Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75

[NAZGÛL]

I don't know but I would guess they all are.

 

/Matti

Edited May 17, 2014 by NAZGÛL

[popeye the sailor]

all of the kits I've done have been......of course,  there are a few parts that need to be done scratch.   mostly deck fittings though.

 

good to see the masts fitted in place........and the nice weather you have to show her    looking sweet!

[aliluke]

Hi Matti

I'm still following in the background. Amazing work and I really like your outdoor shots. The flag looks superb but everything on your model does too!

[NAZGÛL]

Thanks Popeye and Alistair! I like these kits as it's easy to tweak and scratch it the way you want.

 

Thanks for the likes everyone!

 

/Matti

[NAZGÛL]

Thanks Lawrence, yeah this weekend was beautiful. We had some wood that needed to be cut so I didn't get a lot done with the ship. I finished one more top, the work was faster once I'd figured out how to do it.

 

 

/Matti

[JesseLee]

Question about the mast wrappings. You said paper soaked with CA glue. Do you wrap the paper on the mast & carefully apply the CA? As it soaks in does it spread to the mast where you don't want it?

[NAZGÛL]

Hey JesseLee, look at post 1130 and 1136. If you have more questions let me know.

 

Cheers!

 

 

/Matti

[JesseLee]

Ok, thanks!

[NAZGÛL]

Still hectic at my job but I've done some work on the model.

 

The main mast is now mounted and I also made two more tops. The details on the smaleest one is much reworked to fit and get more in scale. I also noticecd the problem Karl mentioned in his Vasa thread about the squared hole being to small so I widened it a little and will also rework the mizzen mast a little to make it work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

/Matti

[Vivian Galad]

Have I said already that I love the look u gave to this ship? Great work, Matti - Masts just gave her the serious look of a sailing ship.

[NMBROOK]

Great work mate   I love the outdoor shots and the characteristic 'vasa' sloping top on the mainmast.I also aren't getting much build time in as I now have two jobs     .I am plodding away when I get chance.

 

Kind Regards

Nigel

[popeye the sailor]

tops look great.......nice to see her being masted......she's going to be tall

[Mike Y]

It is truly gorgeous! Yep, repeating again but it have its charm and soul!

[pete48]

Hi Matti, Nice work on the masting, it looks fantastic . I realy like the photo looking at the bow. ( nice shot )

 

Best Regards,

Pete

[maggsl_01]

Hi Matti

 

the more I see of your Vasa the more I think you are an artist. The hull is so close to the imagination one has of an old ships hull... like it goes through the harbour next moment... And all the rest too...

 

Best wishes

 

Max

[mobbsie]

Hi Matti,

 

Been a while since I last checked in mate and boy, it's unbelievable, you could almost be looking at a real ship on a slipway.

 

She's looking absolutely superb mate, very well done.

 

Note to me," check in more often"

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

[NAZGÛL]

Thank you so much for your kind comments everyone! Thanks for the like also!

 

 

 

/Matti

[NAZGÛL]

Thanks mate! Sorry for missing out on your reply, life's really hectic at the moment. I haven't had much time for the model but I glued the masts and made som details for the mizzen top.

 

 

/Matti

[md1400cs]

Matti,

 

Your mast platforms are so perfect. Great work. 

 

MIchael

[NAZGÛL]

Cheers Mike! Doing them feels a bit like making the cannons as there are many details to get right.

 

 

/Matti

 

 

Edited June 10, 2014 by NAZGÛL

[TomJonas]

Hello Matti

 

Fellow country-man here, but we've better keep it in English.

I just recently discovered this site. Always been interested in model building, but mostly airplanes. However, I built Corels HMS Unicorn many years ago. And I started with Corel's Wasa and almost built the hull, when I realised that there were too many inaccuracies compared with the real ship, so I lost interest. But now I've retired (pensionär) and will have lot of time. I want to build Wasa, which always fascinated me. And I have an excellent idea: I will rebuild the hull, but with a Billing Boats model. Then I will have a double version of all the rigging stuff and the sculptures: Corel and BB.

Your ship is Amazing! I have spent two days going through your blogg, and really enjoyed it!!

Some questions:

 

1.What colour would the hull of Wasa have been when she freshly built made her short journey? Some fresh tar?? The 1/10 model hull might be inaccurate in colour; it is fresh oak. And the deck too, was that coated with tar??

I saw that you used acrylic paint, which I suppose can be diluted with water. I have made a lot of oil-paintings, and there are watersoluble oilpaint avalable today. But the drying time would be a negative factor.

 

2. What kind of colours did you use for the sculptures? Plastic might be a problem for some types of colour.

 

3. I suppose you have varnished the ship a couple of times. What did you use? Some matt or satin varnish I guess.

[NAZGÛL]

Välkommen! It will be really interesting to see your model, and perhaps it will be a hybrid of the two kits.

 

1.  When googling pictures of newly tarred boats they seem to differ some in shade. I looked at how Batavia and Götheborg looked when they where new. I have toned the colors down as I wanted to make the colors blend, look harmonic and in scale. When painting models (or paintings) I try to get natural colors; in this case I wanted it to look like dried blood, earth, old bone and so on.

 

I use acrylic model paint. Mostly Vallejo. Since you're a swede, the cheap paint at Panduro hobby works well also but they have less variaty of colors though. I'm used to mix my colors to get control and acrylics are perfect for it. I stoped using oil paints long ago as I prefer this look and also how easy and fast it is to work with. A major plus on a big paint job like a polychrome Vasa. All parts are painted in shades and weathered so a short drying time is great.

 

I found the hull to be the most complicated part of the paint job to get right. I used a mixture of stain (bets) to get the nuanse I wanted. Then acrylics. Pastel powder. A coat of flat acrylic varnish to seal the powder once in a while. Also acrylic washes. Gentle sanding was done between the coats.  

 

2. I use the same acrylics as above. No primer is needed imo, you want as few coats as possible to keep the details. (The brass parts is another story though as you need to sand or steel wool it and then use a good primer on it, if you want to paint them with acrylics.)

 

3. I try to avoid varnish to get the look I want. I only used it to make the pastel powder stick and to hide glossy CA glue seams. I use satin flat dilluted acrylic varnish.

 

 

/Matti

Edited June 6, 2014 by NAZGÛL

[TomJonas]

Thanks Matti

 

First of all I've got to find the boat in some Swedish Hobby shop. It seems to be sold out in many shops. And I will have to update my Wasa library with the recent books by Fred Hocker. Landströms book already ordered.

 

How did you manage the forming and bending of the planks in the hull?

This worries me a bit as there is only one layer and thus you have only one chance. And I suppose one can not use woodfilling (spackel), because then it will be problems with  staining (betsning) and painting.

I have seen som device like a tong which is flat on one side and triangular on the other, which could be used forbending/ shaping the planks. Has anyone experience with that? 

 

A lot of treenails and ironbolts were used in building Wasan. Some model builders have tried to get that in the hull too, which looks good. But what would the diameter be of the nailheads? And they should be blackish, not brass 

 

Furthermore I have to make a buildingplace, shifting some heavy desks and tables between rooms. It is very good to have all the stuff on the table ready, so you can work on it now and then. But a cat and a very curious kitten might be problems.

 

After painting in oil I am interested in pigments, Have a small booklet, "Wasa bekänner färg" ("Wasa admits it's colours") which deals with how they revealed the colours. But I suppose it's covered in books. The red colour seems to be mainly hematit (an iron ore), which I think give Falu rödfärg it's colour. I used Allmogerött from Panduro  on my first Corel-hull, and it is very much like your red.

 

I will pester you and everyone with questions whenever I start building.

Edited June 7, 2014 by TomJonas

[NAZGÛL]

Good idea to start with those books, they will be a great help and inspiration for you.

 

After shaping the planks I put them in hot water for a while, then put them in place with pins. The obechi planks are soft and this worked for me. I used wood glue for planking as it gave me plenty of time to adjust. I've seen people building the bb with doubleplanking so you can go that route.

 

Member Michael, md1400cs builds his Corel with nails on the hull so have a look at his build.

 

/Matti

Edited June 8, 2014 by NAZGÛL

[Salty Sea Dog]

Hi Matti!

 

I'm running out of new ways to say how much I like your ship and admire your skills! Whenever you add new details, the overall effect is much greater than the sum of the pieces. Your Wasan is already more captivating to look at than the 1/10th imho. I can't imagine yet how much cooler this will become with ropes. Amazing work!

 

I haven't had any luck finding Landstom's book. Is it only printed in the Swedish language?

 

Best wishes!

[TomJonas]

There are some English editions in AbeBooks.uk, but very expensive.

Two of the Swedish edition of the book were available at a surprisingly moderate price there.

[NAZGÛL]

Hey mate, thank you so much! I've seen aan english version of Landströms book.

 

Still really hectic at work but soon it will calm down and I'll get chanses to be more active again.

 

/Matti

[MarisStella.hr]

NAZGÛL, congratulations, outstanding work for this complex and difficult model ...

 

[TomJonas]

My model is coming soon. Now I have to get some stuff from the Hobby shop (Clas Ohlson) and make a jig for my building. They have a lot of things and I think I have figured out how to make it. I suppose some sort of Dremel-tool will be needed, but I hardly ned that fancy stuff, they have cheaper variants.

I was thinking about the ironbolts in the hull. The brass nails are definitely wrong colour, but the dimension is OK. So the nails would be perfect with the right colour (I hope there are some in the Billing Boats box).
And I found a way to make bronzed or blackened brass in a book about modelshipbuilding. Substances called Brass Black, Brass Brown, Pewter Black and so on could be used. Could be used for all things made of brass, like cannons for example.

I found it here:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1167-using-blacken-it/

 

Then there's the issue of making treenails in the hull and deckplanking. Round toothpicks perhaps?

By the way, are the planks on the deck in an accurate scale? They look a bit wide, but my Eyes could be wrong. And how should the caulking be made? A fairly soft pencil seems to be the easiest way.

I think you stated in a previous post that the planks were put there at random without a regular pattern.

 

Had a look at stains. Ljus valnöt (light walnut) might be a good ground for the hull, perhaps with a coat of diluted grayish Acrylic. And sanding in between. Have to experiment here.

The deck also need some staining, light oak?

 

http://www.herdins.se/sv/betser/herdins-akta-bets__28

Edited June 9, 2014 by TomJonas

[NAZGÛL]

Thanks MarisStella! Tom, to me the deck planks looks ok in size. Buy some different nuanses of stain and mix to get the look you want. I didn't caulk the deck planks but there are much info on this site about methods. I didn't stain the deck as I wanted it to look untreated; I used acrylic washes to make the planks look different to eachother and alive. You have many options in what look you want on your model.

 

 

/Matti