Battle of Waterloo Attack on La Haye Sainte Farm by Old Collingwood - 1/56 (28mm)

[Old Collingwood]

Evening all,   just a bit more work on the 5th KGL  including some toing and throwing  as I improve with my technique  - I re touch up what I have done before, to get a uniform appearence  - including adding "toshes"

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

Evening all,    some more progress today  - I have decided to place a few KGL 5th  Light infantry  in my dio, thease were sent down along with the 5th Line regiment  to bolster the members deffending the Farm,  they differed from the Line regiment as they did mot wear back packs,   the figures I have are un shaped on thier backs ready to take the back packs,  so I have had to do some shaping  to put some extensions of thier belts,   quite a fiddly job requiring scraping the backs to form belt lines.

After priming with Vallejo Black surface primer  I then started with the Red layers (this has been darkened with dark Brown to make it more brick Red than bright Red)    then I painted on the Off White belts including one in dark Brown.

 

Time consuming but steady  trying not to mess them up,

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

"Why do flat clear coats have to be a pain in the neck  and bain of my life"?

 

Evening all  -  yep that subject again  -  I have been trying in vain to flat the finish of my Vallejo Acrylic paints  uisng a  bottle of Vallejo Matt  clear top coat varnish  - tried everything  - thinned it using distilled water 40/60  as  suggested,   applied it in thin coats  allowing drying time before re applying,   even added some Vallejo  Matt Medium  as this is supposed to dull  Vallejo items  like paint and top coat  - still no good  the paintwork is  refusing to dry anything but a satin finish.

I understand certain paint colours of Vallejo  tend to stay a satin colour depsite being a matt paint  - namely red and blue  (something about the pigments)

 

OC.

[Roger Pellett]

If they sell Dulcote in the UK, buy a can.  

 

[Egilman]

Like Roger says... Dullcoat...

 

If it's not flat and you want it flat, Testors Dullcoat, no product does it better...

[Old Collingwood]

2 minutes ago, Roger Pellett said:

If they sell Dulcote in the UK, buy a can.  

 

The reason  for brush painting the top coats is  not all the figures needs to be flat  - areas like the swords, hat plates, Cuirrasier   helmet details  and cuirasses breast plates need to stay shiny.

But thanks for the heads up.

 

OC.

[Egilman]

This is why the make the gloss coats In little bottles, overall flat, and the details you want gloss are done with a Brush....

 

Similar technique to your highlighting, you have much more control putting gloss on a flat with a brush than flat over a gloss....

 

Remember gloss works by smoothing the surface to increase it reflectivity and as a result the paint has a hard time sticking to the smooth surface...

 

Flats are by rule not smooth surfaces, so the coating you put on can bite and lay where you put it...

 

Base coat flats, gloss up the details that need gloss...

[Old Collingwood]

20 minutes ago, Egilman said:

This is why the make the gloss coats In little bottles, overall flat, and the details you want gloss are done with a Brush....

 

Similar technique to your highlighting, you have much more control putting gloss on a flat with a brush than flat over a gloss....

 

Remember gloss works by smoothing the surface to increase it reflectivity and as a result the paint has a hard time sticking to the smooth surface...

 

Flats are by rule not smooth surfaces, so the coating you put on can bite and lay where you put it...

 

Base coat flats, gloss up the details that need gloss...

Thanks bro,          yep the idea is  - Im priming with Vallejo Surface Primer  (supposed to be a matt product / the grey one is  but the black one is slighly shiny)   then the paints I use all Vallejo  are supposed to be a matt paint also, so in theory I should be starting out with a flat painted figure  and the flat clear coat should be just to knock down the odd  shiny spot and to seal the finish  - but its not working out that way, its deffo the Prussian Dark Blue thats playing up with the so called flat red a close second,   and doesn't want to flat  (like its saying  " I want to be noticed"

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

I still have a Tamiya rattle can of Clear  laquare  but I dont want to mix that into the mix  as I am trying to keep it all just 100% water based acrylics.

 

OC.

[Egilman]

55 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said:

and the flat clear coat should be just to knock down the odd  shiny spot and to seal the finish

Yep, Testors dullcoat is THE product to do that... I wouldn't have a clue on what that go-to flat overcoat product is for acryls.... (if they even have one)

[Old Collingwood]

8 minutes ago, Egilman said:

Yep, Testors dullcoat is THE product to do that... I wouldn't have a clue on what that go-to flat overcoat product is for acryls.... (if they even have one)

Yep  Vallejo  Matt Acrylic Varnish is supposed to do just that, and in fairness  with flat paints it dous do the job, but on some shiny paints it just wont dull them no matter how many coats they have had  - the blue on one og my figures has now had  6 coats of spaced out Vallejo flat coat  - but still has a satin look.

 

OC.

[Roger Pellett]

I assume that your Vallejo paint comes in the little droplet bottles.  Make sure that you thoroughly shake these up.  I use a wierd technique where I shake it up and down vertically actually hitting my knee on the down stroke.  This violent action seems to properly mix the flatting agent.

 

Roger

[Old Collingwood]

3 hours ago, Roger Pellett said:

I assume that your Vallejo paint comes in the little droplet bottles.  Make sure that you thoroughly shake these up.  I use a wierd technique where I shake it up and down vertically actually hitting my knee on the down stroke.  This violent action seems to properly mix the flatting agent.

 

Roger

Yep, my arm is now Eight foot long  due to tha amount of shaking I have been doing, the funny thing is  its  flats down any odd bits on flat paint, its like there is something  about Vallejo Blue and Flat Red.

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

I think my back up plan is to  -  paint them/weather them then  let them dry for a few days  then  look at my options  - Tamiya Flat coat laquare  is  not really practical due to the smell,   I think its a case of shaking  and more shaking.

 

OC.

[mtaylor]

If the paint is in a jar or can for brushing, drop a small ball-bearing or even a small nut into it before shaking.  If you have an old empty spray can, make sure it's depressurized completely, punch a hole in it and use the ball from the can. 

 

As a kid, we sometimes used small rocks (washed and dried thoroughly), fishing sinkers, etc.  

[Old Collingwood]

8 minutes ago, mtaylor said:

If the paint is in a jar or can for brushing, drop a small ball-bearing or even a small nut into it before shaking.  If you have an old empty spray can, make sure it's depressurized completely, punch a hole in it and use the ball from the can. 

 

As a kid, we sometimes used small rocks (washed and dried thoroughly), fishing sinkers, etc.  

Yep, I read about that, any thoughts on mixing  - as I have also been using an old brush and stiring the paint like crazy as well as shaking it  - kind of spent more time shaking and stiring  than actually painting.

 

OC.

[Edwardkenway]

Could you get the Admiral to shake while you paint 😁?

The  ammo/mig paints I have already have the agitator ball in, a good shake and they're good to go.

[Old Collingwood]

6 minutes ago, Edwardkenway said:

Could you get the Admiral to shake while you paint 😁?

The  ammo/mig paints I have already have the agitator ball in, a good shake and they're good to go.

She is busy knitting me a pair of wellington boots for the winter.🤣

 

OC.

[Canute]

Sounds like heavy socks there, mate. But warm feet in the winter is a good feeling.😁

[Old Collingwood]

2 hours ago, Canute said:

Sounds like heavy socks there, mate. But warm feet in the winter is a good feeling.😁

I have already got Five pairs of Knitted swimming trunks in the draw.😜

 

OC.

[popeye the sailor]

superb job on the figures so far OC    knitted skivvies..........bet they are heavy when you get out of the water...;)    knitted suspenders?  just a thought   

[Old Collingwood]

14 minutes ago, popeye the sailor said:

superb job on the figures so far OC    knitted skivvies..........bet they are heavy when you get out of the water...;)    knitted suspenders?  just a thought   

Yep  - hence why I wont wear them  - thank you  so much for the  nice words Denis.

 

OC.

[mtaylor]

The other method I've read about but never tried it, is an small electric or battery operated drill and an old flat bit.  Use a drill as it's slow enough.  Put the bit in the bottle, hit the switch, and mixed paint.  

[Old Collingwood]

10 minutes ago, mtaylor said:

The other method I've read about but never tried it, is an small electric or battery operated drill and an old flat bit.  Use a drill as it's slow enough.  Put the bit in the bottle, hit the switch, and mixed paint.  

But worry end result might equal  - spilled paint over  work surface, with my mains operated drill anyway.

 

OC.

[Kevin]

 a lot of work going on OC, the armies are a massing

on you tube, old Jigsaw are used as paint mixers 

 

[mtaylor]

I think many of us have made messes mixing paint.  Try the shaking with  what's been suggested by us. 

 

 

[Jack12477]

I use this Mixer from MicroMark

 

[Canute]

Me too. Just remember to release the switch and let the paddle thing stop before you take it  out of the bottle. Knew a guy who duck-taped a paint bottle to his jigsaw. The bottle went sailing out of the tape with disastrous results.

[Javlin]

Your figures are looking Very Nice indeed OC !!

[Old Collingwood]

1 hour ago, Javlin said:

Your figures are looking Very Nice indeed OC !!

Thank you kindly.

 

OC.