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Kevin, So nice of you to spend your lunch break here. I'm very appreciative. Thank You indeed.

 

Thanks Backer, LevDavidovic, and Woodo in choosing to follow along as well. I appreciate the courtesy on your parts. Welcome to the shipyard. Though you may turn "grey" before its launched for its sinking (:-)

 

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Not to "beat a dead horse", but (:-) after my last post regarding the knightshead railings without pin holes, I got curious about why I decided to do them that way. Well going over some photos gave me the answer. 

 

I assumed that the photo below were actual salvaged original parts (they certainly look it). They had no indications of pin holes.

 

I also used this photo for help in adding a single anchor cathead that I mounted on the port side. Its port anchor will be attached later on.

 

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Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

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You're getting really good at this Michael........ :)

 

Frank

completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat     HMAT SUPPLY

                        

                         USRC "ALERT"

 

in progress: Red Dragon  (Chinese junk)

                      

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Nigel - thanks so much for your kind post and continued interest in following along. This build has been improved by following, and learning from some of your excellent ideas - (:-)

 

Frank -  As always thank (:-) PS: as you know your Alert is so beautiful 

 

And thanks mates for the kind "likes" and also just dropping by.

 

Cheers,

Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

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Hi Mates,

 

After drilling the needed holes and squaring them along the lower railings got close to attaching the main mast, and the shrouds, then – for some reason – as I was squaring the last of the railing holes, I decided to attach the needed horizontal rail at the foremast (where the squared holes had already been completed; to be sure that the vertical beams would all align properly when it was time to glue those long horizontal rails on each side.

 

Then realized that having pre-attached the foremast shrouds, before fixing in place the upper rail trim bits was a big mistake.

 

Now trying to align the squaring of the pre-drilled holes, adjusting the heights of the vertical braces is a real pain. Hmmm So before I attach the lower main, mizzen, and their shrouds, I will build all the rest of the upper rails first.

 

PS: Mark I should have gone back to your log (Marktiedens #103) and taken your sequence into consideration. Frank and I had also discussed this issue J we were both concerned about installing the upper railings before all the rigging work in case of breakage later on - (being all thumbs and all) Oh well, still an adjustment work in progress.

 

 

Here are a couple updated photos.

 

Regards,

 

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Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

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Michael - I figured that the railings would be a pain to do after rigging the shrouds - that`s why I did them beforehand. I was just really careful not to mess them up ;). You are doing a marvelous job - much more detailed than mine.

 

Mark

current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways

 

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Frank, thank for your comments.


Thanks for likes, and dropping by (:-)


A few added small time consuming details, as I want to make sure that all needed items are in place before I attach the mainmast shrouds to their deadeyes.


Turns out that the pin rails that I had located at the quarterdeck were in error (first early photo). Fred Hocker said, “we got that wrong, those pin rails were added by mistake, it should have been kevels”


So pulled them out-did leave some scaring, and then put together a kevel for each side.


 


Aconcern from me :


I make the Wasa (Billing Boats) with sails and left these rails in place.


I will need every pin and kevel a can find for the needed rigging for these sails. 


If you remove these pin rails i think that you wil not have enough kevels for your rigging if you add sails.


 


Greetings


Patrick


 


Ps,


If there are some misspellings in my english sorry


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Mark thanks for your kind post.

 

Patrick, yes that is correct. According to the museum those needed pin-holes should be drilled into the lower railings instead of from two incorrectly added rails.

 

I will use this as a rigging guide. I hope that this will be helpful for you as well (pdf that I could not convert into a jpg). Two pages showing all rigging attachment locations at the weather deck.

 

PS: 2 When Vasa II is (finally) published it will have the entire rigging plans in the book.

 

Cheers,

 

Wasa_rope locations copy.pdf

 

 

Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

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Thanks for the pdf,

 

Unfortunately,

I'm too far in the construction now too change this error on my model. :(

 

And,

Your model is and remains great !!!!

To be jealous of :)  :)  :)
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Bill, Thanks indeed.

 

Rick, not to worry. It seems that "accurate" changes to Vasa's rigging are continuously surfacing. It might be, that six months from now that they will go back to suggesting that the pin rails were in fact "ok"

 

Swedish ships in the early 1600s, it seems/I've learned, had not recorded rigging plans from that period - so it has become a partial guessing game for some details.

 

BV, Which Vasa kit have you ordered?. 

 

You will find great build logs here for Corel and Billings -  (along with a new product that just came out - DeAgostini 1/65th month by month subscription) A new log has just been posted here a MSW - that kit looks to be awesome - hmmmm....but BIG ha ha

 

good luck (:-) enjoy. The wonderful aspect of this ship are the hundreds of photographs that are available. Really an amazing reality look into the 16th century.

 

Cheers,

Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

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Indeed thanks for sharing the pdf Michael. I'm not building the Vasa...yet, ;) however the similarities between her and la Couronne in regards to rigging make this a valuable asset for when I start her rigging. Plus it will be good to have in the files for future use.

"A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor"
- John George Hermanson 

-E.J.

 

Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli

                    Royal Caroline - Panart

Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery

                                           La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery

                                           Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo

                           Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark.

Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch.

Member : Nautical Research Guild

 

 

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Martyn,

 

Corel has some issues, but it is a very good kit nonetheless. If you are interested, much earlier in my log I tore out and rebuilt sections that were totally inaccurate. You may want to gloss through some of those postings.

 

Had I known (well been more knowledgeable) after just starting, I could have avoided and easily built around the glaring Corel errors. (:-)

 

I appreciate your interest in following my log, I hope that some "fix" areas will prove valuable for you. If you like, you are also welcome to PM me at any time.  

 

PS: Billings Vasa instructions can be downloaded in pdf files here:

 

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bw40frlcNqbjOTNlYTE5Y2YtMGUyNC00NGE0LWE0ZTktNTRmZjFhNmM0MjM4&usp=drive_web&ddrp=1&hl=en#

 

Second row last on right

third row first on left.

 

Excellent back up build information. And same scale.

 

PS 2: SOS is my dream build - not there yet in terms of skills, but getting much closer (comfort-skills wise)  

 

Sincerely, 

Edited by md1400cs

Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

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Hi Michael,

 

Just catching up on your log this morning!

With regards to the installation of the upper railings and at what point they should be done, there is no right or wrong answer.

On my build, I waited until nearly the end. This made it harder for me to install the railings, but I think if I did the installation earlier, I would have had a hell of a time attaching the rigging and belaying pins to the lower railing under the upper railing! I remember having a discussion with Mark, who decided it install the upper railings at an earlier stage and was successful doing it. For me, with all the rigging associated with the sails, I think waiting was the correct choice!

 

Frank

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"PS 2: SOS is my dream build - not there yet in terms of skills, but getting much closer (comfort-skills wise)"

 

I think you are more than already there in terms of skills and equally as important, already there in patience and the ability to see many steps ahead. Your work continues to amaze me!

-Buck

 

Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build)

 

Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there...

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Buck,

 

Thanks indeed. You have more confidence in me than I have of myself, but your kind words have been taken to heart.

 

The stern section of the SOS, for example is NOT for the faint of heart (:-) It is such an amazingly beautiful ship that needs, deep attention to details to make it look "right". The carvings alone are in-and-of-themselves works of art. Not sure that any of the kits available have proper castings? hmmm

 

Cheers, and thanks for your kind post.

Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

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Hi Mates,

 

Finished installing the upper railings. As I mentioned in a previous post I had my “issues” installing the horizontal rails on each side of the foremast after installing the shrouds. So that done, as well as some tidying up of the carriage ropes I can move forward and attach the mainmast, and its lower shrouds.

 

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Now needed to make the bent 90º planks to link the horizontal bits.

 

Well that had its issues as well. Hmmm.

I must have tried to bend 50 pieces (needed 10) All but one plank allowed itself to be bent 90º. Even tried soft wood to no avail. I believe it was my lack of skills, and the extreme bend that was needed?

 

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So plan B. 

 

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Last pic I will be pulling out those badly made pulley/blocks now that I have, and know how to (more or less) use my Proxxon MF70 J

Before “moving forward” I plan to revisit the galleries and add some details. This is certainly one of the most difficult areas of this ship to articulate correctly especially with the Corel kit as a base. Not complaining – this has been widely discussed here at MSW with those of us building this ship. I had some left over bits from the upper railings that will work very well.

 

Cheers

 

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Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

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Great job on those railings! They look really sharp on her and add another awesome feature to look at.

"A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor"
- John George Hermanson 

-E.J.

 

Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli

                    Royal Caroline - Panart

Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery

                                           La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery

                                           Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo

                           Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark.

Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch.

Member : Nautical Research Guild

 

 

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Michael .... you are definitely ready for the SOS ........ this build speaks for itself...... and your plan B turned out real nice!!

 

Frank

completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat     HMAT SUPPLY

                        

                         USRC "ALERT"

 

in progress: Red Dragon  (Chinese junk)

                      

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Every time I see your model. I think  (In Dutch)  "jaa man, knap werk"

 

In English : waw, great job!!

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Mates, thanks for all likes and/or just dropping by for a look.

 

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Joe, As usual a big thanks for following along and posting such encouraging comments.

 

-E.J.  Thanks as well. Also really enjoying following your build log –cheers

 

Frank, (Riverboat) Plan B was a “winner” indeed. OH you have started a new boat. I will look for your build log (Chinese Junks always had a place of admiration for me) Do you plan on “aging” it as you did with your awesome Alert?

 

Martyn (BV.) thanks as well. Happy to have been of help with your PM regarding the cannons J

 

Patrick  - Thanks your Google English is great - ha ha

 

Dave, happy that you are feeling at home with my “clamp” funny , but it did not work grrrr (J

 

Frank, thanks as well. Yes summer is going well indeed. Enjoy your fishing season over there on the East Coast.

 

Off to Michael’s looking for some decorative bits, need to add some work to the galleries as I had mentioned above.

Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

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Hi Mates,

 

A lateral update – my usual posts - ha ha..

 

So, I decided to add some detailing to the galleries. The Vasa (based the on super detailed 1/10th) is certainly hard to grasp from a Corel kit.

 

PS: just a thought – Who really knows if the Vasa was as colorful and as highly detailed (art work) as is represented on the museum’s beautiful model.

The actual resurrection galleries, as an example, are very plain by comparison to the model (they appear to be rebuilt as well). So it appears that the goal of many kit/scratch builders is to try to emulate the model’s look. I, then added some detail bits as well.

 

My completed galleries before added details

 

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Used some extra painted wood bits from the just completed railings. Purchased a necklace, and used the bits for the bobbinets (glue added so that beads would not fall off string when cut)

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Received from Corel two new weather deck cannon opening trim rings

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Here are some finished up shots. 

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Now on to some added detail work for the bowsprit framing.

 

 

This 1/10th pic makes me very insecure Hmmm

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Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

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