Redshadowrider Posted March 12, 2021 #541 Posted March 12, 2021 Thanks @Overworked724, I should have guessed you did it earlier. Although yours is more complex, we started about the same. I am using T-pins since they work out to be the perfect size, and are made out of stainless steel. I hope I don’t regret not putting an aluminum plate behind them. 🤞 I will add to my thread with pics. I finished the Starboard stamp, and tested using a tack hammer. The first one came out pretty good. Overworked724 1 Quote
niwotwill Posted March 21, 2021 #542 Posted March 21, 2021 Patrick its been a long time since I checked in on your log and you've made great progress. The work you've done since my last time is looking very nice. Overworkeds comment on the front port doors reminded me of something I'd seen on another model. At 1:64 the front doors were curved to sit evenly with the siding and what the modeler had done was to lightly sand them to shape. It wasn't much but looking closely you could see the fit. Stay Well and Stay Safe Will Overworked724 1 Quote Current Build: Erycina 1882 Fishing Trawler by Vanguard Models 1:64 scale Syren by pearwill Model Shipways 1:64 scale On Hold: HM Cutter Cheerful Syren Shipmodel Scratch 1:48 scale 1776 Washington Row Galley scratch scratch from NRG plans #121 1:48 scale Completed Build: Charles W. Morgan by Artesania Latina circa 1988, Lowell Grand Banks Dory 1:24 scale by Model Shipways, Norwegian.Sailing Pram 1:12 scale by Model Shipways, Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 scale by Model Shipways Member Nautical Research Guild
Overworked724 Posted March 23, 2021 Author #543 Posted March 23, 2021 (edited) Time to log Ridiculous Idea #942...or somewhere around that number! Work has been getting in the way of the Syren, no surprise. Better busy than not, I reckon'. I've been noodling over the carronade mounts. And once my mind grabs onto a problem, it's like an irritating terrier which won't let go of a pant leg. So, I decided to try and replace those ridiculous laser cut things they call 'parts' that came with the kit. I know some have used them, but they are so damned small, and the laser char and wood seams are simply too difficult for me to manage. So I went off the beaten path to try and make my own. Got a fairly good result. Use some 3/32" thick, 3/16" wide boxwood strips. Cut a 1/16" groove through the center using my table saw, adjusted to just enough clearance to leave a bit of wood connecting the two sides. Made sure the wooden fin on the bottom of the carronade fit into the slot. Mounted the strips sideways between two pieces of wood. I used some double sided tape to adhere the strip to the side without the slot...reason for this...you'll see later. And drilled in the mounting pin holes. Next, I drilled some 1/16" holes on either side of the mounting pin holes. Then removed from the drill press. The wood without the double sided tape was discarded. The drilled boxwood strip stayed in place on the other support piece of wood via the double sided tape. (Yay!) I used a sanding stick to round off the 'tops' of the mounts. Then I cut them apart - bit by bit - with my mini table saw... Then I test fit one of the carronades with a pin (literally) to see if the thing would work. TaaaDaaa!!! Now I can paint/stain the mounts depending on my mood. Since the mounts have a single flat bottom, I can mount the carronade/mount together on the sled, or separately. I'll probably do separately, so I am sure of good alignment between the carronade sleds. The nice thing about this approach is that the mounts are much easier to handle. I'm not certain if there will be elevation issues due to that 'spare wood' adding some height (~0.3mm) to the mounts, but if there is, the discrepancy should be too small to notice. (He said hopefully) I'll make one more set of mounts for giggles...and move on to the pintles and gudgeons. I feel like I have a clear path to victory for completing my carronade sleds now. Moving on....ever so slooooowly!!!! Copper plates made and waiting. Edited March 24, 2021 by Overworked724 Elijah, Gahm, JpR62 and 4 others 7 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
CPDDET Posted March 23, 2021 #544 Posted March 23, 2021 Your ability to think outside the box always amazes me. I squirrel away your great ideas as I'm sure I will adapt them to my build at some point. Great work as always! Overworked724 1 Quote Current build: NRG Half Hull Previous build: MS Bluenose
abelson Posted March 28, 2021 #545 Posted March 28, 2021 Excellent work on the carronade mounts - very innovative. Overworked724 1 Quote Steven E. Sylven
niwotwill Posted April 1, 2021 #546 Posted April 1, 2021 A very out of the box solution to a difficult problem and it looks as if it will work. WELL DONE Patrick. I had forgotten about the kit parts as I did not use them so I went back to look and you were right UGH!!! I haven't been spending much time on Syren but now that I'm caught up on honey do's i'm starting up again. Yours is looking very good I'm anxious to see the carronades mounted. Stay Well and Stay Safe Will Overworked724 1 Quote Current Build: Erycina 1882 Fishing Trawler by Vanguard Models 1:64 scale Syren by pearwill Model Shipways 1:64 scale On Hold: HM Cutter Cheerful Syren Shipmodel Scratch 1:48 scale 1776 Washington Row Galley scratch scratch from NRG plans #121 1:48 scale Completed Build: Charles W. Morgan by Artesania Latina circa 1988, Lowell Grand Banks Dory 1:24 scale by Model Shipways, Norwegian.Sailing Pram 1:12 scale by Model Shipways, Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 scale by Model Shipways Member Nautical Research Guild
Overworked724 Posted April 14, 2021 Author #547 Posted April 14, 2021 Taking a break due to work obligations and a bad shoulder. Will be making some progress shortly after an MRI...my Syren is sitting here making me feel guilty!!! 🤣 niwotwill 1 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
CPDDET Posted April 14, 2021 #548 Posted April 14, 2021 Sorry to hear about your shoulder. Hope the MRI results show nothing major. Hoisting those beers can be tough. But I can relate to your feelings of guilt. Spring cleaning and yard work has my progress delayed and my Bluenose is feeling neglected. Here's wishing you a quick and complete recovery. Overworked724 1 Quote Current build: NRG Half Hull Previous build: MS Bluenose
Gahm Posted April 14, 2021 #549 Posted April 14, 2021 Your carronade mount is very well done! When I did mine one of the biggest problems was to ensure that the mounted carronade did not end up too high within the gun port. It took me quite a bit of work and redesign to get it somewhere close to the center. Hopefully you will not run into this issue, but better check for it 😉 Thomas WalrusGuy, niwotwill and Overworked724 3 Quote Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864)
Overworked724 Posted April 14, 2021 Author #550 Posted April 14, 2021 MRI results indicate my pitching career may be over. Surgery next month and the 6 weeks in a sling. 😑 Only one thing to do...build as much as I can before the official downtime. 👍🏽 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
CPDDET Posted April 14, 2021 #551 Posted April 14, 2021 Sorry to hear that. But best to take care of business. Wishing you a speedy and full recovery. RichardG, Gahm, Overworked724 and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: NRG Half Hull Previous build: MS Bluenose
abelson Posted April 15, 2021 #552 Posted April 15, 2021 Hope all goes well and that you have a speedy recovery. WalrusGuy and Overworked724 2 Quote Steven E. Sylven
niwotwill Posted April 15, 2021 #553 Posted April 15, 2021 Hope all goes as planned and a good as new in a timely fashion. All my best Stay Well and Stay Safe Will Overworked724 1 Quote Current Build: Erycina 1882 Fishing Trawler by Vanguard Models 1:64 scale Syren by pearwill Model Shipways 1:64 scale On Hold: HM Cutter Cheerful Syren Shipmodel Scratch 1:48 scale 1776 Washington Row Galley scratch scratch from NRG plans #121 1:48 scale Completed Build: Charles W. Morgan by Artesania Latina circa 1988, Lowell Grand Banks Dory 1:24 scale by Model Shipways, Norwegian.Sailing Pram 1:12 scale by Model Shipways, Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 scale by Model Shipways Member Nautical Research Guild
smotyka Posted April 15, 2021 #554 Posted April 15, 2021 Enjoy your log and your creativity. Wishing you a speedy recovery also. Steve Overworked724 1 Quote
Overworked724 Posted May 20, 2021 Author #555 Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) Well...life has certainly gotten in the way these past few months. But...no negative waves, just trying to focus on positives. I'm slowly plunking away at the carronades. Decided to mount the carronade brackets on the sleds and prep for painting. So Assembled the sleds and predrilled the eyebolt holes: You might notice I added a pin (used brass wire) in the front of the sleds to ensure when I glue them on the swivel brackets they are easy to align by setting the pin in the little hole in the swivel bracket. I also slightly sanded the inside edges of the carronade mounts to make the carronade fit a bit better....seems to look ok on my test carronade...but the proof will be in the pudding. Once painted (which is next), the photoetched sled components which are glued to the front of the sled (and also behind the carronade) will completely cover the brass pin (if it's even visible under the paint). I'm using double sided tape with Tamiya masking tape on top to make my 'painting board'. The parts come up easily and I don't need the bottom painted. Getting there... Edited May 20, 2021 by Overworked724 mtbediz, CPDDET, WalrusGuy and 3 others 6 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
niwotwill Posted May 20, 2021 #556 Posted May 20, 2021 Glad to you see you're back at it. Hope life wasn't too bad for you. Mounts look good being made out of wood be sure to post the painted ones. Make it a good day Will Overworked724 1 Quote Current Build: Erycina 1882 Fishing Trawler by Vanguard Models 1:64 scale Syren by pearwill Model Shipways 1:64 scale On Hold: HM Cutter Cheerful Syren Shipmodel Scratch 1:48 scale 1776 Washington Row Galley scratch scratch from NRG plans #121 1:48 scale Completed Build: Charles W. Morgan by Artesania Latina circa 1988, Lowell Grand Banks Dory 1:24 scale by Model Shipways, Norwegian.Sailing Pram 1:12 scale by Model Shipways, Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 scale by Model Shipways Member Nautical Research Guild
lraymo Posted May 20, 2021 #557 Posted May 20, 2021 Beautiful work! Overworked724 1 Quote Current: Model Shipways Phantom Pilot Boat Completed: Norwegian Sailing Pram Lowell Grand Banks Dory
Gahm Posted May 21, 2021 #558 Posted May 21, 2021 Those sleds are looking really good! Thomas Overworked724 1 Quote Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864)
Justin P. Posted May 21, 2021 #559 Posted May 21, 2021 Great idea with the mounts. I hope your recovery goes smoothly, and glad you were able to get in and get the problem sorted out. I know some folks who have been put on long waits with everything happening in the hospitals. Quote Current: US Brig SYREN - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 Completed: HMS TRITON - Cross Section - Scale 1:48 / Gallery Secret Vessel MOREL - Master Korabel - Scale 1:36 / Gallery 18th Century Armed Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:24 / Gallery HMS BOUNTY Launch - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 / Gallery
abelson Posted May 28, 2021 #560 Posted May 28, 2021 Glad you're back. Looking good. Overworked724 1 Quote Steven E. Sylven
Overworked724 Posted June 16, 2021 Author #561 Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) Well...finally got around to finishing the carronade side project using the 3D printed cannon. They aren't perfect, and some are a tad tilted...But I did pretty good for my first attempt at cannons and it was fun working around the little problems. Drilled in the small holes in the elevation screws for the 'handles' and threaded them on a piece of wire. The used a touch of CA to lock each 'screw' as I slid them off and clipped them off the wire...taadaaa...instance handle. Used a little piece of wood to set the pieces in and 'glued' the little round handles on each end followed by painting. I left the upper part unpainted so I could thread the screw into the carronade when I was locking them in place. Got the metal pieces and eyebolts set in...then loaded up the carronades. After that, just touch up painted the tops of the elevation screws and reconsidered leaving the wheels brackets unpainted. The brackets themselves would have been metal, so decided to paint them black...which also gave it a cleaner look. Still glad I made my own wheel assemblies. The proof was in the pudding...using a little jig to ensure my cannon were set at the same depth/angle, as well as how the wheels assemblies were mounted gave a nice appearance. The pins in the front slide right into the little holes in the swivel brackets - so gluing them in later will be a breeze... Moving on to new challenges....! Edited June 16, 2021 by Overworked724 Duanelaker, mtbediz, Gahm and 3 others 6 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
WalrusGuy Posted June 16, 2021 #562 Posted June 16, 2021 The carronades look great, Patrick. I love the look with all of them on the deck! Overworked724 1 Quote Current: USF Confederacy - Model Shipways (Build Log) HMS Pickle - Caldercraft (Build Log) Complete: Virgina 1819 - Artesania Latina (Gallery) U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways (Build Log, Gallery) On the shelf: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways
Gahm Posted June 16, 2021 #563 Posted June 16, 2021 Great carronades! They are very well done! Thomas Overworked724 1 Quote Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864)
Overworked724 Posted June 16, 2021 Author #564 Posted June 16, 2021 Some good news and bad news. Bad news first…I think I need to redo my gun port doors. Sh*t… Good news…my frustration at the doors made look into something I CAN do…so I prepped the lumber for the catheads. Made 2 sets because I don’t trust myself. Will add the sheaves/axles a bit later. x-y tables in a mini-Drill press for the win. 🥸 Gahm and abelson 2 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
Overworked724 Posted June 16, 2021 Author #565 Posted June 16, 2021 8 hours ago, Gahm said: Great carronades! They are very well done! Thomas Thanks, Gahm. Your build is one of my inspirations! Appreciate the kudo. 😁 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
Overworked724 Posted June 16, 2021 Author #566 Posted June 16, 2021 16 hours ago, WalrusGuy said: The carronades look great, Patrick. I love the look with all of them on the deck! Dude. You da man! Always looking back at your build. Great and consistent progress. Gives me hope I might actually finish this thing. 🤣 WalrusGuy 1 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
CPDDET Posted June 16, 2021 #567 Posted June 16, 2021 Excellent craftsmanship, Pat. Looks really nice! Dave Overworked724 1 Quote Current build: NRG Half Hull Previous build: MS Bluenose
Overworked724 Posted June 19, 2021 Author #568 Posted June 19, 2021 Just messing around with the uncut cathead lumber. Figured since I drilled out the holes for the sheaves, might as well drill the axle hole and fit in the Sculpy sheaves. This was identical to how I made the bulkhead sheave blocks. So it was pretty quick work. I also slid in the external sheaves which will be covered by wood framing later. Like I mentioned, I made 2 sets of cathead lumber but can always mak more if I screw up. 😁 Gratuitous pics… Moving on to other distractions. 👍🏽 mtbediz, PRS, CPDDET and 4 others 7 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
Overworked724 Posted June 20, 2021 Author #569 Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) Remade the gunport doors. No pics yet, but glad I did it. The reason being was the gun port doors were about 0.5 to 1mm too narrow…when mounted they would have looked off. When I was dry fitting them to set up the hinges and start the mounting process I noticed the visual disparity and it was pretty obvious. I think it happened because I didn’t consider the loss of wood during the cuts. So…my bad. Live and learn. On a positive note…I’ve got a crap ton of scrap doors to play with to get the technique down for the hinges and rings. Moving on… Edited June 20, 2021 by Overworked724 CPDDET 1 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
Overworked724 Posted June 20, 2021 Author #570 Posted June 20, 2021 So…I could start on my coppering any time. The only thing holding me back…are the pintles and gudgeons. Because here is the thing…I struggled with the Sultana for the same reason. How to mount the things without creating a mess? Even more critical with coppering which can get marred/bruised just by looking crossways at it! But…I have an idea! Finally… So my next side project while I whittle through my plan of attack on my P&G’s will be… STERN cannon of course! 🤣 Moving on…with a plan. Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
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