HMS Fly by vths - Victory Models - Scale 1:64 - Second wooden kit build

[vths]

Thank you... I'm seriously considering coppering the hull and from what I've learned, the plates' size should be at this scale 19 x 6 mm, but I'm not sure about the material. There are some self adhesive copper 6mm tapes on the market, but they are a bit pricey and I do not know whether their glue will suffice. Normal copper sheats and cyano would do, but what thickness should I choose that would be ideal to work with (incl. "printing the nails")?

[rdsaplala]

Very nice planking work, Vitus, regarding the coppering, the copper plates provided in the Amati kit are .10mm thick.

[vths]

Thanks. I found out that Amati's are thicker than the self-adhesive foils. I ordered some in 6 mm wide tapes to try them out, as planking goes rather well.

 

 

 

 

 

[vths]

Second planking roughly done, well, the most difficult part of it. Now it is time to finish it, add a few stealers (fortunately not many) and sand and sand and then sand some more. 

 

 

 

Edited August 28, 2013 by vths

[aliluke]

Great planking Vitus. Nice to have you well ahead of me, I can follow and learn!

 

Cheers

Alistair

[vths]

Thank you. That depends, Brian. Either I will copper the hull, or treenail it. In any case those visible planks will be treenailed. I'll probably use something else than actual treenails (toothpicks). Probably a thin and cut injection needle that creates small circles that (using a bit of varnish) look rather good. 

 

An example from a Czech board by klimi (http://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=73264&p=1452414&hilit=jehlu#p1452414)

 

[jastrząb]

I'm impressed. I will use your pics while doing my HMS Pandora. Neat, clean and good-looking. What's the diameter of your treenails? When I have some doubts with my kit, I'll write to you

 

Cheers, Paweł

[ZyXuz]

as usual.. nice and neat! really envy your skills

I'd vote for treenails!

[vths]

Thanks everyone, much appreciated. Paweł, treenails on the deck should be at this scale .4 mm, but that is rather hard to achieve, so mine are about .5 mm. Treenails in the hull planks are bigger. Anyway, the copper tapes just arrived, so now I'm thinking about a way to assemble 46 pins to make a stamp and "nail" the copper sheets with it. Sounds like a piece of cake

 

The copper tapes are very thin (about .03 mm), but once pierced, the marks won't disappear whatever I do, so I'll probably use them. Still, they don't look like they can take damage easily, so I will lay them once the heavy works are done and that will not happen any time soon.

[rdsaplala]

Splendid planking work Vitus, it looks perpect!   

Have you considered just leaving the hull uncoppered? I personally think your planking work looks too beautiful to cover up

[vths]

But, but... that would mean spending 20 bucks for nothing  I still don't know, but there's plenty of time to decide.

[rdsaplala]

Coppering hull= 20 bucks....

Beautifully planked hull not covered by any copper= Priceless

[vths]

I could not resist applying first protective thin layer of semi-matt Nelson varnish after sanding the hull. There are still quite a few details to take care of and the first layer also revealed a few poorly finished spots, but the overall result is good, in my opinion. Looks like I will have to use those copper tapes elsewhere, treenails FTW

 

 

 

 

 

 

[rdsaplala]

Good on you, Vitus, those copper tape will come in handy for other uses, but not this one, beautiful planking work Sir!

[aliluke]

Hi Vitus

Your planking is really great - looks near perfect - if I get it that good I'll .

 

But - it maybe the photos? - it looks very stripped, pale, dark, pale, dark etc. Perhaps pause for a look at the overall effect if it isn't otherwise dressed - copper plates and paint? Could be the photos, could be my taste...

 

Just my thoughts

Alistair

[lamarvalley]

Vitus, I'm with Aldo on this one.... copper plating can be used somewhere else because that planking looks gorgeous. The varied and staggered planks, the colors.... seems a shame to hide it behind something else... of course she's your ship so your decision but you have a beautiful hull there and if it were mine...

[Padeen]

Vitus,

I'm am in awe before your beautifull planking! I hope mine will come half as good. Regarding the coppering, maybe you can copper one side and leave the other natural? Well, wathever you decide, I'm eager to seeing the result.  

[vths]

Thanks guys for the kind words. 

 

Alistair> Yes, the planks' color is different and the varnish only emphasised it, but on photos the contrast is even greater because the reflections are not diffused like before, but much more focused. This is also why there is a big contrast in overall lightness (esp. in the 1st photo) and now it is almost impossible to shoot the hull under artificial light. I will have to use some very fine abrasive material for the final finishing touch and I also plan to add wearing (that is a maybe). Now I chose to apply the first coat only to protect the planks. Well and also because I was curious about the whole look

 

Anyway now I'm not planning coppering the hull anymore, definitely not only on one side. Better watch out for shipworm now.

[ZyXuz]

that's a perfect planking!! 

well done Vitus!

[vths]

Just a small update. I've finished the keel section and those two ugly cables for cabin lighting are now embedded in the keel. I used a part of computer "MOLEX" male connector and the female counterpart will be in the stand. 

 

[ZyXuz]

connection using the keel is really a brilliant idea..

I might 'steal' your idea for my next ship

Anyway, well done!

[vths]

Another small update. Just finished inner planking, painted it red and now I'm doing lining (or whatever that is) inside gunports using ,5mm planks. Quite an easy job that makes the ports look much better, methinks.

 

[jastrząb]

Neatly done. I like the planking...

[rdsaplala]

Neat work on the gunport linings, Vitus.

[texxn5]

Very nice.

[vths]

Finished inner planking, gun ports and the rest of the gun deck planking. I also tried to create the stove, but that did not work out so well (yes, it is the black spot on the deck), so I'm not gonna show the detail of it just yet.

 

 

 

 

[aliluke]

Really great work Vitus.Your planking looks fantastic. I hope to be planking that second layer soon and then we can better track through this model together.

 

Cheers

Alistair

[lamarvalley]

Beautiful planking Vitus. I love the staggered boards with the varied lights and darks. Very very nice great job!

[Blue Ensign]

Very nice work Vitus, and what a wonderful decorative effect you have achieved on the planking.

 

Regards,

 

B.E.

[texxn5]

Your wood finishes have really turned out nice. She's looking good.