GeorgeKapas Posted November 24, 2019 Share #1 Posted November 24, 2019 Greetings to everyone! This kit needs no introductions, as it is an old Heller, with many issues. In fact I have made, and/or attempted to kitbash this kit many times in the past. So basically the simple plan is this: repeat all the methods I used on the bomb ketch, with the experience and skill I got from that kit to the Royal Louis. The main issue this kit has, which had to be addressed is the horrendous wood grain that covers the entire side of the ship. It is off scale, and actually shouldn't exist at all. Plus the over the top wales that had to be trimmed down as well. With these out of the way, some modifications are needed on the bow, like re positioning the holes of the anchor lines to a more conventional place, better staircases, knees to hold the upperdecks up etc. Trying to match the model in the Musee de la Marine perfectly is not my intend, chiefly because I don't like its color scheme. Here you can see the first difficult step: The entire ship has been sanded down, and every surface smoothed down. The wales were reduced as well. When planks need to show up, I'll draw them with pencil just like in the Bomb ketch. yvesvidal, docidle, phoscar and 3 others 6 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share #2 Posted November 24, 2019 I used the gun carriages differently, glueing them vertically to created gunboxes behind the gunports. This will also make the gun barrels to align better hexnut, phoscar, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share #3 Posted November 24, 2019 As for the masts and bowsprit some modifications were made, to the yards and the lower masts. coxswain, hexnut, GrandpaPhil and 3 others 6 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share #4 Posted November 24, 2019 I'll post various photos of the built so far the next few days. Marcus.K., docidle, GrandpaPhil and 2 others 5 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share #5 Posted November 25, 2019 The sanding down of the exterior of the hull gave me problems fitting the cheeks on the bow, but especially the galleries which required some bending. Filling was extensive all over the place. FrankWouts, yvesvidal, Marcus.K. and 4 others 7 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxswain Posted November 25, 2019 Share #6 Posted November 25, 2019 You're doing a great job on this George - just like your Sovereign - I tackled these kits in the 60's, but not with the maturity or results you achieve - good to see them getting justice! Steve M FrankWouts and GeorgeKapas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share #7 Posted November 30, 2019 Thank you all. I'll omit all the intermediary steps and jump strait to the present. Took these today: The side ladders are added, the stern railings are new, some work on the bowsprit as well, I added some more details around the top most wale. A thin undercoat is getting applied as well. Jeff T, docidle, coxswain and 4 others 7 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubac's Historian Posted July 8, 2020 Share #8 Posted July 8, 2020 All very impressive, George! I’ll be happy to follow along on this one, as well. FrankWouts 1 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share #9 Posted December 28, 2020 Sorry for the lack of updates. In fact the progress was substantial. I'll do my best to try and be more consistent. The project increased in scope, and along with parallel projects and various other issues this year, I shy from uploading. I made a large sea base for Louis. I did not cut the hull or damage it, in fact I can remove her from the sea and display her properly in seconds. The diorama will show the ship anchored with yards lowered. As for the rest of the ship, yes, I draw and painted every single plank and pin by hand... Self inflicted torture it seems. Jeff T, GrandpaPhil, robdurant and 9 others 11 1 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share #10 Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) I see the forum has seen some changes. Royal Louis was launched in 1759 so she needs to be placed on the next timeframe (1751-1800) Edited December 28, 2020 by GeorgeKapas Hubac's Historian, FrankWouts and EJ_L 3 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubac's Historian Posted December 28, 2020 Share #11 Posted December 28, 2020 Stunning work, George! Your sea is modeled in Plaster of Paris? FrankWouts, GeorgeKapas and EJ_L 3 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ_L Posted December 28, 2020 Share #12 Posted December 28, 2020 The ship is looking beautiful! That water is also amazing! I know from trying to make rivers and lakes on my model railroad that getting color and wave patterns can be a nightmare sometimes but you did it very well. I like how you can remove the ship from the water as well to see the lower hull. Hubac's Historian, FrankWouts and GeorgeKapas 3 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share #13 Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) Thank you. The sea is a mixure of wood glue and soft paper, on a base made out of modeling foamcore board. After drying it was painted with acrylics and glossed with more woodglue. Edited December 28, 2020 by GeorgeKapas FrankWouts, EJ_L and Hubac's Historian 3 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share #14 Posted January 3, 2021 A little bit more work on the deck fitings, gratings rails and columns. Most parts still dry fitted. Also notice the ship is full hull, at the very least I am very pleased with how well she fits in the sea base without noticing it. Saved me the very unpleasant task of cutting her up. Marcus.K., Barbossa, EJ_L and 6 others 8 1 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share #15 Posted January 8, 2021 Progress on the deck. I dont know what to do with the forecastle. The model in Paris has no gratings, just a large empty wooden area with a capstan, which seems odd and in a very high placement for a first rate docidle, FrankWouts, Hubac's Historian and 8 others 10 1 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubac's Historian Posted January 8, 2021 Share #16 Posted January 8, 2021 Hi George - do you have a pic of the Paris model that shows the circumstance you describe? To have a working capstan on the forecastle deck does seem strange to me, as well, for a French ship of any rate or time. My knowledge base is limited, though. Any Boudriot references, anyone? EJ_L, GeorgeKapas and FrankWouts 3 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share #17 Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) Yes, here it is: Many wooden kits of her also copy this, Mamoli has simply added a few gratings around the capstain, but the paris model is like that: Edited January 9, 2021 by GeorgeKapas mikegr, docidle, Marcus.K. and 3 others 6 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ_L Posted January 10, 2021 Share #18 Posted January 10, 2021 My Mamoli kit plans also show one on the forecastle, though it shows it on top of removable hatch covers which does not seem like a good idea as it would be a much weaker place on the deck for something that will be taking on a lot of pressure and torque. My plans also have the smoke funnels from the cook stoves piercing the covers as well. That makes some sense as in theory, the covers could be removed to service the galley easier when in port. I have not yet decided how I will handle the capstan yet. I suppose it could be used for lighter duty lifting such as ship's boats or even the grapples for the anchors to run them up the catheads. It could also be for extra manpower, providing yet another set of push bars to help in turning. Still, the location does seem odd... GeorgeKapas, Hubac's Historian, Keithbrad80 and 1 other 4 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slawomir Posted January 23, 2022 Share #19 Posted January 23, 2022 Did you finish this ship model or still in progress? Look fantastic! FrankWouts and Hubac's Historian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubac's Historian Posted January 24, 2022 Share #20 Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) Hi George - I hope all is well, and I would also love to see an update on this project. One of my favorite things about this model is the way that you represented the nailing, above the waterline; at scale, this just looks fantastic! BTW, in the interim, since last speaking about this subject - I have come to the conclusion that a forecastle capstan is, indeed, likely. I am basing my observation on the allowance made, for such, on the Louis Quinze model at the Musee: The capstan pawls are clearly evident, as is the hole in the deck for the drum. Admittedly, the inclusion of gratings without coamings is curious. Edited January 24, 2022 by Hubac's Historian Slawomir, GrandpaPhil, EJ_L and 2 others 5 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share #21 Posted January 24, 2022 My great thanks Hubac's Historian! Indeed an interesting observation about the capstan. Maybe I'll just leave it as a deck hole, we'll see. I have been busy with modeling and I realized I haven't posted my latest scratchbuilt projects either... There were also many real life problems I had to attent to. More updates coming today! FrankWouts, Hubac's Historian, EJ_L and 2 others 5 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipman Posted January 24, 2022 Share #22 Posted January 24, 2022 Coming along nicely, George. Lovely, crisp work. Looking forward to viewing future posts. GeorgeKapas, Slawomir and FrankWouts 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted January 7 Author Share #23 Posted January 7 Thank you all, and again, I have neglected to post updates in my threads, or even start new threads of completed models! I'll plan to do that now, and perhaps continue with royal louis which is indeed a nice built. Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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