HMB Endeavour by cobra1951 - OcCre - 1:54

[foxy]

That's a nice clean line there Bob mate.

 

How did you do your planking marks, down one side or what.

 

The Nail look make this look so good.

 

Frank 

[cobra1951]

Thanks Frank

Yes just marked the planks down 1 side and 1 end using a Sharpie

[cobra1951]

Started On some of the hatchways

The kit supplies Lime wood for this and says to paint it a Walnut colour

Forecastle deck hatch

 

Hatch painted and glued in place on the deck

 

For some unknown reason the manual says to make up a ladder then cut it short, Then glue a block onto the lower deck and fit the ladder on to this, as show in the following photo

 

This seemed to be ridiculous because the ladder will reach the deck anyway, so i left it the correct length and fitted it directly on to the deck and omitted the block

 

[cog]

But, Bob, what have you done now the ship's midgets can escape from the lower hull deck :D

 

Yes it did look (a bit) silly, i.e. the block underneath the ladder

Edited October 1, 2016 by cog

[cobra1951]

Hehe Thanks Carl

[foxy]

Nice work Bob on the ladder.

 

The orlop looks the better for it.

 

Frank 

[cobra1951]

Thanks Frank

It won't even be seen once the hull is planked, except the very top of it in the hatchway, but i decided if it's going to be there it's going to be a whole ladder not half a ladder and a block of waste wood

Edited October 3, 2016 by Cobr@

[donrobinson]

Good choice with the ladder Bob, I wonder why they would suggest that, makes no sense

[cobra1951]

Good choice with the ladder Bob, I wonder why they would suggest that, makes no sense

 

Thanks Don

When i saw it that was my first thought too, with a few expletives in there

[cobra1951]

G'day Bob, going great I like the planking, nice and crisp,

 

  best regards John.

 

Thanks John

[cobra1951]

The manual said to construct the main hatch in place in the deck but i thought it was easier to do it on my workspace

Underneath view shows the ridge that fits in the hole on the deck

 

Main hatch finished with blackened eye bolts an rings fitted

 

Main hatch in place in the deck

 

 

[Elijah]

Nice job with that hatch! What do you use to blacken the parts?

[cobra1951]

Thanks Elijah

I use Krick brass blackener on my brass work.

I tried Birchwood Casey blackener but with no success. Having said that it may well have been the nasty brass I tried it on as some are better quality.

[Sirius]

Great work Bob,

 

If you don't mind, I will be following along.

[cobra1951]

Thank you Sirius

You are very welcome to follow along

[EJ_L]

That hatch is excellent. I may have to give that blackening agent a try.

[Sirius]

Thanks Elijah

I use Krick brass blackener on my brass work.

I tried Birchwood Casey blackener but with no success. Having said that it may well have been the nasty brass I tried it on as some are better quality.

With my AL San Francisco cross section kit, I tried to blacken the brass (supposedly) cannon with Birchwood Casey's Perma Blue and didn't work.

However, it succeeded with the steel cannonballs.

[cobra1951]

That hatch is excellent. I may have to give that blackening agent a try.

 

Thanks EJ

The Krick stuff works best if the solution is 50/50 agent to water and it is warm. I put whatever i am blackening in a plastic container and put just enough in to cover it then i float the container in a bowl etc filled with boiling water and keep topping the boiling water up periodically until the desired colour is acheived

[cobra1951]

With my AL San Francisco cross section kit, I tried to blacken the brass (supposedly) cannon with Birchwood Casey's Perma Blue and didn't work.

However, it succeeded with the steel cannonballs.

 

Brass is very difficult to blacken properly compared to other metals, and the Birchwood Casey stuff is mainly designed for blackening metal gun parts.

Others however have had great success with it

[cobra1951]

Many thanks for all the comments and likes they are very much appreciated :)

 

Small update

I have fitted the end deck finishing planks and the framing around the rudder hatch

Note the free dog hair supplied with the main hatch cover

 

 

[foxy]

Not sure on those hatch covers, prefer the grating type, but it looks effective against the weather.

 

Nice work Bob..

 

frank 

[cog]

Nice touch, the dog's rope or is it one of the cat's tails ... a bit early to get that out of the red baize bag ...

 

I've always wondered, the planks on that main hatch cover must have been like beams if you need eyebolts like that on them to lift them ... what's the 1:1 size of them?

[jud]

Probably the iron on those Hatch Boards is over scale, also every hatch board I have seen had the lifting rings recessed when not in use. Hatch Boards were used to seal up an opening in the deck from the elements and were usually covered with a water proofed hatch cover made of canvas. There should be provisions for a ring or Battens and wedges around these types of hatches, unless it is a fish hold and water getting in did not mater. Grates were used for ventilation and warships using black powder needed a lot of ventilation, merchant ships wanted water tight spaces below decks to protect their cargo, hence the differences in covers.

jud 

[cobra1951]

Nice touch, the dog's rope or is it one of the cat's tails ... a bit early to get that out of the red baize bag ...

 

I've always wondered, the planks on that main hatch cover must have been like beams if you need eyebolts like that on them to lift them ... what's the 1:1 size of them?

 

Probably the iron on those Hatch Boards is over scale, also every hatch board I have seen had the lifting rings recessed when not in use. Hatch Boards were used to seal up an opening in the deck from the elements and were usually covered with a water proofed hatch cover made of canvas. There should be provisions for a ring or Battens and wedges around these types of hatches, unless it is a fish hold and water getting in did not mater. Grates were used for ventilation and warships using black powder needed a lot of ventilation, merchant ships wanted water tight spaces below decks to protect their cargo, hence the differences in covers.

jud 

 

Thanks for the comments guys

I agree they are oversize, but i don't really care i am building it OOB just for the fun of it. :)

[cog]

The coverings I know from the barges on the IJssel and the Rhine. However, those don't have the rings, and look way lighter than the impression I get here. I know contemporary materials are lighter, and we can do much more with the power tools available to us, but it struck me to see it this heavy

[cobra1951]

Not sure on those hatch covers, prefer the grating type, but it looks effective against the weather.

 

Nice work Bob..

 

frank 

 

Thanks Frank

[cobra1951]

The coverings I know from the barges on the IJssel and the Rhine. However, those don't have the rings, and look way lighter than the impression I get here. I know contemporary materials are lighter, and we can do much more with the power tools available to us, but it struck me to see it this heavy

 

The crew could probably have lifted them without rings as they are only planks over the hatchway to cover it. How accurate it is i do not know but i am just building it as the manual states with hardly any modifications. Historical accuracy is not that important to me

Edited October 3, 2016 by Cobr@

[innkeeper]

Hi Cobra

Just a quick hi. I was born in Liverpool and lived there till i was 20 so a Scouscer my self. Been looking at and going to get a kit of the Endeavour myself. So will be keeping an eye on your log. Can I just ask you said the hatchers should be painted Walnut colour. Why could you not just make them out of Walnut?

 

rob

[cobra1951]

Hi Rob

               I could easily make them out of walnut but i don't want to be replacing all the wood in the kit (been there and done that) some times you replace it and the stuff that arrives in the post needs replacing too and you can easily double the price of the kit that way.

Occre kits are pretty cheap compared to others so i don't mind too much making bits from Lime and then painting them Walnut colour

The Occre Endeavour is cheaper than the other Endeavours but it is larger and has the sails included so a bit of painting is ok

Edited October 3, 2016 by Cobr@

[EJ_L]

I too get the stray dog hairs on my work. Found one glued to a port lid the other night. Must have gotten right in there when I was installing and I overlooked it. I don't mind those as much as when I see one of mine and I start feeling feeling for that receding hairline that runs in my family.   

 

As too the hatch covers, I would think that they would be rather heavy duty in order to both stay as water tight as possible and not to easily come unseated in rough seas. I could easily see two people having to lift them up and out of the way. Large rings would be a benefit here so that a sailor could get both hands into the ring to lift it.

 

Either way, hatch looks great!