Matthew Kassebaum Posted May 8, 2020 Share #1 Posted May 8, 2020 The beautiful beast has made her presence known! Please follow this journey and offer criticism and suggestions and enjoy the show ccoyle, Old Collingwood, gieb8688 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kassebaum Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share #2 Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) Enough work for today! I manage to set up a work space that is clean. Clamps tested and good. Edited May 8, 2020 by Matthew Kassebaum gieb8688, GrandpaPhil and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kassebaum Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted May 9, 2020 Duanelaker, Old Collingwood, etubino and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob S Posted May 9, 2020 Share #4 Posted May 9, 2020 Matthew - Thanks for including us on your fantastic journey. I look forward to the trip. Good luck, keep pressing and don’t be afraid to ask questions. There are a lot of resources at your fingertips for if and/or when you need them. Old Collingwood 1 Quote Rob active projects: HMS Victory, Mamoli 1/90 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kassebaum Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share #5 Posted May 9, 2020 Thank you Rob S for the kind words and the follow. This is my first....I know....big bite to chew....but oh what a challenge!!! Old Collingwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted May 9, 2020 Share #6 Posted May 9, 2020 welcome aboard the billings victory club Matthew, you dived in at the deepend then!- hang on it is a bumpy ride😁. before you install the middle bulkheads see if you want to alter them to allow for the stairwells - i did it for one set of stairs, but wished i had cut out the others and made new strengtheners either side of the hole (see philg88 victory log) a bit of work involved but worth it. Keith Old Collingwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kassebaum Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted May 9, 2020 Thank you for the welcome Keith and the deep end it is! Well worth it when complete I am sure! I will consider the stairs but may pass....may not. This being my first build and all....Im not even sure where this will take me in the end. Stain...paint....still considering. Old Collingwood and clearway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kassebaum Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share #8 Posted May 9, 2020 Ok huge question!!! The two visible decks of the Victory...some stain...some paint. The pictures I have found show it to be a dirty white....almost light sandy brown. Opinions? Not really happy with whats provided..... GrandpaPhil and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kassebaum Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share #9 Posted May 9, 2020 As she sits now. Old Collingwood, GrandpaPhil, etubino and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted May 9, 2020 Share #10 Posted May 9, 2020 i just used what came with the kit and varnished it- no stain or paint used. Keith Old Collingwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kassebaum Posted May 14, 2020 Author Share #11 Posted May 14, 2020 Just recieved this gem....they say it is essential knowledge and a good read. $14.95 and free shipping (no pun intended) gieb8688, Ryland Craze, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted May 14, 2020 Share #12 Posted May 14, 2020 Hi Matthew, Looking good at this point. If it's a lower deck, I wouldn't worry about the paint or varnish as not much is visible. The other thing is, wait as long as possible to paint or varnish as wood glue won't stick to those. I'm attaching a copy of the Kit Log Index. Open it, scroll down to Victory and look for Billing Boat builds. Every manufacturer has a different design for this ship (or any ship for that matter) and reading through some of the logs might give an insight so you don't get into a position that seems impossible to get out of . Wooden Ships.pdf Kevin and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted May 14, 2020 Share #13 Posted May 14, 2020 hi matthew my longridge anatomy of nelsons ships is in a smaller thicker format but an essential must have for victory modellers😉 just take your time and double check everything Keith Old Collingwood and gieb8688 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kassebaum Posted May 14, 2020 Author Share #14 Posted May 14, 2020 mtaylor and Keith I have looked through the logs for Victory seeing final results and Billings logs for building and have scanned through clearways build countless times. I have been to the table since I posted the last progress picture. I am hoping for some time this weekend. mtaylor, Old Collingwood and clearway 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kassebaum Posted May 16, 2020 Author Share #15 Posted May 16, 2020 Just an update as to where I am with Ms. Victory here.....to say the least she is a beast by all means. Just this far has been......an experience??? Ive noticed that the deck is too wide in some spots and needs to be sanded some...other than that this has fit well. Now the planking.......I don't know anything about but I will tackle soon....maybe. gieb8688, Old Collingwood and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kassebaum Posted May 16, 2020 Author Share #16 Posted May 16, 2020 That bottom plank somehow managed to get worked down as I strugggled with it and had to notch the plank on the lower edge...but not much. I think as we plank it I can move the gun ports up about 1mm and it wont be noticed. This should put the ports where they need to be and I don't believe it will be noticed when finished. Old Collingwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kassebaum Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share #17 Posted May 17, 2020 Got a little curious. mtaylor, Old Collingwood, gieb8688 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted May 17, 2020 Share #18 Posted May 17, 2020 ahhhhhhhhhhhhh the memories😉- hope my log helps Matthew- any questions just ask Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kassebaum Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share #19 Posted May 17, 2020 Keith your build is an inspiration. I have a few small things to do before planking which I am nervous about to say the least. I see some use filler and or blocks and some dont. Not sure my approach yet. I have not planked the lower deck as I call it. The main is just in place for fit and check. That did have to be sanded in a few places to allow the fourth plank to fit flush at the top. I have sanded that top deck back some and did have small issues with the lower three. If you look in my pictures there is a small gap in one row. As I sad in a previous post, I think I can compensate for that with the planking and placement of the lower row of guns as they are not opened up, but more just a dummy wall to mount a cannon on. I think if planned right that lower row could be moved up 1 or 2 mm and still keep the final appearance correct. If you have thoughts on planking please feel free to share or suggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted May 17, 2020 Share #20 Posted May 17, 2020 i had to do the same with the ply formers- as mentiond in blog cut and shut them till they sat with less wavy effect- when it comes to actual planking check a few different logs and images of real victory and mark out where the lower whale goes- you will have to start tapering the planking from there down - you can see the run on the stern on my victory- no blocks were used on mine but its up to you. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kassebaum Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share #21 Posted May 17, 2020 Planked the second deck and coated it as well. Did some minor painting and test fitting. Actually used a black cherry stain instead of flat black as it calls for per the directions. gieb8688, GrandpaPhil and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kassebaum Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share #22 Posted May 17, 2020 BLACK VIKING, mtaylor, gieb8688 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted May 18, 2020 Share #23 Posted May 18, 2020 you will need to sand the paint off the ply siding as this will need planked over to allow a better key for glue. Keith mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kassebaum Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share #24 Posted May 18, 2020 Keith...agreed. There are some raised edges along the edges of the ply that I want to smooth down. It will no doubt take some of the ply away....not much but will smooth the side for planking and will also leave plenty of ply for the plank to bond to. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted May 18, 2020 Share #25 Posted May 18, 2020 you will find planking will straighten some slight wiggles out- are you going gunports open or closed? Keith mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kassebaum Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share #26 Posted May 18, 2020 Id like to do them all open. Thats the plan now. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kassebaum Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share #27 Posted May 18, 2020 Keith I do have a question for you though. On your planking did you overlap any? I have looked at countless pictures of the Victory and it appears that around the whales some of the planks do overlap. Or is that the whales themselves that appear to overlap the planking? mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted May 18, 2020 Share #28 Posted May 18, 2020 its the whales overlapping the planking- it can get confusing because the yellow lines / gunports don't follow the whales- if you look at the following pic and pay attention to the gunports you will see the top of the whale as well as the bottom of it. gieb8688 and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kassebaum Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share #29 Posted May 18, 2020 So Basically it is a smooth planking on both sides and then the whales on top of that planking. If you look in the picture that I have enclosed it looks like they all overlap. mtaylor and gieb8688 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kassebaum Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share #30 Posted May 18, 2020 mtaylor and gieb8688 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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