Meteor 1851 by Jim Lad - Scale 1:96 - Immigrant Ship

[KeithAug]

It’s all looking very smart John. I’m looking forward to seeing the planking - what do you intend using?

[Jim Lad]

Thanks, Keith.  I'm still tossing up between Privet (which is what the framing is) or Cherry Ballart - a dark coloured Australian native timber.  My current thinking is that the Cherry Ballart will be too dark.  I might save that for highlighting details.

 

John

[FriedClams]

On ‎6‎/‎7‎/‎2019 at 6:06 PM, Jim Lad said:

I've been continuing to work slowly on the internal cleaning up of the hull

That's a nice before and after shot John.  Its good to know I'm not the only one who has to go back and tidy up.  She's progressing nicely and looking very fine.

 

Gary 

[Gary Jones]

Jim.

Found your model of the Meteor searching on line .... very impressive. Do you happen to know if this is the same Meteor that departed Liverpool 24 Sept 1858 and arrived in Melbourne 29 Dec 1858. This is the ship and voyage on which my great great grandparents arrived from Wales in Australia.

Cheers, 

Gary Jones

Kyneton, Vic.

[Jim Lad]

Not sure if it's the same ship, Gary, but a search of the shipping section of the newspapers of the day would certainly give you a good clue as these usually listed the name of the ship's Master. As the 'Meteor' I'm building was a Hamburg ship, the Master should have a German name.

 

John

[Piet]

Hello John, very nice work I must say.  Sure hope you are doing well.

 

Cheers,

[Jim Lad]

Thanks, Piet; I'm fine, but I haven't been able to get in to the museum for the past few weeks due to various things coming up on a Monday.  I'm hoping to back in there tomorrow.

 

John

[Kevin]

Just caught with your build,

its amazing how many logs i follow depending on what subject i am doing at the time, 

im looking forward to going to the dark side soon

[Jim Lad]

Got some time back in the museum at last and, in spite of having a lot of visitors stop to talk (school holidays here), I managed to get a bit done.

 

The inside of the hull is looking fairly civilised now and the outside is at least starting to come together.  Perhaps I'll actually finish the frame one day!

 

John

 

 

 

 

 

[wefalck]

A civilised looking emmigrant ship - isn't this a contradiction in terms

[Jim Lad]

Thanks, mate - I'm sure the passengers wouldn't have considered her 'civilised'! 

 

John

[cog]

She wouldn't have come far in this here state ... not much of a transport from the UK to anywhere as yet. Though, very crisp looking frames

[Jim Lad]

Thanks, Carl.

 

John

[Jim Lad]

Another update.  The rough fairing around the stern is now done and the whole hull looks a lot more civilised now.  Next step will be to start on the transom framing and then a total clean up of the outside of the hull before some planking starts.  I really feel that getting to the stage of thinking about the transom framing is a real milestone.  I seem to have been stuck on the main hull framing for ever.

 

John

 

Some photos:

[BANYAN]

Looks good John, nice and true framing.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[G.L.]

Nice work, Jim.

Will you plank the whole hull or will you leave a part of the frames uncovered?

[Jim Lad]

Thanks Pat and GL.  I'm currently planning on leaving the lower part of the hull unplanked, but I'll see how it goes.

 

John

[Jim Lad]

Well, the 'Meteor' finally has a stern!  The major elements of the transom framing are now in place so she's looking like a ship at last.  Still some detail pieces to fit around the transom and then some final fairing up and sanding of the exterior before I give her a bit of planking to firm up the whole structure.

 

It will be a little while until my next update as I won't be in at the museum for the next three weeks.

 

John

 

[cog]

A kickass stern it is. Looks  very spiffy

[Jim Lad]

Thanks Carl - and thanks to all who have hit the 'like' button!

 

John

[Piet]

Very nice looking stern indeed!

 

Cheers,

[popeye the sailor]

hello John..........so good to see how far you've come with the hull frame.  she's look'in really fine...super nice contours to the outer hull.  the stern looks really good too  

[Jim Lad]

Thanks, Denis.  Back at the museum this morning after our break up north.  It might take me a while to get back into what I was doing! 

 

John

[KeithAug]

Hello John

 

Hull looking very good - pity about holidays, they do get in the way.

[Jim Lad]

Well, someone has to take holidays, Keith, so I just try and do my bit.

 

John

 

[cog]

1 hour ago, Jim Lad said:

Well, someone has to take holidays, Keith, so I just try and do my bit.

 

John

 

I do feel for you John, maybe I can help out with that

[Jim Lad]

  

[Jaager]

When the time comes that you do the masts and rigging,

the NRJ  reprinted the following, I think Dutch,  19th century book  in at least 19 parts

 

LE COMTE: PRAKTIKALE ZEEVAARTKUNDE PT. 1
EDSON,MERRITT
NAUTICAL RESEARCH JOURNAL
1974
20
170-182  
MASTING RIGGING 19TH DUTCH

 

The CD for volumes 1-40  should cover it.

It may be more germane  than English or US texts.

 

There is also a reprint that may be still available covering ship building close to your subject in its region.

VORLEGE-BLATTER FUR SCHIFF-BAUER   1835                          
KLAWITTER,GUSTAV D                                              
HORST HAMECHER                              
KASSEL                  
1978
SHIP BUILDING     

 

I grabbed what I could of reprints, when available  figuring that the window was a narrow one -  this being well before PDF.

 

[wefalck]

COMTE, P. LE (1842): Praktikale Zeevaartkunde en theoretische Kennis: voor Handel en Scheepvaart.- 2 vols., text and atlas, VIII+313 p., pl., 118 pl., Amsterdam (G. Hulst van Keulen). https://books.google.fr/books?id=0VEx-qBg6XwC&pg=PA263&lpg=PA263&dq=COMTE,+P.+LE+(1842):+Praktikale+Zeevaartkunde&source=bl&ots=hDIPInI0tP&sig=ACfU3U38cEzogvPXcxkUYXl1R21zrJlt8g&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjI8P_qtNDkAhUIkRQKHclsBOAQ6AEwEnoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=COMTE%2C P. LE (1842)%3A Praktikale Zeevaartkunde&f=false

 

KLAWITTER,  K.G. (1835): Vorlegeblätter für Schiff-Bauer für die Königlichen Schiffbau-Schulen.- 40 p., Berlin (Petsch). https://www.graphikportal.org/gallery/encoded/eJzjYBKS52JLzMmJT0kV4vTOSSzPLClJLZJidvRzUWIuycnWYgAAmNkJCQ**

 

Four more classical German works on the subject:

 

BOBRIK, E. (1848): Handbuch der praktischen Seefahrtskunde, Schiffgebäudekunde, Zurüstungskunde, Manövrierkunde, Ankerkunde, Tafeln zur Schifferkunde.- 604 p. + Tafelband, Leipzig (Nachdruck 1978 bei Horst Hamecher, Kassel).

 

BOBRIK, E. (1848): Vom Tauwerk und seiner Zubereitung zur Taakelasche (aus Handbuch der praktischen Seefahrtskunde.- 24 p., Leipzig (Nachdruck 1975 bei Verlag Egon Heinemann, Norderstedt).

 

STEINHAUS, C.F. (1858): Die Schiffbaukunst in ihrem ganzen Umfange – I. Theil: Die Theorie der Schiffbaukunst, II. Theil: Die Schiffbaukunst in der Praktik.- 158+170 p. + VI+IV pl., Hamburg (P. Salomon & Co., reprint 1977 Horst Hamecher, Kassel).

 

STEINHAUS, C.F. (1869): Die Construction und Bemastung der Segelschiffe.- 137 p., Hamburg (L. Friedrichsen & Co., reprint 1977 Horst Hamecher, Kassel).

 

Unfortunately, I am not aware of any downloads for these important works.

 

[Jim Lad]

Thanks very much for those references.  Looks like I'll have to do a fair bit of translating.

 

John