Sea Hoss Posted May 17, 2019 #1 Posted May 17, 2019 Began this kit a couple days ago. Had a couple frames and the transom snap during the fairing process but no biggie, pinned and glued them back. Maybe a little too aggressive with the sanding... It seems that it will be a pleasurable little build. It's a nice scale to work with, my first wooden ship kit was MS's 1:48 version, very small! I plan on making some changes to this one, mostly color choices. I aim to make it look like the ship's boat on my Syren model. Also, I may play around with putting sails on this one. I think maybe half set or something like that, we'll see. I began by starting the garboard strake on frame G, seems like it will work out better there. Thanks to Arthur Wayne for the tips and problems to look out for as I move ahead. GrandpaPhil, FriedClams, J11 and 3 others 6 Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted May 17, 2019 #2 Posted May 17, 2019 Hello Sea Hoss, Welcome to the 18th Century Armed Long Boat group 😎 You are moving right along and it looks good. I’ll be following your log with interest. I am curious as to how starting your garboard at bulkhead G will work out as there are 12 strakes above the garboard and they have to fit into the rabbet at the bow. I don’t know if you will have to use drop planks or not. J11 1 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Sea Hoss Posted May 17, 2019 Author #3 Posted May 17, 2019 Hi Dr PS, glad to be in the ALB group... My intentions on planking the hull are this: get the 3 lower and 2 uppers on, measure the gap at it's widest point, then figure how much material to remove from the strakes to fit at the bow. I'll use my small block plane for this, tapering a little from each. Hopefully it will work out well, I've done it this way in the past and seemed to work decently. CDW and J11 2 Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Arthur Wayne Posted May 18, 2019 #4 Posted May 18, 2019 I'm glad to see another one of these models coming together, I look forward to watching your progress. I am equally interested to see what your final thoughts are on this kit versus the USN Picket boat you finished, which turned quite nice. 👍 J11 1 Quote Current Build: Gunboat Philadelphia Completed Build: MS 18th Century Armed Longboat
Sea Hoss Posted June 7, 2019 Author #5 Posted June 7, 2019 So, been slowly doing the hull planking. Ready now for sanding, filling, sanding ,sanding and then some more sanding... J11, JpR62, bruce d and 1 other 4 Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted June 7, 2019 #6 Posted June 7, 2019 Looking good! Yes sanding and sanding and sanding but don’t eat too deeply into your planks. 😎 J11 1 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Sea Hoss Posted June 16, 2019 Author #7 Posted June 16, 2019 Some more work on the Longboat. Sanded down the hull exterior, applied some Liquitex Modeling Paste to the divots and visible cracks, (stuff is hard, made with marble dust). Sanded and faired the interior. Decided to go for a flat and level floorboard layout, I would have built it that way anyways, that is what the cross members are for. Also decided on a granite grey interior below the soon to be painted, red upper section. I thought with all the natural stained parts in there, (thwarts, locker, floor boards and for and aft platforms), it may look interesting to have a little contrast. Next up is the red paint and so on. Altduck, FriedClams, DmitriyMarkov and 7 others 10 Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted June 16, 2019 #8 Posted June 16, 2019 Looks like it’s coming along quite well. I’m curious as to how your decking is going to turn out. It sounds interesting. J11 1 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Arthur Wayne Posted June 16, 2019 #9 Posted June 16, 2019 I'm thinking the same thing, I'm keen to see how this floor turns out. I think the gray and red will compliment the bare wood nicely. I'm curious, how does this model compare to the USN Picket Boat you built? J11 1 Quote Current Build: Gunboat Philadelphia Completed Build: MS 18th Century Armed Longboat
Sea Hoss Posted June 16, 2019 Author #10 Posted June 16, 2019 Yes, that's where the granite grey paint came from, left over from the Picket boat. Although on that I added some black to darken it. I think it will look good all together Arthur. The Picket Boat was a cool build, large enough to get some good detail in there and great for adding some extra details to personalize it a bit! The steam power plant was a cool learning experience, I did quite a bit of researching looking at similar vessels from that time period. It also had the flat deck which sort of gave me the idea to do the same in the longboat. I just looked at the plans and photos of it and said to myself "I would have made the floor flat, better moving around" and since it is my model after all, it shall be flat! I'm planning on doing the cap rail red but the section on the outer hull beneath the cap will be black with a black rub rail. The hull will be white with a thin black waterline stripe. I think it will be good looking! I'm aiming for a copy of the ship's boat on my Syren model. J11 and FriedClams 2 Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Arthur Wayne Posted June 16, 2019 #11 Posted June 16, 2019 Very cool! I painted my oar locks black, having gotten the idea from your Syren model's longboat. I was thinking about going back and painting the top strake black as well, but have decided to leave it red. I think your color scheme is going to look very sharp. J11 and Dwight 2 Quote Current Build: Gunboat Philadelphia Completed Build: MS 18th Century Armed Longboat
Dwight Posted June 16, 2019 #12 Posted June 16, 2019 Very nice , much better than mine. I had to paint the hull as the planking left much to be desired. J11 1 Quote Dwight current build : Fair America by Model Shipways Completed Build : 18th Century Armed Longboat by Model Shipways : Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Under the bench : Syren by Model Shipways ,, Rattlesnake by Model Shipways
Sea Hoss Posted June 18, 2019 Author #13 Posted June 18, 2019 No, we all seem to over criticize our work, I thought the same that yours would be tough to beat! DR PS is also doing a great job! J11 1 Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Sea Hoss Posted July 1, 2019 Author #14 Posted July 1, 2019 More completed... added 1/8 x 1/8 supports for the floor boards. Painted the interior granite gray. Painted the red band on the upper planks. Dry fitted and permanently secured the floor boards. Added coats of Polycrylic Satin and hit with 00 steel wool. I'm not sure if I like the "Barn Red" color. Maybe too dark? I'll consider using "Flag Red" that I also have on hand. I was reading ahead in the instructions and saw where the thwarts will be located. Seems like they will be too high, the crew's feet may well be dangling in the air? I guess I'll have to do some figuring, I think I have a model R.R. "G gauge"(I think that's 1/24 scale) resin figure somewhere, see how that looks. Well, I'll be adding more soon, take care. J11, Ryland Craze, JpR62 and 5 others 8 Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Sea Hoss Posted July 1, 2019 Author #15 Posted July 1, 2019 They got posted in the wrong order? Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Kevin Posted July 1, 2019 #16 Posted July 1, 2019 very nice indeed, love the contrast Sea Hoss and J11 2 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted July 1, 2019 #17 Posted July 1, 2019 Nice mod you have going. I will be following you progress as I am watching how it works out. J11 and Sea Hoss 2 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Arthur Wayne Posted July 1, 2019 #18 Posted July 1, 2019 Looking good, once you put cockpit and stem floors in it will really look cool. Hard to see how dark your barn red really is but if you intend to use the etched brass decorations the darker color will be a better contrast than the red I used. I don't know if the thwarts will be that high, a scale 6' tall human would be 3 inches tall and to my eye looks about right on my build. Keep up the great work! J11 1 Quote Current Build: Gunboat Philadelphia Completed Build: MS 18th Century Armed Longboat
Sea Hoss Posted July 2, 2019 Author #19 Posted July 2, 2019 Thanks for the support and advice guys, hope mine looks at least as good as yours! J11 1 Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Sea Hoss Posted July 10, 2019 Author #20 Posted July 10, 2019 Little more completed, deck framing and templates for the decks... GrandpaPhil, FriedClams, bruce d and 5 others 8 Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Sea Hoss Posted July 12, 2019 Author #21 Posted July 12, 2019 Installed fore and aft decks, the rear deck was a sh*t show! I just didn't plan properly. Had to put in more framing for support, did it in a rush (don't know why I was rushing) and began chasing my tail around to get the additional supports leveled out. But all is well... just the little bug-a-boos that make me say "wish I did this or wish I did that. Bottom line, looks good to me! Time for the riser and thwarts, yee haa... FriedClams, GrandpaPhil, Ryland Craze and 3 others 6 Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Sea Hoss Posted July 12, 2019 Author #22 Posted July 12, 2019 Did I read recently read that the gun mounts on this boat should have more reinforcement below the cap rail? I think they should. I mean" the cap rail shouldn't be the only thing taking the forces from the gun fire, right?" I think this was just an oversight. I will figure something that looks right. Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted July 13, 2019 #23 Posted July 13, 2019 Sea Hoss, I think you are right. I addressed this somewhat on my build. Not sure it is historically correct but from what I can gather, a lot of the armed longboats were retrofitted longboats. If that is so, I think we should have some wiggle room for invention. Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Sea Hoss Posted July 13, 2019 Author #24 Posted July 13, 2019 Ok, it was you I heard it from. Ya, I was looking at it and remembered reading that. Makes sense though. If not for the reinforcement, the guns recoil would probably take the crew out! Good catch Paul... Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted July 13, 2019 #25 Posted July 13, 2019 I can’t take the credit as the idea originated from Chuck in a post to Arthur. Then Arthur directed me to the reference Go to entry #55 and you will see where I got my approach. tkay11 1 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Sea Hoss Posted July 13, 2019 Author #26 Posted July 13, 2019 Of course it was Chuck, the man is a modeling encyclopedia! He helps out a lot of modelers really though...thanks Paul. Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Sea Hoss Posted July 18, 2019 Author #27 Posted July 18, 2019 Some more work to post, put in thwart risers, thwarts and supports, put on mast support and mast foot, roughed in cockpit seats and will finish those up tomorrow I think. bruce d, Ryland Craze, FriedClams and 4 others 7 Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted July 18, 2019 #28 Posted July 18, 2019 Looking teal good 😎 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
Sea Hoss Posted July 23, 2019 Author #29 Posted July 23, 2019 More work done: While waiting for MS to send me the proper thickness basswood sheet to construct the cap rails, I went ahead with the windlass and handles, locker hinges, lift rings, rudder and tiller. I guess now I'll just continue along with the mast, gaff and bowsprit. That should keep me busy for a while... JpR62, bruce d, KurtH and 4 others 7 Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic
Dr PS - Paul Schulze Posted July 24, 2019 #30 Posted July 24, 2019 Lookin good 😎 Quote Paul Cutty Sark, Scientific Models (no build log) 18th Century Armed Longboat, Model Shipways Civil War Coffee Wagon and Limber, Model Shipways side project New Bedford Whaleboat, Model Shipways Civil War Gatling Gun, Model Shipways side project
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