make windows and a door.

 

Thanks for following, index see post 1.

 

Posted

Thanks Christian.

This was the most complex "camouflage scheme" I have ever tried to paint.

Long live panzer gray, olive green and other sand colors in my military modeling ;)

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