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Posted

Morning Adrieke,

 

Thanks for pointing out where the gap is.

I didn't see it in the first place!

Slowly but steady you are getting there  :D

 

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Posted

thanks Wim. it was too obvious to me i had to change it.

 

also had to redo the base as the one that has the wiring go through had come lose. was getting a bit messy. i decided to use some small nails on each side of the hole and tought i had them straight but it showed through.

 

redid it all and am letting it set now overnight. i wish i could have waited to fit the base but now that i start workign on the third deck i wont be able to turn her on her back to fit it comfartably.

 

Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar

Next build : undecided

On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory

Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl

Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi

Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80

Posted (edited)

Ah yes Adrieke

I had several joins like that in the Spirit as there was only one length of railing  :angry: 

I couldn't really see a way out of it  so I hid as much as I could and tried to cover the obvious ones with paint

 

I also see from the close up that the stair handrails on yours are fitted into the deck

The instruction in mine said to fix to the stairs themselves

I wish I had seen that before as it looks 200% neater

Keep up the good work

Mick

Edited by Micklen32

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Posted

Adrieke,

 

You've been pritty sharp/observant. it's good to redo those things, as later on they will irritate you, because you know you should have corrected them.

Carl

"Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson
Search and you might find a log ...

 

Posted

thanks Mick yeah I am hoping that some paint on the joints will make them pretty invisible.

I had a look at your stairs and I see the difference but still looks good to me :)

 

this one was pretty obvious Carl . seems like I am constantly redoing things lol

 

Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar

Next build : undecided

On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory

Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl

Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi

Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80

Posted

Adrieke,

 

I think we all feel that way a lot more than any of care to admit.  I sometimes think maybe each kit or scratchbuild should be done in duplicate.  The first one to make all the mistakes on and the second is the 'golden' one.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

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Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

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CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted

that would be an idea Mark. maybe not a full second ship but partially so that you can try out certain things :)

 

haven started painting the brass railing yet but am working on the railings on the first deck and the lower part on the second deck

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not happy with how the 3rd deck stateroom sits. there is too much gap between it and the deck. I am trying to figure a way to make something that makes it click on to the deck but not found a good solution yet.

 

 

 

Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar

Next build : undecided

On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory

Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl

Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi

Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80

Posted

Really like those little clips Adrieke  :dancetl6:

You could get those into places the ones I use wouldn't go

I use the ones you see more often with the black scissor like body and red grips

 

Now I have a question Adrieke

I hope you don't mind me asking it here but you have a lot following this and I should get a good response

 

A lot of my current build is stained

Now we all know that plywood is not the best to take stain

Do you tend to stain anyway - Have you a foolproof way of staining - Do you give up and paint?????????????

Today I tried soaking parts in stain but they still came out uneven

 

Thanks for any responses

Mick

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<p><strong><span style="font-size:18px;font-family:'times new roman', times, serif;">Mick</span></strong></p>

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Posted

hi Mick. they are just clothes pegs and are good for small things like this but they don't open very wide.

 

on the Virginia I stained the railing tops and in some of the pics in the gallery you can see the unevenness. the same for the spiral staircase handrails on the kom.

 

I use a dishcloth to dab some stain on , wipe it off so its not as runny  and then gently rub it on the wood. that way I seem to be able to get the best consistency.

 

I am sure there are others that have better ways as I am very new to staining and am very wary when doing it as my first staining of the Virginia hull came out pretty badly .

 

Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar

Next build : undecided

On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory

Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl

Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi

Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80

Posted (edited)

Hey Adrieke

I found the wife was holding out on me and hadn't shown me that particular style of clothes peg

I have some now  :P

 

As to the stain I really don't know where to go next

If you have a look at my tram blog you can see the results I got with soaking

I have tried dabbing and rubbing like you, also painting on with a brush   :huh:

I will be interested to see what others say about the subject

 

Mick

Edited by Micklen32

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<p><strong><span style="font-size:18px;font-family:'times new roman', times, serif;">Mick</span></strong></p>

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Posted

HI Mick

 

sorry but not sure what is best to do . its a bit slack that they didn't make these parts out of proper wood instead of ply.

 

 

 

Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar

Next build : undecided

On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory

Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl

Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi

Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80

Posted

while trying to figure out the best way to hold the 3rd deck stateroom I had to remove the wiring and lights from the 2nd deck. in doing so I broke off one of the pins from a LED so I need to redo that one.

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I didn't want to remove that part but as I wasn't sure if it will all fit in again . lets hope I did it right

 

looking at the curved walls on the stateroom i have decided to redo them. the mistake i made there was that i  oriented them wrong and the plywood doesn't bend as good as in the other direction.

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i decided on a construction of 2 bolts that will screw in to a little metal plate that sits underneath the deck. this means i will also need to be able to remove the ceiling of the stateroom to be able to reach the bolts. its getting more and more complicated  and maybe i should just put it all in and not worry about being able to open it up again :huh:

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the railings on second and third deck require 84 x 35 mm pieces of 1.5 x 3 mm sapelli so i taped a stop in the mitre box so i could easily cut them.

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and here all the pieces

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i finished all of the bottom parts of the railings on deck 2

 

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Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar

Next build : undecided

On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory

Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl

Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi

Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80

Posted

I think I get what you're doing with the bolts.... I'm not sure if this is accurate or going to be useful but could you glue the nuts to the ceiling of the stateroom and run the bolt down into them from above. Then you wouldn't have to remove the ceiling to get to the bolts. :huh:

Posted (edited)

HI Mick

 

sorry but not sure what is best to do . its a bit slack that they didn't make these parts out of proper wood instead of ply.

 

No I know just what you mean Adrieke

The thing is I presume any laser cut parts are going to be some sort of ply  :mellow:

I think the ultimate method is to paint a deep matt brown

 

As far as yours in concerned

It is a pain when you break or have to take off a piece

You never know if it is going back perfectly

 

Certainly looking a nice job though

I am going to really take my time with this tram and when I do my next ship I will try and get it as close to museum quality as I can with a kit build

Keep it up Adrieke

 

Mick

Edited by Micklen32

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Posted

Looking good, sir.  I think the do-overs you are taking on are definitely adding to the overall appearance! 

Wayne

Neither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.
Epictetus

Posted

Randy that is sort of what i am doing but to screw the bolts in from above i need to get access to them and unless i want them visible from the outside i need to put them inside. i ll take some pictures to show you mre in detail :)

 

thank you Geoffrey :)

 

thanks you Mick  i ll be checking out you tram now and then as i have been tempted to buy a similar one :)

 

thanks Wayne. i notice i am getting more and more critical. sometimes i have to let them go because it would require too much work but these ones i can and will fix :)

 

Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar

Next build : undecided

On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory

Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl

Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi

Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80

Posted

Adrieke,

 

You are progressing nicely.....the bumps in the road just add to the satisfaction with the results when you finish. Looking fine!!!

 

Cheers,

 

Jim

Completed      Robert E Lee, Misisssippi riverboat               

 

Completed,  HMS Victory Bow Section

 

Completed,  Wells Fargo Stagecoach...Picasa album.... 

 

Completed,  Lackawanna tugboat converted to private yacht...

 

Completed:  Sopwith Camel, 1:16 Scale, Model Airways...at another location...

 

Completed:  1961 Ferrari F-1 Sharknose

 

Completed: (sorta)  OcCre BR-18 Locomotive

 

Completed: 1/35 Pz.KPfw.III

 

Completed: Allerton Steam Pumper circa 1869

Posted

thanks Jim :)

 

I have redone the railing in 2 parts that had the  big gap (I glued a small scrap of brass left over where they link to give a bit of strength) and repainted so it looks like it is one piece now :)

post-622-0-85520000-1369742634_thumb.jpg

 

also had a try at finishing of a railing on the 2nd deck. have learned that its best to add the 2 triangle ornaments first before adding the railing :)

post-622-0-98539000-1369742639_thumb.jpg

 

Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar

Next build : undecided

On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory

Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl

Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi

Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80

Posted

Ah, but it's the gingerbread that makes these riverboats special.  From the pictures out there, they may look similar but the details give them their personality.  Lovely work on your details, Andrieke.  Nice fix on the railing.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted

thanks Randy , yes lots to do but i have to pace myself and not start on them yet til i got the 3rd deck sorted out  as i dont want to damage anything.

 

thanks Robbyn , i am happy with the look :)

 

thanks Mark , i cna do the same thing for all the railings out of 2 parts on that level but the higher ones wil be visible from both sides so a different aproach wil be needed :)

 

Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar

Next build : undecided

On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory

Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl

Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi

Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80

Posted

yes was getting a full time job building the ship and watching Sjors ^_^

 

redid the back railing and no more gap:)

 

but those tiny triangle brass bits are really annoying took me half an hour to finally get them right :mellow:

 

before with gap

post-622-0-10541500-1369829320_thumb.jpg

after without gap

post-622-0-31069000-1369829325_thumb.jpg

 

Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar

Next build : undecided

On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory

Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl

Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi

Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80

Posted

Watching me??????

Why, what have I done...

I'm just sitting at the bar and enjoy my drinks.

And of course pay attention if you are doing a fine job on your build.

And yes, It looks goos this far  :D

 

animaatjes-sjors-94584.gif

Posted

That fix was worth the time Adrieke...looks wonderful. now when Sjors and I stumble out of the bar I don't have to worry about Sjors slipping through that gap and landing on the deck below :o

Robbyn

If you risk nothing, you risk everything!

 

Current builds

Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0

AL San Francisco II

Mordaunt (Euro Model)

Completed Builds

18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro
 

In the closet

Battle Station

Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)

 

Posted

thanks  Sjors and Robbyn :)

 

actually Robbyn there is no deck below just a little ledge and the paddle wheel (when I install it ^_^  )

 

Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar

Next build : undecided

On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory

Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl

Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi

Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80

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