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Hello everyone, I've just joined this forum and look forward to reading many posts.  I've a lot of wood model building (mostly RC airplanes), both by kit and scratch build, and have built two WWII ship kits, a Cutty Sark kit, and scratch built the SS Shenking merchant steamer.   Next project is the AL San Francisco galleon.  Most questions I have will be about rigging and choosing stain colors.  

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Welcome Scratchie:

 

Along with myself, both sides of my family are from Minnesota: Motley (near Brainard), Parkers Prairie (near Alexandria) and Minneapolis.  Most are still in the state.  I graduated from the U in '76 - Forestry.  I've been in Idaho for 30 + years but still look forward to visits to Minnesota.

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Hello Scratchie, welcome to MSW from the UK!

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STAY SAFE

 

A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin

current builds:

HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style

Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild 

French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold

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Welcome to MSW, Scratchie.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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 Scratchie, welcome to MSW. Glad to have you aboard. 

Current Builds:  1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                             Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                             Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

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:piratebo5:Scratchie, welcome to MSW 

Current builds;

 Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25

Providence whaleboat- 1:25     HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 

Completed:

HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished    Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished 

Non ship:  SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED

 

 

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On 11/3/2022 at 11:43 AM, Scratchie said:

Most questions I have will be about rigging

First,  a warm welcome to MSW.

On which San Francisco is this kit based ?  There were several but if it is a San Francisco from the 1600's or earlier The Rigging of Ships in the Days of the Spritsail Topmast by Anderson may be a help to you. I found copies on line from a few dollars to over $50.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/353709226806    There may be other books that are more appropriate for the era you are working on, but definitely look for contemporary based information to supplement the kit information.  Looking at the rigging in photos of the model, there are some things that you might want to delve into such as round deadeyes and the presence of belaying pins. 

Allan

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Hi Scratchie and welcome. I'd second Allan's recommendation about The Rigging of Ships in the Days of the Spritsail Topmast. Looking at AL's model, it seems to be based on the type of galleon in use in the second half of the 16th century (for example, it has a stern gallery - fairly rare before the end of the century, though I know of a couple of examples from 1555 - but no spritsail topmast). The book starts somewhat later (1620) but it's often possible to extrapolate backwards on the basis that rigging didn't change all that fast. I'm working on a ship from 1545 and this is still the best book I've been able to find, despite it being even further away from my time period than from yours.

 

Another thing you might find helpful is a collection I made of contemporary pictures of galleons on Pinterest - https://www.pinterest.com.au/lowe1847/galleons/ .

 

And you should also check out some of the galleon build logs, particularly Backer's Pelican/Golden Hind - he put a lot of work and research into getting all the details as right as he possibly could (and the model's amazing).

 

Make sure you start a build log - it's the best way to get help and advice, and we get to see a beautiful model taking shape.

 

And have fun with it!

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