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Posted

Bravo Dave, nice work on the frames my friend.

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

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Posted

Thanks Dave, yup, all's well but very busy with other projects.

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

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Posted (edited)

Back to work....

I did not realize it has been six weeks since my last posting.  Time really flies when you're having fun.
Reason being, my normal ship yard time has been disrupted with a fund raising project I've been working on for my favorite charity.... Hope For The Warriors.
I did, however, manage to get in a few licks along the way....

The spar decking progress is now completed, with the port side cut-away allowing a view of the gun deck details.... also leaving the deck above the Captains great room completely cut away....

Note, I have not stained the new planking yet, and the masts are dry fitted at this point.

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Also note, the openings for the companionways have been rough cut and the fife rails are represented by paper templates.

Long way to go........

 

Edited by SawdustDave

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Posted

Gun port lids....

Man!  After a dozen models over the years, this is the toughest gun port lids I've ever run across.
Obviously, the split lids simply double the task.  Not only the cutting and shaping and painting and hinging of both lids, but also drilling the two port holes in the top lids, and fitting the tricky split cords.
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Then, there's the little arched "carving" above each gun port opening (seen below)....

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Posted

That's a lot of work on those gun port lids Dave but wow, they look super nice. I like the idea of leaving some areas exposed for viewing, why go through all the trouble putting the details in and then and the then closing it off.

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

Posted
9 hours ago, Piet said:

That's a lot of work on those gun port lids Dave but wow, they look super nice. I like the idea of leaving some areas exposed for viewing, why go through all the trouble putting the details in and then and the then closing it off.

 

Cheers,

Feel the same way about leaving the cut away Piet.
Thanks for the visit.

Dave

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Posted

Gun Port Lids - Starboard side finished.....
We can finally return to spar deck fixtures.  After applying stain to the new decking, I expect I'll begin with fife rails before I take on that beautiful steering wheel....

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Posted

She is looking great Dave with some very nice detail, you can be justifiably proud of your efforts mate.

 

cheers

 

Pat

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

Posted

I just got back from Florida having attended the NRG Convention in St. Petersburg and then a week long visit with Mom on the other side of the state in Southern Florida, so I'm just catching up. That was a nice job with the gun ports. My only fear is that they have a tendency to get knocked off while manipulating the model during the build process. At least I had that problem with my Rattlesnake build. I like the cut out as well. I did the same type of thing with the "Ratlter."  So take care and handle her gingerly from now on. She looks great.

Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

Thanks Jon.... So glad to see you dropping in.
You're right about the lids, and I gave it a lot of thought and decided to add them now, realizing I may have to re-glue a few of them that get bumped out of place while working around them.  Actually,the lids are surprisingly sturdy the way I mounted them.

The cutaway sections of the spar deck.... I can't tell you how many different configurations I went through in my mind and on paper.  My personal favorite, of all the ships I have build over the years, is the Confederacy, which has a similar cutaway.  I always wished the Captains quarters was more visible.... that is why I have left that area more open on my Connie.  Just wish I could have come up with a way to leave those bilge pumps more visible. 

Cheers

Dave

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Posted

The brass sheaves, how did you make them? It looks like there might be a rope groove on them. Also, I'm curious if you used any pins where the rails meet at right angles with each other, for structural joint strength. I can see the pins for anchoring them to the deck.

 

Jon

Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
​Member: Nautical Research Guild

Posted
1 hour ago, JSGerson said:

The brass sheaves, how did you make them? It looks like there might be a rope groove on them. Also, I'm curious if you used any pins where the rails meet at right angles with each other, for structural joint strength. I can see the pins for anchoring them to the deck.

 

Jon

The brass sheaves.... brass tubing turned on my mini-lathe.  Inserted a tooth pick inside the tubing in order to capture the tiny sheave once I cut through.... and yes there is a rope groove turned into each sheave.

As for the joining of the rails, I used a “half lap” joint.  Pins would have worked just as well.

 

Dave

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Posted

I keep promising myself that I'll buy a mini Lathe (probably a Sherline) but other expenses keep getting in the way, not to mention I have to learn the skills too. I still have time as I won't be needing one for a good while at the rate that I build. I suppose I could have made those sheaves with a Dremel and a file. I got pretty good making cleats that way.

 

Jon

Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
​Member: Nautical Research Guild

Posted

We do learn to make due with what we have, huh Jon.
I did get rid of my big shop floor lathe a couple of years ago since I no linger plan to build custom furniture.
Same skills, just a smaller scale (with a very delicate touch).

Dave

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Posted

Nice job on the fife rails Dave.

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

Posted

The Wheel........

Played around with a few methods to create the two wheels.  Here's what I came up with....

First I glued up a stack of several squares of bass wood, alternating the grain direction.  Then drilled out the center with 1/4" bit and mounted the assembly onto a 1/4" dowel.

Note the circle representing the exact size of the wheel.

(the drawing seen below was created with auto cad)

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Next.... the block is mounted onto the lathe and turned down to the marked circle.  Also note the smaller circle marking.

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Next.... Using a sharpened hook tool, the edges are shaped inside and out.

Finally, the hook tool was used to cut through the two wheels and remove them from the lathe.

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Long way to go, but off to a good start.

Sawdust Dave -

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Posted

ANOTHER FAILED ATTEMPT....
Those who know me have come to expect my mistakes and failed attempts.

Turns out, the bass wood wheels created yesterday on the lathe may look pretty good, but they simply don't stand up to the next step which is marking and tapping the ten holes needed to add the hand grip spindles to the outer circumference. 

 

Back to the drawing board...... maple being my go-to hard wood.
Also, I think I can improve on the system used to turn them.

 

Stay tuned mates.

Dave

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Posted (edited)

MORE BETTER....

The new wheel frames are a great improvement.  Went to maple and used a different method of mounting to the lathe.  The 1/4" bolt with washers and a nut gave me a perfect, more stable spin.... zero wobble.

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The washer and nut allowed much better access to the inner turning.

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And here's a comparison to the finished parts.  Note the much cleaner lines with the maple parts (bottom).

I was also able to come much closer to scale with these new turnings.

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 First testing the ability to tap the outer edges looks pretty good.

Edited by SawdustDave

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Posted

Could you drill those holes while the assembly is still on the lathe, before you part off the wheels? This was one of the most rewarding parts to make for me. Have fun with it.

Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, usedtosail said:

Could you drill those holes while the assembly is still on the lathe, before you part off the wheels? This was one of the most rewarding parts to make for me. Have fun with it.

Possibly Tom, but I have a jig in mind that will insure precision.

You're right.... this is really a fun fixture.  And then there's the fact that I have had my hands on that wheel makes it even more special to me personally.

 

BTW.... I just spent an hour studying your scratch wheel build.... WOW!
What a beautiful job!

 

Dave

Edited by SawdustDave

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Posted

You are right Dave, your maple attempt looks much better. Nice work.

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

Posted (edited)

Wheel Assembly (stage 1)....

As usual, it took me two attempts to work out the technique I had in mind for adding the wheel spokes.... so what's new.

First failed attempt was exactly the same except for tapping out the 10 holes onto the drum and making a pointed tip on each of the spokes.

So here's how it went.....

First:  Drilled a shallow 1/4" hole to hold the drum and the auto cad template.

Second:  Used the auto cad template to carefully mark the ten spoke locations.

Third:  Carefully tapped the ten location holes around the drum.  Note there is an alignment groove turned into both ends of the drum.

Fourth:  Turned the spokes with a pointed tip and glued them in place.

Fifth:  Trimmed the spokes and glued the wheel “rim” in place.

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Note that only one “handle” has been added...just wanted to get one master turning to copy.

And here's a closer view to the mounted rim showing the 40 tree nails simulated with dots of acrylic gold.  (tried actual tree nails but they did not show up well enough).

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Edited by SawdustDave

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Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch)....

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Posted

Excellent work Dave; patience is paying off - that is one nice looking wheel.

 

cheers

 

Pat

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

Posted

Ships Wheel completed......

 

Actually, after viewing this photo, I realized I still must apply a few coats of poly to achieve more of a gloss finish.  Also have not added the rope to the drum.

Other than that, the wheel is fairly done.

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