Old Collingwood Posted June 4, 2020 Author Share #181 Posted June 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Egilman said: So, where do you get this "Blue Tack"? that type of soft edge effect I used to do with sponges or elevated stencils...... this method looks so much easier.... Here you go bro, just a quick search in Flea bay. OC. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blu-Tack-Original-Reusable-Adhesive-Bostick-Blue-Tac-Pack-Home-Office-Use-New/141623976949?epid=1759135950&hash=item20f97263f5:g:I8AAAOxy2HFSU-lE popeye the sailor, Canute, Edwardkenway and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share #182 Posted June 5, 2020 Slight update on this - I de - masked the camo, it didn't come out too bad but neded a few areas of gentle re spraying - so it was a case of stage by stage re masking where I dont want over spray to go, I started by covering most of the plane in a plastic bag then ran some lasking tape to trap it - then more tape and Blue Tack to get a smooth line, then I touched up around the tail using Grey first. I will remove the bag and move over the plane doing the same as there are a few areas that need the same work, practice makes perfect they say. OC. Egilman, Canute, Jack12477 and 5 others 8 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 5, 2020 Share #183 Posted June 5, 2020 8 hours ago, Old Collingwood said: Here you go bro, just a quick search in Flea bay. OC. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blu-Tack-Original-Reusable-Adhesive-Bostick-Blue-Tac-Pack-Home-Office-Use-New/141623976949?epid=1759135950&hash=item20f97263f5:g:I8AAAOxy2HFSU-lE Thank you OC, not going to buy it from evilbay uk but at least I know what I'm looking for locally... Thanks.. Edwardkenway, popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share #184 Posted June 5, 2020 Evening all, more work on the Spit - first I stripped off all the masks and examined the camo closely, I decided to use some fine wet and dry and give the whole thing a gentle sand over - I then noticed that I was fading the camo and giving the whole surface a worn appearance with a few areas where the primer is showing - question does it look normal or should I touch up the paintwork, not forgeting I will be shading the panel lines and high lighting, after the decals are on. OC. cog, Canute, popeye the sailor and 6 others 9 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 5, 2020 Share #185 Posted June 5, 2020 The whole point of masking the way you were is to keep a clean demarkation between the different colors but create a fade over effect in scale between the colors. (it's called feather edging) Extremely hard to do with an airbrush alone..... It's only my opinion my friend, but it's too rough an edge, there wouldn't be that much wear and tear on the paint, especially in the areas where it's showing greatest... the edge between the colors would remain feathered but still very clear.... Old Collingwood, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share #186 Posted June 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, Egilman said: The whole point of masking the way you were is to keep a clean demarkation between the different colors but create a fade over effect in scale between the colors. (it's called feather edging) Extremely hard to do with an airbrush alone..... It's only my opinion my friend, but it's too rough an edge, there wouldn't be that much wear and tear on the paint, especially in the areas where it's showing greatest... the edge between the colors would remain feathered but still very clear.... To be honest I was very dissapointed by the finish and without a doubt its down to my less than clinical masking as there are some quite tight turnes using the blue tack - the idea is to roll the it into long worm shapes then press it down onto the fuselage/wings, then cover the part not to be sprayed with either paper or tape, the other difficult thing is the holding the plane without touching areas to be painted - for this I try to attach a stick underneath held in place with lots of tape, then there is the control paroblem using a blast from the Rattle cans, its too fierce and if you go to close to make sure the camo lines are filles - then it can buld up causing runs. In hind sight it would have been better if I could have masked and painted the fuse and wings seperate like I did the mossie as there was more surface area to work from that way. I guess I am Always going to have these issue having to use the methods and equipment I have to use - its a viscious circle with no rememdy. I see people using fine air brushes and I am so jelous and envious and know its whats holding me back - that and not having a man cave or even shed to use use. OC. OC. Edwardkenway, mtaylor, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 5, 2020 Share #187 Posted June 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said: I see people using fine air brushes and I am so jelous and envious and know its whats holding me back - that and not having a man cave or even shed to use use. Oh don't get disheartened brother, I owned an airbrush once, used it once, then put it away. (eventually gave it away) I've been rattle canning ever since.... The thing with rattle can that is most important is distance from what your spraying, right between 10-12 inches..... closer and your concentrating the spray too much, farther and the paint is dissapating/drying before it lands... Also important is spraying past the object your painting, multiple light coats, if you have to wait between coats then wait, comes out better in the end...... one other thing is a steady stroke over the object while spraying not too fast, not too slow, it took me almost 10 years to get the hang of it ........ It's like anything else, the more you do it, the better you will get at it...... while I was learning, one model would have a great finish, another would look blobby in places, it comes with time.... Also, there was a time in my life where the only modeling space I had was the kitchen table.... everything had to be picked up and put away before dinner time or bedtime... Admirals orders...... An airbrush isn't holding you back my friend.... That first packard I built for the wife was built and sprayed on the kitchen table.... You have the talent brother, ease comes with more time and repetition.... I'm sure you know the old saying practice makes perfect, and trust me when I say we have all practiced a bunch to get where we are at..... And learning to rattlecan only was part of that practice.... popeye the sailor, Landlubber Mike, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 5, 2020 Share #188 Posted June 5, 2020 25 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said: the other difficult thing is the holding the plane without touching areas to be painted - for this I try to attach a stick underneath held in place with lots of tape, Ok another question? Why? What I would do is find a decent sized cardboard box that can be knocked down when not being used, use it to place your model on when painting therefore you do not have to touch it when painting and you only have to control the paint not both paint and model at the same time.... when done painting knock the box down flat and slip it into a closet..... Old Collingwood, cog, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share #189 Posted June 5, 2020 I'm just so off the idea of having to have to re mask the whole thing all over again - it feels like a chore (even a head ache) almost dont have the interest tempted to just spray over it in one colour and pretend it was ment that way. Thankfully the seafire is more straight forward just Sky underneath and dark grey ontop. So glad my other builds I brouht ages ago are single colour builds no camo patterning. OC. popeye the sailor, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share #190 Posted June 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Egilman said: Ok another question? Why? What I would do is find a decent sized cardboard box that can be knocked down when not being used, use it to place your model on when painting therefore you do not have to touch it when painting and you only have to control the paint not both paint and model at the same time.... when done painting knock the box down flat and slip it into a closet..... Dont have anything to hand like that - I see how easy it is with painters using those turntables hand free painting, I always seem to rush the painting as I am battling either against wind we get funeled in our patio or dodging showers or insects due to heat. OC. Edwardkenway, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 5, 2020 Share #191 Posted June 5, 2020 Cheer up brother, we've all been in the same boat....... You do beautiful work.... don't let anyone (especially yourself) tell you otherwise.... mtaylor, Old Collingwood, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share #192 Posted June 5, 2020 I'm just a bit fed up at the moment - fed up and angry at the way the world is right now, and my build is supposed to be some light relief to de-stress its actually having the opposite effect making me tense and wound up. I will sort it (probably wont be as first intended) but it will be built - remember the Yellow Subamrine song? nah only joking aint gonna paint her yellow - Pink she will be. OC. Egilman, Edwardkenway, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share #193 Posted June 5, 2020 I could resort to plan num2 - build her as a High Altitude IX in overall Ocean Grey with just the sea grey underneath, that could work and would still be viable and No masking for camo. OC. popeye the sailor, Edwardkenway, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 5, 2020 Share #194 Posted June 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said: I could resort to plan num2 - build her as a High Altitude IX in overall Ocean Grey with just the sea grey underneath, that could work and would still be viable and No masking for camo. OC. Give it time my friend, a course will soon reveal itself.... mtaylor, Edwardkenway, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share #195 Posted June 6, 2020 Anyone used those camo paint masks you can get - any good? OC. popeye the sailor, Edwardkenway, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share #196 Posted June 6, 2020 What I was trying to achieve - deffo not a hard edge sprayed on using rubber masks I believe on the real things. Pic off the net. OC. Canute, Edwardkenway, Egilman and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 6, 2020 Share #197 Posted June 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Old Collingwood said: What I was trying to achieve - deffo not a hard edge sprayed on using rubber masks I believe on the real things. Pic off the net. OC. That was sprayed directly by hand brother, no masks involved on the real thing..... popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted June 6, 2020 Share #198 Posted June 6, 2020 OC - I’m no expert in this, but have you considered using masking fluid? You can buy this in any art supplies store. You basically paint it on and it dries solid. When you’re done, it simply peels off. I’m thinking of this as an alternative to your blue-tac method. Landlubber Mike, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share #199 Posted June 6, 2020 I have put this aside for now same with my Seafire - just need to get my mojo back on those two. In the mean time I have started something else from my old stash - OC. Egilman, mtaylor, Landlubber Mike and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 6, 2020 Share #200 Posted June 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said: I have put this aside for now same with my Seafire - just need to get my mojo back on those two. In the mean time I have started something else from my old stash - OC. It will come brother, with a little time it will come... Somebody around here will do a feathered edge camo job..... It's bound to happen... Landlubber Mike, Edwardkenway, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 6, 2020 Share #201 Posted June 6, 2020 4 hours ago, gjdale said: OC - I’m no expert in this, but have you considered using masking fluid? You can buy this in any art supplies store. You basically paint it on and it dries solid. When you’re done, it simply peels off. I’m thinking of this as an alternative to your blue-tac method. Masking fluid works well for doing hard edge camo, (as long as the base coat of paint adheres well) he's looking for that soft sprayed edge camo effect in the picture..... It's very doable with rattle can, (at least two different ways in my knowledge, probably more of them out there) but the technique is a bit more involved but not much different than his bluetack method. But you do have to see it done then it all falls into place..... Somebody will do one to illustrate the technique.... I'm sure of it... mtaylor, popeye the sailor, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted June 6, 2020 Share #202 Posted June 6, 2020 OC I use a stick up it's nose with a lot of bluetack to hold the plane, in that way I can twist and turn the body and wings any which way I want lmagna, Jack12477, Edwardkenway and 3 others 6 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share #203 Posted June 6, 2020 38 minutes ago, cog said: OC I use a stick up it's nose with a lot of bluetack to hold the plane, in that way I can twist and turn the body and wings any which way I want Thanks Carl, thats certainly something to consider when I come back to her. OC. Canute, Edwardkenway, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted June 11, 2020 Share #204 Posted June 11, 2020 I've heard of blue tack, but never tried it. normally, I use masking tape cut into shapes, or strips cut in curves and such. rattle can will do as well as an airbrush, but knowing the temperment of whatever you use will determine what outcome you'll have. with the tape method, light coats are a must........rattle can must be done in quick passes. it's sometimes good to let 'em sit.....you'll come up with a plan of attack. don't change it just yet Old Collingwood, Egilman, cog and 4 others 7 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share #205 Posted June 11, 2020 5 hours ago, popeye the sailor said: I've heard of blue tack, but never tried it. normally, I use masking tape cut into shapes, or strips cut in curves and such. rattle can will do as well as an airbrush, but knowing the temperment of whatever you use will determine what outcome you'll have. with the tape method, light coats are a must........rattle can must be done in quick passes. it's sometimes good to let 'em sit.....you'll come up with a plan of attack. don't change it just yet Thank you Denis. OC. mtaylor, Canute, Egilman and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share #206 Posted June 13, 2020 Hi all, I have kicked this one off again - I have started to re mask by using Blu Tack but making cleaner curves to cover the rough edges. OC. Edwardkenway, Jack12477, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted June 13, 2020 Share #207 Posted June 13, 2020 Glad to see you haven’t given up on this one OC. Egilman, Jack12477, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share #208 Posted June 13, 2020 1 minute ago, gjdale said: Glad to see you haven’t given up on this one OC. Thank you Grant, No - what I have learned is to be more careful with rolling the Blu Tack into smoother smaller sausage shapes and longer runs, then to be more precise how I place them, also I am pressing them down further than I did before to make sure they have better adhesion with the plane, hopefully this way the lines will be smoother. OC. mtaylor, Egilman, popeye the sailor and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted June 14, 2020 Share #209 Posted June 14, 2020 Check: https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/uk/raf/spitfire2/spitfire-mk-xiv-of-no-91-squadron-at-west-malling/ popeye the sailor, mtaylor, Egilman and 2 others 5 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share #210 Posted June 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, druxey said: Check: https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/uk/raf/spitfire2/spitfire-mk-xiv-of-no-91-squadron-at-west-malling/ Thank you for that - very interesting pic. OC. druxey, popeye the sailor, Egilman and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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