PJG Posted June 15, 2020 #1 Posted June 15, 2020 Hello all...newbie to ship/boat models here but not to making little things. My primary focus is miniature replicas of historic buildings but I’m quickly learning a lot of the skills and techniques I’ve developed doing that lend themselves fairly well to my first attempt in at least a couple decades at a proper wooden boat model (MS New Bedford Whaleboat). I went with that particular kit as a result of one of my other hobbies (genealogy) and the fact that I actually thought it would be a nice, relaxing, breeze of a first build (famous last words). It turns out that a few of my long-lost ancestors from both mom and dad's lines put in time on whaling vessels (one on the Morgan) and this kit would be a nice little tribute. Thanks to the New Bedford Whaling Museum for their wonderfully extensive ship crew database and making it freely available online to the public. Don’t worry, there weren’t any officers in the family, just restless teenagers from Massachusetts and Connecticut who probably had few options and no clue what they’d gotten themselves into. I’ll bet they had some interesting stories to tell when they made it back to the farm in New England! But I digress. I tend to digress a lot. Just tell me to stop, My wife does it all the time. So, to make a long story longer, I stumbled on this forum recently while trying to find a source for realistic miniature rope (thanks Chuck) and also found a real gold mine of absurdly humble craftspeople whose willingness to share their experience/talents/knowledge with those of us a little further back on the learning curve is a real treat and greatly appreciated. Hopefully I can make a contribution myself every now and again. Looking forward to being a part of the crew...Patrick. Ryland Craze, James H, GrandpaPhil and 8 others 11 Quote
ccoyle Posted June 15, 2020 #2 Posted June 15, 2020 Welcome aboard, Patrick! mtaylor and JeffT 2 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, TBD
druxey Posted June 15, 2020 #3 Posted June 15, 2020 Come right aboard, Patrick the Digressor; and welcome! JeffT and mtaylor 2 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
JeffT Posted June 16, 2020 #5 Posted June 16, 2020 Hello Patrick. Welcome to MSW mtaylor 1 Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
mtaylor Posted June 16, 2020 #6 Posted June 16, 2020 Welcome to MSW, Patick. And feel free to start a build log. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Jim Lad Posted June 16, 2020 #7 Posted June 16, 2020 Hello Patrick, and a warm welcome to MSW from 'Down Under'. John mtaylor 1 Quote
GrandpaPhil Posted June 16, 2020 #8 Posted June 16, 2020 Welcome! mtaylor 1 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
James H Posted June 16, 2020 #9 Posted June 16, 2020 Welcome to MSW. You'll find loads of info here and plenty of folk willing to help you out too. Looking forward to a build from you. mtaylor 1 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: Zip, nada! On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48
PJG Posted June 16, 2020 Author #10 Posted June 16, 2020 Thanks again for the warm welcome everyone. I have a quick question that I'll ask here despite there almost certainly being better places to ask it (forgive the newbie). I'm probably 80% along on the whaleboat I mentioned in my intro. I started it last Fall with a hiatus or two along the way. The question is whether a build closer to completion than its beginning qualifies for a build log? I have taken photos along the way but not specifically intended to illustrate specific techniques. Most were taken with my phone and intended to show friends and family how it was coming along. There are already several good build logs here on this particular subject but I think my take on this boat represents an alternate approach that some might find useful/interesting. It's also possible that the final 20% of this build could take me as long as some of you knock off ships of the line! EJ_L, Jonny 007 and Ryland Craze 3 Quote
VTHokiEE Posted June 16, 2020 #11 Posted June 16, 2020 I would say start the log where you are. If you want to post any of the earlier pictures do that in the first post (or few) to give some back story to your current state (but I don’t think it’s necessary). PS - Welcome! mtaylor 1 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
Ryland Craze Posted June 16, 2020 #12 Posted June 16, 2020 Welcome to Model Ship World Patrick. I would be interested in seeing a build log of your New Bedford Whaleboat as I am always interested in seeing alternate ways of building ship models. You may have something in your build log that will help other modelers on their builds. I would also like to see some pictures of your miniature historic buildings. VTHokiEE and mtaylor 2 Quote Ryland Member - Hampton Roads Ship Model Society - Ship Model Society of New Jersey - Nautical Research Guild Current Build - Armed Virginia Sloop, 18th Century Longboat Completed Build - Medway Longboat
EJ_L Posted June 16, 2020 #13 Posted June 16, 2020 Welcome to MSW! I would also say to just start where you are at. If you happen to have pictures of the earlier work you can always post them up front, and if not, we can enjoy it from where you are. It is fairly common for people to stumble across logs well underway so that the beginnings are missed. Also, as you are already finding out, these take time and so I think it is better to go ahead and jump right into the logs and the community rather than waiting for the start of a new build. Best of luck and I look forward to seeing your work! mtaylor 1 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild
PJG Posted June 17, 2020 Author #14 Posted June 17, 2020 Thanks guys, sounds like a plan. You're right EJ_L, if I wait for my next build it could be a while! Hi Ryland...I'll attempt to post some of my historic building pics now. The subjects I choose are usually local (Albany and Rensselaer counties in NY) and almost always have some kind of personal connection. One represents the building as it appeared when built (Sherman farmhouse, Pittstown NY), one as it appeared shortly before it was torn down (early 18th century Albany Dutch home in the 1940s) ) and another "exploded" view to show how the Dutch used brick veneer on timber frames (Van Alen house, KInderhook NY). Jonny 007, Jack12477, mtaylor and 6 others 9 Quote
Ryland Craze Posted June 17, 2020 #15 Posted June 17, 2020 Wow! You are a very skilled modeler. I love your work. It reminds me of some of the homes at Colonial Williamsburg. I cannot wait to see the work that you do on ship models. mtaylor 1 Quote Ryland Member - Hampton Roads Ship Model Society - Ship Model Society of New Jersey - Nautical Research Guild Current Build - Armed Virginia Sloop, 18th Century Longboat Completed Build - Medway Longboat
druxey Posted June 17, 2020 #16 Posted June 17, 2020 Impressive work, Patrick. A very nice digression! mtaylor 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
mtaylor Posted June 17, 2020 #17 Posted June 17, 2020 3 hours ago, PJG said: The question is whether a build closer to completion than its beginning qualifies for a build log? I have taken photos along the way but not specifically intended to illustrate specific techniques. Indeed, you can do that. Also, your buildings can be upload in Shore Leave in the Non-Nautical area. Jonny 007 and Ryland Craze 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
PJG Posted June 17, 2020 Author #18 Posted June 17, 2020 Thanks Ryland, druxey... and to mtaylor for pointing me in the right direction if I decide to post more building pics on the forum. I had a feeling there might be an appropriate place for them to live and that I'd end up putting them someplace else! Now on to that build log... mtaylor and Ryland Craze 2 Quote
mtaylor Posted June 17, 2020 #19 Posted June 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, PJG said: Thanks Ryland, druxey... and to mtaylor for pointing me in the right direction if I decide to post more building pics on the forum. I had a feeling there might be an appropriate place for them to live and that I'd end up putting them someplace else! Now on to that build log... See my last post to you: in Shore Leave and Non-Nautical area. In there are planes, cars, trains, buildings, etc. Ryland Craze 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
PJG Posted June 17, 2020 Author #20 Posted June 17, 2020 Yes, I was digging around in there last night and appreciate the heads-up! Thanks again... mtaylor 1 Quote
Jonny 007 Posted June 17, 2020 #21 Posted June 17, 2020 Hello from a collection of small islands just south of Texas (there’s a storey there...) As a new member here, I want to say please start a build log. Your model buildings are spectacular and so is your photography. So I’m sure your build log would be a worthy addition here. Something for others to aspire to and if nothing else it will definitely provide some nice pictures for us to all look at. mtaylor, VTHokiEE and Ryland Craze 3 Quote CURRENT BUILD HMS Bounty’s Jolly Boat - AL - FINISHED HM Schooner Ballahoo - Caldercraft
PJG Posted June 17, 2020 Author #22 Posted June 17, 2020 Hi Jonny 07...I appreciate your kind words and encouragement. I'm in the process of going through my whaleboat build photos to see what I have from early on. I'm hoping to start a build log shortly. Jonny 007, Ryland Craze and mtaylor 3 Quote
Jack12477 Posted June 17, 2020 #23 Posted June 17, 2020 Welcome from another Upstate NYer ! Just down the road from you in Catskills area. Been to Kinderhook and Pittstown a number of times. Ryland Craze and mtaylor 2 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour
PJG Posted June 18, 2020 Author #24 Posted June 18, 2020 Hi Jack...thanks for taking the time to say hello. It's good to see people from the neighborhood (relatively speaking) here! Ryland Craze and mtaylor 2 Quote
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