Glory of the Seas 1869 by Vladimir_Wairoa - FINISHED - 1:72 - medium clipper

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

Deck Finalized. 

I managed to offset cladding on deck. I used sharp pencil fór IT and Rubber to clear out the lines. Finally put coat of clearance lacquer. That All. Its so dense on clipper that laying individual planks of that length would be nightmare fór sure.Thank you fór viewing etc...this IS result. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

I continue with something else.

Rigging of lower yards. 

Tried with served rope of scale thickness for entire length for stability of roofrope will see if to continue with this fashion. 

I believe this way will be doable fór me Up until upper topyard not thinking od topgallant and higher up as of now. I follow underhill general view...

 

 

 

 

[BANYAN]

Nice work mate; looks good.  I like the yard trusses; very well made.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[ClipperFan]

On 11/13/2022 at 7:16 AM, Vladimir_Wairoa said:

Deck Finalized. 

I managed to offset cladding on deck. I used sharp pencil fór IT and Rubber to clear out the lines. Finally put coat of clearance lacquer. That All. Its so dense on clipper that laying individual planks of that length would be nightmare fór sure.Thank you fór viewing etc...this IS result. 

 

 

 

 

 

Vladimir,

It's been a while since I've been able to visit this site. Our son was recently rear ended while sitting at a stop light. He's fine but our family car's been totaled and as usual, the other guy's insurance settlement isn't near enough to get us another comparable car. It's been a huge distraction. 

Anyhow, your deck work is simply amazing. It actually looks like the planks have all been caulked as well. Very impressive!

[ClipperFan]

On 11/18/2022 at 4:41 PM, Vladimir_Wairoa said:

I continue with something else.

Rigging of lower yards. 

Tried with served rope of scale thickness for entire length for stability of roofrope will see if to continue with this fashion. 

I believe this way will be doable fór me Up until upper topyard not thinking od topgallant and higher up as of now. I follow underhill general view...

 

 

 

 

Vladimir, 

Your attention to detail is second to none. I particularly appreciate your scratch built apparently brass parrell which matches the Underhill illustration identically. The same goes for your safety line, as well as the professionally rigged stirrups, footropes, and blocks. All very impressive work.

 

 

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

Thanks for interest and comments Folks. 

@Rich, sorry to hear unfortunate setback, those are regretful occurenes where little helps ať least maybe that no injury was involved thankfully. I hope for the best with compensations etc...

AS far as last updates i only observe what folks are doing mostly in rather mediocre fashion ...

 

To follow 

@ Dolphin Strike revision etc ...

 

I continue detailing after underhill..spent enough tíme with brass to get me entertained. Im glad i dont follow only  usual 1:96 plans as there IS rather simplified solution with using simple hooks etc. This IS magnifier work applied. 

I though have one problm folks. I really have issue how to blacken already constructed brass on wood surface lie topmast tops etc.

m not sure painting would be satisfying fór me at least. But i dont know of something from chemická Arsenal to blacken it AS already attacjed to wood. If you have satisfying solution i would be thankfull. 

 

Nôt fully moving to both Axis but sufficuently enough  to one  for our need. Some pics. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 21, 2022 by Vladimir_Wairoa
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[Vladimir_Wairoa]

Small update from todays  rigging preparations. I continue with making Howes cranes on topmast caps.  These needs to be 3 made,  each for every lower topyard. 

Since my solder skin poisoning axident I derailed from soldering at All trying different methods of joining cut and shaped brass mostly by wires thru holes..thanks much for watching etc...

 

 

 

[ClipperFan]

Vladimir, 

It's painful to read about your solder skin poisoning accident. I wish you a speedy recovery. Your miniature crane fashioning is impressive. Thanks for sharing.

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

6 hours ago, ClipperFan said:

Vladimir, 

It's painful to read about your solder skin poisoning accident. I wish you a speedy recovery. Your miniature crane fashioning is impressive. Thanks for sharing.

Its few years now Rich, it healed but i need to be careful with agressivr glues as skin is nie extra sensitive. 

 

 

Thanks for likes folks. 

I Continued with Anchor release working mechanism. Im not expert in this field nor history buff or aspirating one I hope and believe this is the correct pattern from the era as per similar vessels of that tíme. 

 

Design relies not on pulling the release bar which i suppose would be impossible fór mens muscles anyway to pull Iron upon which hangs on chains weight  of some 6000 punds. Its working by turning bar on its own Axis, bar that ends IS shaped like half shaft hollowed at which top of rests opposite simple Iron bar that moves around its Axis as well. AS release Turns. Bar slips from its mesta and chain with Anchor drops freely ať the other end of bar there was aj eye i believe to secure its end when necessary  somewhat ať the deck so noone would attempt to release IT accidentaly or fór weather conditions sake...  I hope ili got IT right though.

 

 

 

Its still not secured and blackened as few more things. I also made Iron tip of skid to prevent wood from damage from lifeboats. With this done and anchors and  boats secured I will be  finished with last deck works and its a milestone long awaited as rigging journey can start aplenty. 

 

Thanks for watching comments, remarks etc... 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 23, 2022 by Vladimir_Wairoa
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[Vladimir_Wairoa]

Pumps. 

There was 6 Small ones around entire Boat, Up and downdecks and oné large wheeled around main mast. 

I found several pics about design of single handed ones around 1850 of Americas design, but AS We really dont have pics there IS at least little place for fantasy. Not

 in measurements but in design and shape. Even strange world in modeling. Seems wood got definitely substituted by metal and fancy ornamentals followed rigour  of i Guess Victorian era in England, fashion that dip Down into technical world As Well  but im no expert of states history. I found few beautiful pics of bilge pumpa in web. Still not blackened. I am waiting fór birch cassey substance.....:) 

Will follow later on. ...

 

..thanks. v. 

 

 

 

 

[BANYAN]

Love those pumps Vladimir; very nicely done - they look greatg.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[rwiederrich]

Vlad, you ump construction is wonderful. 
However,  I’ve found no evidence of the 6 smaller single pump type were on Glory of the Seas.  No photographic evidence shows them.   I’m assuming you are using artistic license here.   
 

Rob

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

4 hours ago, rwiederrich said:

Vlad, you ump construction is wonderful. 
However,  I’ve found no evidence of the 6 smaller single pump type were on Glory of the Seas.  No photographic evidence shows them.   I’m assuming you are using artistic license here.   
 

Rob

Thanks for correction Rob. Not pure artistic license hovewer I briefly read thru boston article 1869 upon which we are building this mammoth  and its a bit confusingly written at first sight counting pump boxes together which amounts 6with miselading sentence  "thus she has in all six pumps for the hold" ...  my  bad I didnt pay closer attention to it ...but no harm whatsoever. right, 1 wheeled and two standalone pumps of iron. Thanks again for correction. 

 

[rwiederrich]

4 hours ago, Vladimir_Wairoa said:

Thanks for correction Rob. Not pure artistic license hovewer I briefly read thru boston article 1869 upon which we are building this mammoth  and its a bit confusingly written at first sight counting pump boxes together which amounts 6with miselading sentence  "thus she has in all six pumps for the hold" ...  my  bad I didnt pay closer attention to it ...but no harm whatsoever. right, 1 wheeled and two standalone pumps of iron. Thanks again for correction. 

 

Yes...Vlad..6 pumps within the hold.  These pumps removed water and debris and expelled it out hull drain ports that were found along her second deck level.

Look closely and you will see the exit ports on these images and the staining caused by the expelled fish fluids(Top picture), and water in the bottom picture.  The only pump on deck was the large flywheel bilge pump.

 

 

Rob

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

30 minutes ago, rwiederrich said:

Yes...Vlad..6 pumps within the hold.  These pumps removed water and debris and expelled it out hull drain ports that were found along her second deck level.

Look closely and you will see the exit ports on these images and the staining caused by the expelled fish fluids(Top picture), and water in the bottom picture.  The only pump on deck was the large flywheel bilge pump.

 

 

Rob

Great documentation as always Rob. Appreciated indeed. V. 

 

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

@rwiederrich

 

Rob, I hlave question to ask, heading slowly to mast rigging...Was shrouds and possibly All seizing of big ropes tarred meaning Dark or white AS per english CS fashion? 

I suppose IT was black IS IT correct? 

Im looking ať some glorys photos nôt clearly visible though in detail. 

 

Thanks much 

V. 

[rwiederrich]

Vlad, Glory's Shrouds/Backstays and Stays were all probably steel wire rope...so I'd use very dark or black rope.  Her deadeye lanyards as well as her ratlines were oiled or tared to protect them from the weather.

White ratlines and lanyards was not a prototype practice,  However, some later clippers and large iron ocean carriers painted their lower shrouds white...to protect the steel cable.

Edited November 28, 2022 by rwiederrich

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

56 minutes ago, rwiederrich said:

Vlad, Glory's Shrouds/Backstays and Stays were all probably steel wire rope...so I'd use very dark or black rope.  Her deadeye lanyards as well as her ratlines were oiled or tared to protect them from the weather.

White ratlines and lanyards is not a prototype practice,  However, some later clippers and large iron ocean carriers painted their lower shrouds white...to protect the steel cable.

Many Thanks for clarifying Rob. 

In Michaels book its written shrouds were hemp but maybe later wire was most likely used. I remember back  from CS shrouds there IS considerable difference in thickness from wire vs hemp of same size. 11 " hemp us ridiculously thick hemp nôt being accepted by any deadeyes of reasonable size so I diminished those sensibly. I am about to use black ratlines though natural lanyard byť nôt white at all. 

I will use black seizing than. 

Will post prototypes. Thanks much for insight. 

 

 

Edited November 28, 2022 by Vladimir_Wairoa
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[gak1965]

On 11/12/2022 at 8:47 AM, Vladimir_Wairoa said:

Thanks for comments Folks, 

I turned wood into steel 

Primitive approach but easy one and functional.  Boxwood IS godsend in this respect. Painted black will do intended. 

V. 

 

Gonna use this method on the Fish, especially starting with the triangle rather than trying to carve from a solid piece of wood

[rwiederrich]

Sometimes things don’t scale very well.  That is why you need to reference images often to correct for these issues.  
 

Rob

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

10 hours ago, rwiederrich said:

Sometimes things don’t scale very well.  That is why you need to reference images often to correct for these issues.  
 

Rob

I agree Rob. Thanks for honest opinion, your experience of rigging many of them pays off clearly. Im Also bothered visually that thickness of ropes IS inapropriate in respect of everything else. 

Silly of me i only now realised that size or ropes IS in circumference not diameter. I have to divide IT by 3.14 to get diameter. 

All will be different and all IS making múch more sense now. 

Will i fór Once read that book carefully and not making fool of myself ?

 

Gosh, how stupid. V. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 30, 2022 by Vladimir_Wairoa
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[rwiederrich]

No problem at all.  I've been building clippers for over 48 years now and I've developed an *eye* for dimensions and I can usually spot an error very  quickly.  Diameter and circumference are significantly different. An easy mistake to make.

 

Trying to be true to Glory's rigging layout at any particular period of her career can be challenging....since receiving her new for and mizzen lower masts(Single sticks), she also received rigging upgrades for them as well.

Hemp was her original material...but soon changed when her additional backstays were added and her spreaders where removed.  She got the normal *upgrades*, one would expect with time and improvements.

 

Keep moving forward.

 

With this latest image I posted you can clearly see the 3 drain ports for the internal(2nd deck) pumps.  6 in all.

 

Ro

Edited November 30, 2022 by rwiederrich

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

Here we go with circumference divided its 1 mm thickness for mizzen mast.There is slight fuzzines on served ropes, not  sure how to eliminate it yet. Lines are not yet fastened indefinitely as i leave them to settle. Poly ropes are very stretchy compared to cotton. But amazing to work with. Mizzen mast is getting first beating. 

 

 Moving from back forward.

 

 

 

 

 

Im glad i shifted rail inwards.so that lanyards Could follow straight line up.still toucjing rail a bit though.....

 

 

Edited December 1, 2022 by Vladimir_Wairoa
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[ClipperFan]

4 hours ago, Vladimir_Wairoa said:

Here we go with circumference divided its 1 mm thickness for mizzen mast.There is slight fuzzines on served ropes, not  sure how to eliminate it yet. Lines are not yet fastened indefinitely as i leave them to settle. Poly ropes are very stretchy compared to cotton. But amazing to work with. Mizzen mast is getting first beating. 

 

 Moving from back forward.

 

 

 

 

 

Im glad i shifted rail inwards.so that lanyards Could follow straight line up.still toucjing rail a bit though.....

 

 

Vladimir,

I read in Revell's "Cutty Sark" instruction manual that running your lines through parrafin wax will eliminate the fuzziness issue you describe. Meanwhile your larger scale version is allowing for much greater detail than smaller scales can provide. You are doing a beautiful job of rigging and it's a thrill to observe your progress.

[Boccherini]

Vladimir,

just finished scanning through the last few pages of your log, I'm enjoying your small scale metal work. The dolphin striker is quite impressive.

 

Regards,

Grant.

[Alex-Ks1]

very nice work , it looks like a person  built it , Not a computer 

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

Thank you folks for kind words and encouragements. 

 

@ClipperFan Rich, exactly. I particularly chose this scale for this reason, to show other derailed aspects of ship, and nowadays there is possibility to to with astonishing details specially  in rigging event with clippers due to better materiáls than in the past etc...

Therefore my rigging will be very light compared to Robs astonishing knowledge and miniature mastery, its not my strong side really so I will to very light on running rigging, showing no sails most likely to state cutty sark IS rigged today and event that will be enough of force fór me. 

AS far as fuzzy lines thanks, but i believe i finally found simiarly usefull way with prvá glue mixed with water...i will show outcome...:) 

 

 

@Boccherini

Thanks much Grant, Im thriller by your works with  machinery indeed. ...

 

@Alex-Ks1

Thanks you Alex.

 

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There is no Massive update at this point, I last time returned to whats left to secure at deck. With  recuperation traces and hole under catheads  from Rising deck. 

To update. I will use black lanyards fór deadeyes not light color. I realised IT only draws atention and its not true to tarred weathered lanyard anyway. 

I still need filler to make those wedges under catheads.  impossible to see....

Thank you. 

As far As blackening. AS múch AS I hate painting and painting brass, I will never ever try to chemical blacken glued brass. Impossible of course...

 

I am reaching tweezers and magnifier territory of 1 mm chain  eyes. This size IS new fór me though :))) Decisions decisions. 

This IS Macro closeup magnified enormously. So. - asi far as Bowsprit rigging and so on, I believe im not bothering with trying to make any shackles od ridiculouspu amaller size just to suffer with no scale accuracy. Wired eye will IT be AS at the pics below

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

Bowsprit. 

Bowsprit rigging of these later éra ship  it seems to be rather easy fór modelers  comparing to earlier rope rigging boats. 

It seems glory had double Bowsprit guys fór that i have eyes premade on deck. Seems i will have to add that and ropewalk IS not yet ready. Hearts  vs  "bulleyes" polemic is nit opened :)).  Some pics. 

Thank you.

 

za

 

 

Edited December 6, 2022 by Vladimir_Wairoa
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[BANYAN]

Looking good Vladimir, nice, neat work.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[Bruma]

Wonderful job, a real pleasure for the eyes, especially the metal work!