Tigersteve Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share #31 Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) Thanks for the advice. Below is the set of paper templates I had made. That basswood is tricky. Maybe notching the segments before I glue might work better. I think the extra glue should help too. Steve Edited November 17, 2016 by Tigersteve Jack12477, Ryland Craze, Erik W and 2 others 5 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share #32 Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) Platforms are done. Nailheads are not as crisp as I wanted but they'll have to do. I glued the edges of the strips where the notches would be. Thank you Erik for the file recommendation. Huge help! Risers are next. Steve Edited November 25, 2016 by Tigersteve Nikiforos, Dubz, GuntherMT and 6 others 9 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted November 25, 2016 Share #33 Posted November 25, 2016 Steve, the support strips under made a huge difference. Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted November 26, 2016 Author Share #34 Posted November 26, 2016 I've been back and forth about this all day. I'm not really happy with the nailhead effect I was going for. They seem out of scale to me and definitely not as clean as should be. I have taken off the platforms and sanded the ink off and done the same with the floorboards. I will re-stain and re-glue. Definitely been getting good practice while working on this kit! I know I wouldn't have been happy if I left it the way it was. I will post a picture when this is remedied. Steve Nikiforos, Ryland Craze, MikeB4 and 1 other 4 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted November 26, 2016 Share #35 Posted November 26, 2016 Steve, I think it's always good to go with your gut feeling on the urge to redo things. Part of the learning curve is attempting an idea, and then taking it in a different direction if you aren't happy with the results. Also, glad my advice with the files helped you! Erik Tigersteve, Ryland Craze, Nikiforos and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted November 26, 2016 Share #36 Posted November 26, 2016 beautiful work Steve, Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted November 26, 2016 Share #37 Posted November 26, 2016 Applied the freezes and moulding strip below. I advise that you apply the moulding strips first as it was tricky to keep the freezes pristine. I applied one coat natural stain to the moulding the night before. I left the transom freeze off. I thought the model looked better without. At least I think mine does. Painting the cap rail is next. Steve Steve, your "caulking" of the hull plank edges prior to mounting pays off... , I like the effect very much Nils Tigersteve 1 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted November 26, 2016 Author Share #38 Posted November 26, 2016 Thank you everyone! I'm feeling much better about this... Steve Nikiforos, jct, Fright and 6 others 9 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted November 26, 2016 Share #39 Posted November 26, 2016 Lovely work!!! Tigersteve 1 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryland Craze Posted November 27, 2016 Share #40 Posted November 27, 2016 I like your latest revision. Your Longboat has a very clean look to it. Tigersteve 1 Quote Ryland Member - Hampton Roads Ship Model Society - Ship Model Society of New Jersey - Nautical Research Guild Current Build - Armed Virginia Sloop, 18th Century Longboat Completed Build - Medway Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share #41 Posted November 27, 2016 Thank you for the kind words. They are a great motivator for me. Trying to keep it as clean as possible without going nuts. Although it's easier said than done. This kit looks simple but it's extremely challenging as you know. I look forward to sharing more progress. I'm taking it slow. Life really slows the build down. Steve Erik W, MikeB4 and Ryland Craze 3 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share #42 Posted November 30, 2016 Risers installed. Another tricky install. They are as symmetrical as I could get them. No grooves. Wasted too much wood. I will try on the thwarts. Steve GuntherMT, Erik W, Tadeusz43 and 4 others 7 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted November 30, 2016 Share #43 Posted November 30, 2016 Steve, My risers wound up not having any grooves either. I scribed the grooves into them, but the kit supplied wood was of such poor quality that when I stained them the grooves disappeared!! Getting the risers shaped properly and glued in the correct place was one of the more difficult parts of the whole build! Yours came out well. It looks good. Erik Tigersteve 1 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share #44 Posted November 30, 2016 Thanks Erik. I guess we'll see how correct they are when I install the thwarts! The grooves were working out ok but not as neat as I wanted. Then I was running out of that size strip. Decided it wasn't worth the effort. Steve Erik W 1 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karleop Posted November 30, 2016 Share #45 Posted November 30, 2016 Hola Tigersteve: To be your first model it is outstanding. Felicidades!!! Saludos, Karl Tigersteve and Ryland Craze 2 Quote Finished Models (Gallery): Pandora (Constructo), HMS Endeavour (AL), San FranciscoII (AL), Fishing boat (scratch), Vasa (Billing Boats) Construction logs: Vasa (Billing Boats) Pride of Baltimore II (M. Shipways) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share #46 Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) Installed the front face of the locker. It's a little less than 1/16" thick. I was out of 1/32" sheet stock from the kit (used it all for the cap rail). It will be covered anyway with the lid. Cut and shaped all the thwarts with the exception of the one that will accept the mast. Left out the grooves. I did a set of thwarts with them but it didn't add much. Boxwood would have looked better with the grooves. This was another tricky production. Installation was easy after they were shaped. Do not doubt- this is an advanced kit for a reason! Steve Edited December 3, 2016 by Tigersteve Jack12477, GuntherMT, jwvolz and 7 others 10 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted December 3, 2016 Share #47 Posted December 3, 2016 Looks very crisp. Tigersteve 1 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share #48 Posted December 11, 2016 I've been working on shaping the thwart that will accept the mast. Cockpit seats are stained and installed. Here's some photos, which also include the first coat of paint on the metal work: lift rings and metal for the mast braces. Wow- these parts are small! Steve GuntherMT, Cathead, Ryland Craze and 3 others 6 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted December 11, 2016 Share #49 Posted December 11, 2016 Steve Yes, those details are small but also a great training in patience. Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share #50 Posted December 17, 2016 Some more progress on the metal work. Lift rings and thwart accepting the mast installed. The locker lid is complete and the mast step is also installed. The locker hinges are next. I think she is getting there! Steve Cathead, Nikiforos, Jack12477 and 8 others 11 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted December 18, 2016 Share #51 Posted December 18, 2016 Steve, You are getting close to the fun part. The rigging. Is Christmas your deadline? Tigersteve 1 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share #52 Posted December 18, 2016 Thanks everyone for your support. Haha- I know that riggging will pose a whole new set of challenges so I will not be finished soon. Also, I have intentions of displaying the Pinnace with this boat so I want to complete all aspects of this build except the rigging and come back to it when the Pinnace is complete. I'm going to have to decide if it will make sense to display these two together. Steve Fright and Ryland Craze 2 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted December 18, 2016 Share #53 Posted December 18, 2016 Steve, Your longboat is looking really sharp and clean. Nice work! Erik Tigersteve 1 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share #54 Posted December 18, 2016 Thanks Erik! Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share #55 Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) I really thought it would be smooth sailing from here until the rigging started. I was wrong. I sanded all of the laser cut knees. When I removed and dry fitted the knee that goes at the bow I discovered that the my cap rail shape (inboard) did not match shape of the knee that is supposed to go there. I spent some time scratch building this particular knee. Not successful yet. It will take a little time. Sorry no photos of the failure. Needed to post my frustration. Merry Christmas in the meantime! Next post after all is resolved and knees are painted and installed. Locker hinges should be complete by then also. Steve Edited December 22, 2016 by Tigersteve Fright and Cathead 2 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share #56 Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) It's been slow going but lots of progress. All knees were shaped, painted, and installed. The one at the bow was most difficult. These parts seem to get smaller and smaller! Locker hinges are installed. I painted the brass strips black and used the eye hooks as hinges. I left those unpainted for contrast. Oar locks and windlass are next! Steve Edited December 28, 2016 by Tigersteve Erik W, Tadeusz43, Ryland Craze and 6 others 9 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6ohiocav Posted December 28, 2016 Share #57 Posted December 28, 2016 Steve, A tip of the hat to you. Your longboat is exceptional. I will soon have to build three of these, albeit in 1/64 scale and hope they look half as good as yours. Happy Holidays. Quote Darrell Completed build - US Brig. Niagara http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13562-us-brig-niagara-by-6ohiocav-model-shipways-scale-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share #58 Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) Much appreciated. Thank you. I'm just trying to follow the footsteps of some of the folks who have done a great job building her. From seeing your work I think your boats will turn out great. I can't imagine doing this at a smaller scale. This boat is only 6 1/2 inches! Steve Edited December 28, 2016 by Tigersteve Ryland Craze, Fright and Karleop 3 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6ohiocav Posted December 29, 2016 Share #59 Posted December 29, 2016 Ughh. Mine will be less than half the size. Thinking about scratch building them using the method in your design. I'll keep you posted. Tigersteve 1 Quote Darrell Completed build - US Brig. Niagara http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13562-us-brig-niagara-by-6ohiocav-model-shipways-scale-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share #60 Posted December 29, 2016 I'm curious what you will do with the "bread and butter" boats that come with the kit. Scratch building them will prob take a while although so will the other method. Looking forward to what you do with them. Steve Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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