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6 hours ago, Suzdal said:

What sort of clamps would that be ?

 

I have a bunch of clamps that you've shown in your photos. Would someone have pictures of the bigger clamps ?

 

I too have a great deal of trepidation about planking. Was going to order the Speedy, but will hold off and order the Zulu today from Chris.

 

Richard

I have some bigger woodworking C Clamps that I though I might be able to Rube Goldberg into reachin around the entire hull, but unless I had them exactly perfect, they'd probably damage the MDF.

So no, I won't be doing that either.

I'll just undo the one on there tonight and check the bend. Then adjust as needed and reattach permanently. 

Remember, I just wet it and held it in place to dry. No glue so far.

On the bench:  Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy

 

On Deck:

Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu,

Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie,

Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon 

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Not certain if this is exactly what you are looking for but repurposed binder clips can possibly hold down the planks.
 

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/2003-clamps-what-kind-do-you-use/?do=findComment&comment=47524

 

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I'm thinking if nothing else, then the trusty Finger, Mk.1a could be of use.

On the bench:  Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy

 

On Deck:

Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu,

Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie,

Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon 

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1 hour ago, clearway said:

just no more crazy glue experiments!😇

Like the time I glued my left hand to my cellphone? 

 

not cool....

On the bench:  Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy

 

On Deck:

Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu,

Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie,

Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon 

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8 minutes ago, ErnieL said:

Like the time I glued my left hand to my cellphone? 

 

not cool....

😂 I hate when that happens.

Jeff

 

In progress:
Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale

USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76

HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48

HMS Sphinx - Vanguard

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Hi Ernie

 

I also struggled with the gunport pattern. I found it very difficult to bend such a wide strip in two dimensions to get it to fit snuggly against all the frames. In the end I used a small travel iron (the one I use for Chuck's plank edge-bending technique). I describe in my Speedy log (here) how I used the iron to flatten the gunport pattern in situ. Once they're reasonably flat any remaining lumps and bumps will be lost in the planking.

 

Derek

Cheers, Derek

 

Current build:   Duchess of Kingston

On hold:              HMS Winchelsea

 

Previous builds:  HMS SpeedyEnglish Pinnace, Royal Yacht Caroline (gallery),

                            Victory Cross-section (gallery), US Clipper Albatros, Red Dragon (years ago!)

 

On the stocks:    18th Century Longboat

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I have the portside gunport pattern on and nicely fitted now.   I resoaked and reapplied, after I did a bit more fairing on bulkhead #4. If seems I went a touch far on #5, (counting back from the stem), si I shimmed it out a tiny bit. It looks somewhat decent, and I’m a tough critic. 

 

3 hours ago, DelF said:

Hi Ernie

 

I also struggled with the gunport pattern. I found it very difficult to bend such a wide strip in two dimensions to get it to fit snuggly against all the frames. In the end I used a small travel iron (the one I use for Chuck's plank edge-bending technique). I describe in my Speedy log (here) how I used the iron to flatten the gunport pattern in situ. Once they're reasonably flat any remaining lumps and bumps will be lost in the planking.

 

Derek

Derek, I saw you talking bout that in your build log, nd I’m certainly going to try your method on the starboard side. Any time savings and stress relief methods are good in my book.  I don’t like pinning or clamping anything with the wood under tension, even if it does lay down perfectly. It’s king for alignment and out of plumb issues down the road, never mind the constant threat of glue failure. 

Again, I overthought stuff and ended up reinventing the wheel. 

 

 

On the bench:  Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy

 

On Deck:

Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu,

Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie,

Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon 

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10 minutes ago, ErnieL said:

I have the portside gunport pattern on and nicely fitted now.   I resoaked and reapplied, after I did a bit more fairing on bulkhead #4. If seems I went a touch far on #5, (counting back from the stem), si I shimmed it out a tiny bit. It looks somewhat decent, and I’m a tough critic. 

 

Derek, I saw you talking bout that in your build log, nd I’m certainly going to try your method on the starboard side. Any time savings and stress relief methods are good in my book.  I don’t like pinning or clamping anything with the wood under tension, even if it does lay down perfectly. It’s king for alignment and out of plumb issues down the road, never mind the constant threat of glue failure. 

Again, I overthought stuff and ended up reinventing the wheel. 

 

 

 

Photos, or it didn't happen.

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I took a few quick snaps while on my way out the door this morning.

Notice my exquisitely clean work area with not a single stray project in sight.

 

More to follow.

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On the bench:  Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy

 

On Deck:

Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu,

Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie,

Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon 

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2 hours ago, James H said:

Once those are on, progress should be nice and steady.

truth be said james, I'm truly enjoying this project now.  It's a much welcome change of pace from the plastic bashing and as long as I don't make a cock of it all, I might succeed in convincing a few more fellows to attempt one as well.

On the bench:  Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy

 

On Deck:

Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu,

Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie,

Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon 

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A bit soon I thought, but FIrst Blood. 
 

Apparently this is a sickness in which we are required to pour everything we have into it. 

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On the bench:  Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy

 

On Deck:

Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu,

Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie,

Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon 

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Speedy, so far, has been a pleasure. 
Now comes first planking. 
Oh joy!!!

On the bench:  Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy

 

On Deck:

Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu,

Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie,

Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon 

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You rattle can man  -   that aint  fair  - I love Gallies  and you have one.

 

OC.

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Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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49 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said:

You rattle can man  -   that aint  fair  - I love Gallies  and you have one.

 

OC.

Roden 1/144. It has an option for having all the high lift devices deployed.   I decant most of what comes out of rattle cans. The rest I tend to wear. 

I cant get a good finish with a rattle can, so I go a Dixie Cup it goes along with a bit of Levelling Thinner and gets run through the airbrush. Much more precise that way. 

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On the bench:  Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy

 

On Deck:

Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu,

Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie,

Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon 

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3 minutes ago, ErnieL said:

Roden 1/144. It has an option for having all the high lift devices deployed. 

I fancy a 1/48  scale one  but imagine the room  needed   5-6 feet?

 

Just worked it out   222  feet  wing span  at 1/48  is  4.6 feet.

 

OC.

Edited by Old Collingwood

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Yep, all of that. The 1/48 B-36 is 5 ft.  B-52 somewhat smaller. The 6 engine An-225 in 1/72 is 5 1/2 ft

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On the bench:  Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy

 

On Deck:

Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu,

Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie,

Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon 

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Just came across this - very nice start!

Mike

 

Current Wooden builds:  Amati/Victory Pegasus  MS Charles W. Morgan  Euromodel La Renommèe  

 

Plastic builds:    Hs129B-2 1/48  SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48  Five Star Yaeyama 1/700  Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama  Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32   IJN Notoro 1/700  Akitsu Maru 1/700

 

Completed builds :  Caldercraft Brig Badger   Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle  Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700   Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350

F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72  Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48  Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48  Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72

Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya  Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16

 

Terminated build:  HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn)  

 

On the shelf:  Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits

 

Future potential scratch builds:  HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)

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Now I’m taking wood off of a few bulkheads, and adding little wedges in others.

Oh the joy of it all.

On the bench:  Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy

 

On Deck:

Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu,

Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie,

Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon 

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Question.

 

Can, should, or is it advisable to twist a plank to follow the curve under of the rear under the quarterdeck?

On the bench:  Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy

 

On Deck:

Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu,

Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie,

Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon 

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Inventing (and cataloguing) a complete new addendum to the Oxford English Dictionary while learning the planking. Some French, Spanish, German, and Chickasaw is also supported. 

 

My wife, being a proud full blood Chickasaw Indian helps me with the latter. 

 

There are talks with the War Department on the feasibility of a limited thermonuclear strike on my bench...

On the bench:  Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy

 

On Deck:

Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu,

Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie,

Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon 

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Roight then.....


Here we are, as of last Thursday,  the first attempt at first planking. 

The first plank is glued and cured, the next two were wet and pinned. 
The middle plank on the prow will be made right of course

 

I know all you wood ship guys out there sneeze at my slow crawl, but this is earth shattering for me. I’m literally learning a new skill as I go. 

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On the bench:  Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy

 

On Deck:

Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu,

Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie,

Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon 

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