Gremreeper1967 Posted February 25, 2020 Share #1 Posted February 25, 2020 Day three of my build. I'm trying to decide how to hold down the false deck while the glue sets. I have nails ordered but no delivery date as of yet. I will appreciate any tips. JeffT, yvesvidal, hexnut and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted February 25, 2020 Share #2 Posted February 25, 2020 Would rubber bands work or potentially placing weights on the deck? lmagna 1 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted February 25, 2020 Share #3 Posted February 25, 2020 I would think just some small paint bottles strategically placed would do the trick. Rubber bands would tend to warp the shape. 👍 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffT Posted February 25, 2020 Share #4 Posted February 25, 2020 You could pin it also. Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted February 25, 2020 Share #5 Posted February 25, 2020 One thing that I do not like about false decks, and this is an issue in most kits, is that while the deck can be pinned down wherever it lies atop a bulkhead, the little flaps in between the bulkheads have no such substructure; they can still flex, resulting in a slight undulation along the deck edge. The "waviness" might not be readily visible, but it can play havoc with things like properly aligning cannons with their ports. Rubber bands will make that problem worse, because of course they will exert a downward force in exactly the wrong places, i.e. between bulkhead extensions. To properly address the issue, some kind of ledges need to be provided between the bulkheads for the deck to be fixed to. Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremreeper1967 Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share #6 Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) I did try pinning and my thumbs were not happy with me as it is pretty tough to push those pins in the plywood. I'm still thinking about nails but not sure how hard they would be to pull back out. Using weights might be the only reasonable answer. I really appreciate the ideas!!!!! Edited February 25, 2020 by Gremreeper1967 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted February 25, 2020 Share #7 Posted February 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Gremreeper1967 said: I did try pinning and my thumbs were not happy with me as it is pretty tough to push those pins in the plywood. Try push pins -- the kind with the plastic head. And be sure to drill pilot holes to make the job easier and reduce splitting. JeffT and catopower 2 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremreeper1967 Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share #8 Posted February 25, 2020 2 hours ago, ccoyle said: Try push pins -- the kind with the plastic head. And be sure to drill pilot holes to make the job easier and reduce splitting. Push pins are the trick, thanks for the tip. ccoyle and catopower 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Posted February 26, 2020 Share #9 Posted February 26, 2020 Hey mate g'day I built the adventure about 2 years ago and yes I did nails and wood glue enjoy your build cheers snowy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Posted February 26, 2020 Share #10 Posted February 26, 2020 Here was was my 1st ship build she took me about 13 months and I put a thread around the sails and hand sewed the lot as you will see enjoy Cheers snowy yvesvidal and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremreeper1967 Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share #11 Posted February 26, 2020 False deck on, thanks to tips from members yesterday. As soon as my book "Ship Modeling Simplified" by Frank Martini arrives today I will start the planking. GrandpaPhil, Edwardkenway and hexnut 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremreeper1967 Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share #12 Posted February 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Snow said: Here was was my 1st ship build she took me about 13 months and I put a thread around the sails and hand sewed the lot as you will see enjoy Cheers snowy Snowy, I read through your build log, it helps to clarify some of the instructions for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted February 26, 2020 Share #13 Posted February 26, 2020 20 hours ago, Gremreeper1967 said: I did try pinning and my thumbs were not happy with me as it is pretty tough to push those pins in the plywood. I'm still thinking about nails but not sure how hard they would be to pull back out. Using weights might be the only reasonable answer. I really appreciate the ideas!!!!! Search Model Expo for a nail driver. I’ve had one for 30 years. A great tool for pushing small nails. Drilling a small hole prevents splitting. Also, I saw an identical driver at Ace Hardware at about $5 cheaper than Model Expo while doing a quick Google search this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremreeper1967 Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share #14 Posted February 26, 2020 37 minutes ago, ragove said: Search Model Expo for a nail driver. I’ve had one for 30 years. A great tool for pushing small nails. Drilling a small hole prevents splitting. Also, I saw an identical driver at Ace Hardware at about $5 cheaper than Model Expo while doing a quick Google search this morning. Thanks for the heads up ragove. I have a drive for in any day. I used push pins yesterday as was recommended by another member. Papa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremreeper1967 Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share #15 Posted March 2, 2020 I have finally completed the planking of the deck and I must say that I am proud of the how it has turned out. Sanding will start tomorrow. Edwardkenway, GrandpaPhil and hexnut 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremreeper1967 Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share #16 Posted March 6, 2020 Decking is done and started on planking the hull. Im having issues with the lining the hull technique. I understand all of it until it is time to cut the plank. Can this technique be used with planks at 5mm wide? I don't see how the curves can be cut with a narrow plank. GrandpaPhil and hexnut 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremreeper1967 Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share #17 Posted March 8, 2020 Finally got to planking the sides. After watching Chuck's videos I got the hang of it. catopower, GrandpaPhil, hexnut and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremreeper1967 Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share #18 Posted March 8, 2020 First layer of one side done. Ready for sanding. GrandpaPhil, hexnut and Edwardkenway 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted March 8, 2020 Share #19 Posted March 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Gremreeper1967 said: First layer of one side done. I’m not certain if you did or not based on your pictures but I have seen it recommended that you plank both sides at once to minimize the chance of the hull warping. I don’t have enough experience to know how critical that is but it might be something to keep in mind in the future. It’s looking good so far! Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremreeper1967 Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share #20 Posted March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, VTHokiEE said: I’m not certain if you did or not based on your pictures but I have seen it recommended that you plank both sides at once to minimize the chance of the hull warping. I don’t have enough experience to know how critical that is but it might be something to keep in mind in the future. It’s looking good so far! Hull warping never crossed my mind but I will keep it in mind for future builds. Thank you for the tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremreeper1967 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share #21 Posted March 16, 2020 The first layer of planking done. A bit of sanding and starting the second layer. GrandpaPhil and Edwardkenway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremreeper1967 Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share #22 Posted March 17, 2020 Wales are lined and will start planking tomorrow, then bulwarks and then there rest. GrandpaPhil and chris watton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremreeper1967 Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share #23 Posted March 19, 2020 Wales planked, moving up to the bulwarks next. BLACK VIKING, GrandpaPhil and catopower 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Posted March 19, 2020 Share #24 Posted March 19, 2020 Going well Great progress are you going to put sails on her Cheers snowy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremreeper1967 Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share #25 Posted March 19, 2020 7 hours ago, Snow said: Going well Great progress are you going to put sails on her Cheers snowy Snowy, was thinking no sails but the wife said I had to do sails so she gets to make them. catopower 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremreeper1967 Posted April 5, 2020 Author Share #26 Posted April 5, 2020 One side almost completly planked, second about half way. GrandpaPhil and VTHokiEE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Posted April 5, 2020 Share #27 Posted April 5, 2020 Hi mate going great At least now we have more time to build Happy modelling Cheers snowy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardkenway Posted April 5, 2020 Share #28 Posted April 5, 2020 It's looking good, very tidy planking btw!😁👍 VTHokiEE 1 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremreeper1967 Posted April 5, 2020 Author Share #29 Posted April 5, 2020 One side planked and lightly sanded, ready for a coat of clear. Now to finish the other side. VTHokiEE, catopower and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremreeper1967 Posted April 5, 2020 Author Share #30 Posted April 5, 2020 14 hours ago, Snow said: Hi mate going great At least now we have more time to build Happy modelling Cheers snowy Snowy, we started watching our grand daughter since the closed the day care so I don't get to work on it quite as much right now. She is two and I did have her helping me drill some holes the other day. She is going to catch the bus real early, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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