Hubac's Historian Posted March 26, 2021 #121 Posted March 26, 2021 Haha! Yes - 08/11🌞 EJ_L, mtaylor and FrankWouts 3 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
yancovitch Posted March 26, 2021 #122 Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) oh what a relief it is 😄😄😄......congrats, and i hope she grows up respecting her parents 😀......so great you're back.....that hull...oh...that perfect hull 😀...........been enjoying hubac's work while you were gone...... Edited March 26, 2021 by yancovitch Hubac's Historian, Keith Black, FrankWouts and 2 others 5 Quote
Keith Black Posted March 26, 2021 #123 Posted March 26, 2021 Hello little Julia, welcome to MSW. Pull up a highchair and enjoy yourself.......Marc, what a precious child. EJ_L, FrankWouts and mtaylor 3 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
GrandpaPhil Posted March 27, 2021 #124 Posted March 27, 2021 Congratulations, Marc! FrankWouts, mtaylor, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
mtaylor Posted March 27, 2021 #125 Posted March 27, 2021 Congratulations on the new lady, Marc. EJ_L, FrankWouts and Keith Black 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
EJ_L Posted March 29, 2021 #126 Posted March 29, 2021 Congratulations Marc!! May you, your wife and little Julia have a blessed and happy life! Keith Black, Hubac's Historian, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild
FrankWouts Posted June 18, 2021 #127 Posted June 18, 2021 Hello again Marc and welcome Julia! Congratulations with your beautiful daughter to you Marc and your wife! Now I feel ashamed I haven't checked your build log for so long and only see this until now. Very understandable you weren't active last months/year, as it takes a lot of responsibility caring for such a new beautiful young life. But I hope by now you have enough sleep again in the night :-). I know I had not the first months with all of my three daughters... Take your time and enjoy! Frank. Keith Black, mtaylor and EJ_L 3 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Prior builds on MSW: None
mtdoramike Posted June 24, 2021 #128 Posted June 24, 2021 Beautiful work, I've never seen a build start off quite like this, but it turned out great. EJ_L, FrankWouts, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote
Nek0 Posted August 15, 2021 Author #129 Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) Thank you very much for your messages ! Julia is growing up and will turn 1 year in a few days, it's been a very busy year between the family and the Covid but I could resume the work on the model a few days ago and I ended the third deck panels. I won't give up ! Thank you for your support, I really appreciate it ! Edited August 15, 2021 by Nek0 Theodosius, Ondras71, Ian_Grant and 22 others 19 3 3 Quote
yancovitch Posted August 15, 2021 #130 Posted August 15, 2021 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!! Nek0, FrankWouts, Keith Black and 3 others 6 Quote
mtaylor Posted August 16, 2021 #131 Posted August 16, 2021 Great to see you back and that all is well. Ship is looking great. FrankWouts, Nek0, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Hubac's Historian Posted August 16, 2021 #132 Posted August 16, 2021 It is nice to see you again, Marc. Beautiful work on the port framing! Nek0, EJ_L, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
mtbediz Posted September 5, 2021 #133 Posted September 5, 2021 The best model I have ever seen! Congratulations! FrankWouts, Keith Black, Nek0 and 2 others 5 Quote Mustafa Current Build, USS Constitution 1:76 Scratch https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34741-uss-constitution-by-mtbediz-176/#comment-991858 Finished, HM Cutter Alert 1777. Scratch https://modelshipworld.com/topic/31859-hm-naval-cutter-alert-by-mtbediz-finished-136-scale/#comment-902949 Finished, USF Essex, Scratch https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25954-usf-essex-by-mtbediz-150/ Finished, Santa Maria, Mantua Kit https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23113-santa-maria-by-mtbediz-finished-mantua-150/?tab=comments#comment-683297 Finished, HMS Pickle (Scratch) https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21684-hms-pickle-by-mtbediz-140-finished/?tab=comments#comment-651070 Finished, Santa Maria https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15541-santa-maria-by-mtbediz-handmade-kit-by-a-friend/&do=findComment&comment=483052 Finished, San Francisco II, AL Kit https://modelshipworld.com/topic/17344-san-francisco-ii-by-mtbediz-finished/
EJ_L Posted September 5, 2021 #134 Posted September 5, 2021 Wow! Simply incredible. Keith Black, FrankWouts, md1400cs and 2 others 5 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild
FrankWouts Posted October 28, 2021 #135 Posted October 28, 2021 Très, très belle, formidable et superb! Any chance you might want to share some early drawings with us Marc? Just name your price! EJ_L, mtaylor and Nek0 3 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Prior builds on MSW: None
FrankWouts Posted January 2, 2022 #136 Posted January 2, 2022 Happy New Year Marc! Any updates on your beautiful Soleil Royal project? Nek0, EJ_L, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Prior builds on MSW: None
Nek0 Posted March 15, 2022 Author #137 Posted March 15, 2022 Hello, thank you for your comments ! I'm currently working on the guns so the next update will be in a few weeks I think. I'm not selling/giving my plans yet, I may give them when I have corrected numerous little errors here and there. It has been corrected on the model, and re-drawn partialy but all the corrections on all the plans hasn't been made so currently it's a mess Nonetheless, I just found out that Artesania latina made a Soleil Royal kit, and, in their Youtube add video, they took one of my drawings without asking me if I was ok... Sometimes, people just don't ask...! EJ_L, FrankWouts, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote
Keith Black Posted March 15, 2022 #138 Posted March 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, Nek0 said: I just found out that Artesania latina made a Soleil Royal kit, and, in their Youtube add video, they took one of my drawings without asking me if I was ok... Sometimes, people just don't ask...! Not okay, bad form and all that. EJ_L, mtaylor, Hubac's Historian and 4 others 7 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
Hubac's Historian Posted March 15, 2022 #139 Posted March 15, 2022 I’m excited to see your next update, Marc, and I’m really glad you’re back in the shipyard! EJ_L, FrankWouts, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
yancovitch Posted March 15, 2022 #140 Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) oh oh oh what a relief it is...the constipation was killing me 😁...vc Edited March 16, 2022 by yancovitch Bill Morrison, Nek0, Hubac's Historian and 4 others 7 Quote
Nek0 Posted March 16, 2022 Author #141 Posted March 16, 2022 Thanks, I will try to keep the work continuous now ! Keith Black, EJ_L, FrankWouts and 3 others 6 Quote
Artesania Latina Posted March 23, 2022 #142 Posted March 23, 2022 Dear Marc, Firstly we would like to congratulate you for your superb work in this Soleil Royal model. Please check your messages - we would like to clarify and rectify our mistake regarding the use of your image. Many thanks and best regards from Spain. ccoyle, scrubbyj427, Keith Black and 7 others 10 Quote
Nek0 Posted March 24, 2022 Author #143 Posted March 24, 2022 I confirm that I had very good contact with the Artesania Latina crew and they explained me how they used my drawing without knowing the source. They kindly offered me some tools as a compensation and I would like to publicly thank them for their reaction. I hope to see soon some nice work on their kit on this forum ! Keith Black, mtaylor, FrankWouts and 6 others 9 Quote
Bill Morrison Posted March 24, 2022 #144 Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) On 9/19/2017 at 5:31 PM, moflea said: In two or three words, can you tell me why Tanneron's model is false? I was always fascinated by that model (never saw it in real life though) and to me it looked like a real reference (after all, it's displayed in a naval museum). I do not believe that the Tanneron model is "false". It simply does not represent the first SR. It is much closer to the second ship of that name t was built beginning in 1692. In fact, the Tanneron model is also not complete given that he died while the model was under construction. The infamous "hole in the knee of the head" bears testimony to this fact, as does the alleged lack of deck furniture. Look at the Berain paintings and compare the different details of the decorative carvings. Even the quarter galleries are different in shape and detail. Count the gunports: the first ship carried 110 guns while the second carried 104. The third ship is not in consideration as she was an 80-gun ship. I saw the Tanneron model in Paris and was impressed by his attention to detail in other models, It was clear to me that had he been able to finish the model, it would have been fantastic. Bill Edited March 24, 2022 by Bill Morrison To add details. Hubac's Historian, EJ_L, Keith Black and 2 others 5 Quote
Hubac's Historian Posted March 24, 2022 #145 Posted March 24, 2022 Overall, Bill, I agree with you that Tanneron’s model is more representative of SR2, however, it seems to me that Tanneron was attempting a composite of SR1 and SR2; the most notable features of 1669/70 are three open stern balconies, and fully open quarter galleries. Stylistically, the shape of the QGs is more directly connected to what the shipyards were producing from the 1690s, onward. Keith Black, EJ_L, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
Bill Morrison Posted March 24, 2022 #146 Posted March 24, 2022 I agree to a point. It is possible that some features of the older ship were carried over to the new. But, we simply do not know since plans are lacking. It is likewise possible that you are correct since Tanneron was working somewhat blindly as we are. It makes for a fun discussion. Bill EJ_L, FrankWouts, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote
Bill Morrison Posted March 24, 2022 #147 Posted March 24, 2022 By the way, I counted the gunports on the Tanneron model. The ship is pierced for 104 guns, not 110. Bill Keith Black, FrankWouts, EJ_L and 2 others 5 Quote
Hubac's Historian Posted March 24, 2022 #148 Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) Agreed. I can only guess at what some of Tanneron’s original sources were. I strongly suspect, though, that SR 1670 was very similar in structure to the Monarque of 1668: Perhaps this is SR, 1670: Or, perhaps this is SR 1670: There is no way of knowing until I can obtain better images of these portraits. Edited March 24, 2022 by Hubac's Historian Keith Black, mtaylor, FrankWouts and 3 others 6 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
Bill Morrison Posted March 24, 2022 #149 Posted March 24, 2022 Marc, I agree most emphatically! It is an interesting point that I found perusing Les Vasseaux de Louis XIV that there seemed to be common features among most ships of the line similar to virtually every model of French naval ships of the period. The drawings in that book are quite explicit about many features common to the war ships of the time. Unfortunately, it is written in French. I do not speak French (to my immense sorrow). Bill mtaylor, Hubac's Historian, FrankWouts and 3 others 6 Quote
Bill Morrison Posted March 24, 2022 #150 Posted March 24, 2022 I'm extraordinarily impressed by CRI_CRI's effort with the Saint Phillipe, which also looks in many ways like SR. He would be an excellent person to talk with. Bill FrankWouts, Keith Black, CRI-CRI and 2 others 5 Quote
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