ccoyle Posted March 20, 2020 Share #1 Posted March 20, 2020 Hey, folks! Here's a great tip for making realistic rope coils. This post was originally made by member Peta_V in his excellent build log for Master Korabel's AVOS kit, which you can read here. Enjoy! ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Here is a short guide, how I do coils. I have a jig from the scrap wood with 3 removable pins (2,3,5) and 3 securing points (1,4,6). 1. Secure the line to point 1 and make several loops around pins 2 and 3. I do 4-6 loops so the coils does not look similar. (I start with removed pin 5). Once finished with loops secure the other end to point 4. 2. Unsecure line from point 1 and pull out the very first loop through the middle of the coil. 3. Now you have to twist this to form the eye and secure it with pin 5. 4. Remove pin 2 and fully insert pin 5. Now you can adjust the coil as you want a once happy secure the end to point 6. 5. Now I secure the coil with 3 drops of CA glue. One where the eye meets coil, second ať the bottom of the coil and third to secure the loose end to the coil. Remove the coil from the jig by removing pin 5 and trim the excess thread. 6. Place the coil on the deck Perhaps someone finds it usefull. Stay healthy! Peta_V mtaylor, John Allen, Gregory and 20 others 23 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Salmson 2, Speeljacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted March 20, 2020 Share #2 Posted March 20, 2020 Thanks for sharing Peta, a modified (and better) version of a method I have been using. cheers Pat Fright, hollowneck and mtaylor 3 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 21, 2020 Share #3 Posted March 21, 2020 Similar to what I use, but I put one of the nails such that the coil is bent 90 degrees. Hit it with some water/white glue mix and it hangs well. Justin P. 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin P. Posted March 21, 2020 Share #4 Posted March 21, 2020 This is a great little diagram. I assume you are fixing the actual rigging to the belay pin area in some other way. Ive seen some folks simply tie it down with an overhand knot and hit it with a dab of CA, then hang the coil over that. I wonder if in some form, that this is basically what everyone does? Or if some nut out there is actually belaying and coiling the same line that runs into their rigging! An admirable thing to do for sure. mtaylor 1 Quote Current: US Brig SYREN - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 Completed: HMS TRITON - Cross Section - Scale 1:48 / Gallery Secret Vessel MOREL - Master Korabel - Scale 1:36 / Gallery 18th Century Armed Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:24 / Gallery HMS BOUNTY Launch - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 / Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peta_V Posted March 21, 2020 Share #5 Posted March 21, 2020 @Justin P. Yes, the line is attached to the pin with "8-style" knot (same as in reality) then cut and the eye of the coil goes over the knot. CA glue is used to simulate some weight. In 1/72 scale (which is my AVOS) everything is so tiny that it would not be podsible to do it on the same line. (I'm having problems only hang the coils on some places on fully rigged model)! Peta_V hollowneck, mtaylor and ccoyle 3 Quote Current builds: Tender AVOS - Master Korabel HMS Royal Caroline - Panart HMS Triton - Cross section Completed: HMS Victory - Revell HMS Bounty - Revell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 21, 2020 Share #6 Posted March 21, 2020 Justin, That's what a lot of do. Run the line, a quick wrap, a spot of glue and put the coil on the pin. Trim away the excess. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwiederrich Posted April 17, 2020 Share #7 Posted April 17, 2020 Nice demonstration. Rob Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted May 2, 2020 Share #8 Posted May 2, 2020 A better version than what I’ve done. Your method of creating the loop is excellent and one I’ll adopt. Thanks! mtaylor, Peta_V and hollowneck 3 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: HMS Winchelsea Completed Builds: HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davec Posted May 2, 2020 Share #9 Posted May 2, 2020 great method and tremendous explanation! thanks! Peta_V and mtaylor 2 Quote Current builds: Kotare 1/32 Spitfire Mk.Ia Model Shipways 1/48 Longboat Model Shipways 1/24 Grand Banks Dory Soon to start: Fully framed Echo Completed builds: Wingnut Wings AMC DH9 East Coast Oyster Sharpie Echo Cross Section 1/48 Scratchbuilt Hannah from Hahn plans 1/64 Kitbashed Rattlesnake from Bob Hunt practicum 1/64 Brig Supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peta_V Posted May 3, 2020 Share #10 Posted May 3, 2020 I'm really glad it helps! hollowneck and mtaylor 2 Quote Current builds: Tender AVOS - Master Korabel HMS Royal Caroline - Panart HMS Triton - Cross section Completed: HMS Victory - Revell HMS Bounty - Revell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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