Rik Thistle Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share #91 Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) Ron, "How to run a Lathe" by Southbend Lathe company. I've already built up a small library of general lathe and mill books, and specific ones such as 'Screwcutting in the lathe' - Martin Cleeve. I see that Amazon.uk does offer the book you mention and it's only £6. My concern is that most older books I feel are written around more rigid, higher tolerance UK/European/USA built equipments rather than small 'Chinese, built down to a price' lathes. But I'll have a think about it 😉 Richard Edit: Ron, I've now 'found' your book .... having a quick read-through now. And the lathe pictures therein remind me of a model lathe I built a few months ago! Edited July 11, 2023 by Rik Thistle Canute, FriedClams, Retired guy and 3 others 6 Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted July 11, 2023 Share #92 Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) Many of these old books were written for bench-lathes, marginally bigger than my watchmakers lathe with 50 mm centre-height. The watchmakers lathe probably isn't much more rigid than the SIEG, though manufactured to much higher standards. Here I am cutting the worm for the milling machine mentioned earlier. The cutting tool is actually a brazed carbide one as used on so-called Swiss automatic lathes. Their shaft is smaller (4 mm square) than the usual ones and hence better adapted to these small lathes. Below I am making a lead-screw for a home-built micro-milling machine. I am not claiming any specific accuracy, but it works well enough for my modelling projects. In this case I used a home-ground HSS 5 mm square cutting tool: First pass to check that the pitch is correct Last pass before chasing the thread with a die Edited July 11, 2023 by wefalck Canute, Retired guy, Jack12477 and 7 others 10 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Thistle Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share #93 Posted July 11, 2023 Here I am cutting the worm for the milling machine mentioned earlier. Thank you for the info and informative pictures. The results look very good. I think I need to go back and look at how I am grinding the single point cutting tool shape! Richard Retired guy, mtaylor, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Thistle Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share #94 Posted July 11, 2023 Egilman, Thanks. I think that ties in with what Wefalck has been advising. ...you set the top slide to 30 degrees... The procedure I have been missing is to introduce the tool to the workpiece at 30 deg (using the top slide) so that the tool's leading edge (on it's right side) does most of the cutting. I really can't remember if I was ever taught that back in the day...I may have but certainly don't recall it. I'm also wondering why the drawing asks for a chiselled end on the cutting tool. The mating teeth on the wheel are not flat bottomed...perhaps a rounded end on the tool would be less aggressive when cutting. As I mentioned previously, I have ordered some proper EN1A mild steel so will use that together with your's and Wefalck's advice when the time comes. Meanwhile I am getting on with making handles etc. I think I will tackle the Feed Worm issue once the project is finished, the decks are cleared and I have time to sit down and think it all out properly. I'll add an Edit if/when I am successful. Richard PS: I also just noticed that my Tailstock is about 0.25mm out in the horizontal plane - there is an adjustment for that on the tailstock, but it's a bit finicky to set-up correctly. I had adjusted it when I first got the lathe but over time it seems to have moved. Anyway, it would mean that my 2nd attempt, using the live centre for support, was probably causing the end of the workpiece to slightly wobble as it tried to straighten itself out. Canute, mtaylor, thibaultron and 4 others 7 Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted July 11, 2023 Share #95 Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Rik Thistle said: The procedure I have been missing is to introduce the tool to the workpiece at 30 deg (using the top slide) so that the tool's leading edge (on it's right side) does most of the cutting. Except in your case you want the cutter ground at 40 deg. thread profile set to cut from the left towards the right for left hand threads and the top slide set at 20 degrees... Ah, there is no engineering reason for the thread profile to be flat pointed, a round nose will work equally well, in fact engineering wise, probably better... That will slightly increase the depth of cut needed to execute the profile though... Edited July 11, 2023 by Egilman mtaylor, Jack12477, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Thistle Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share #96 Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) Egilman, Strangely enough, when I got up this morning I was thinking about the issue and I wondered 'why 30 deg?' ....should it not be 20 deg. So that was going to be on my To-Investigate list today. But you have saved me the trouble, thanks 🙂 Richard Edited July 12, 2023 by Rik Thistle Egilman, Canute, thibaultron and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted July 12, 2023 Share #97 Posted July 12, 2023 Yes, of course, it has to be half the included angle of thread. Many (most) toothed wheels have a pressure angle of 20°, that's were the included angle of 40° comes from. Incidentally, one can cut a worm-wheel with a tap as a cutter. There are various examples on the Internet for this. I have not done this myself, but I have made hardened concave knurling wheels in that way: https://www.maritima-et-mechanika.org/tools/attachments/attachments.html#Knurl. The matching worm would be exactly the thread of that tap. thibaultron, mtaylor, Egilman and 3 others 5 1 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Thistle Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share #98 Posted July 12, 2023 one can cut a worm-wheel with a tap as a cutter I have seen that mentioned in the past. Thanks again for the info. Richard Retired guy, thibaultron, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Thistle Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share #99 Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) Hi all, I'm getting close to the finish line. This post covers the last remaining parts ie handles and shelves. Firstly, the Crank handle for moving the Knee up and down. The same handle also moves the Saddle in and out. The drawing calls for the Crank to be made out of one piece of 3/16" brass. I decided to fabricate it out of three parts. I wasn't convinced I could bend the brass as depicted. I had some 1mm thick brass sheet that I did a test bend on and that bent fine - that convinced me to fabricate the Crank. Below, the square hole was filed into the 3/16" brass stock. The end with the square hole was then cut off and cleaned up. Close up of the square hole. The arm and circular boss. After bending the arm of the Crank, it was soft soldered on to the square end using a hot air soldering station. Next was cleaning up and fitting the two tool shelves. As seen below, one shelf fits near the top of the mill and the other on the sloping side of the mill Stand. That latter shelf had it's mounting face slightly angled on my mill so that it would lie horizontal when fitted. Both the Crank and the Feed Shaft require handles, as does the 'door'. Below, the Door Knob and the Crank lying next to the mill. Lastly, the Bed Crank. Again, another square hole had to be filed...yup, I really need to get that broach made ;-). I had firstly turned the 1/8" dia end on the lathe. Then over to the mill to put the flats on the central section and drill the two holes. Now ready to move back to the lathe for profiling the ball shaped sections. Finally, a couple of pics of the fully assembled mill (less driving belts, Pts 41) The remaining work is to disassemble, fettle and clean, paint, make up the drive belts and reassemble. I'll post when that is done. I'll also have another go at making Pt 29, the Feed Worm and post progress. All for now, Richard Edited July 18, 2023 by Rik Thistle Toolmaker, mtaylor, Canute and 6 others 6 3 Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted July 18, 2023 Share #100 Posted July 18, 2023 Rik, A challenging project, beautifully executed. Superb workmanship! Roger Egilman, Rik Thistle, FriedClams and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Thistle Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share #101 Posted July 18, 2023 Thanks Roger, Yes, I learned new stuff doing this one. Still a little whiles to go before it is fully 'finished', but I see the light at the end of the tunnel. Some parts are now in the paint shop, others in the 'fettling' shop. So the pressure is off 😉 Richard Canute, Egilman, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Thistle Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share #102 Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) Hi all, The parts are back from the paint shop and assembled. Below. There was a good bit of masking areas off before spray painting. And after the masking was removed some touch up with a fine brush was required. Colour chosen was Black - this seems to be the dominant colour around the turn of the last century and matched the colour scheme of my Stuart Lathe. Also shown above are a couple of shafts that 1-72 UNC grub screws are meant to bite in to. I decided to add flats to all such areas. Below, flats are being added to Pt 23, the Spindle Shaft. Below. One of the last things to do was add the two Belts, Pts 41. The drawing calls for them to be cut to length, with a slight overlap, then the overlaps super-glued together. The best way I found to do this was away from the mill. I firstly coiled the complete length to introduce a curve to the belt, then cut to length and then I weighed down one end whilst a cocktail stick with a dab of super-glue was applied to that end. The other end was carefully introduced and held down with finger pressure, making sure I rolled my fingers to stop the belt becoming part of my hand. Finally, three pics of the finished Milling Machine. the wooden base is temporary till I find something a bit better- it did allow me to handle the mill more easily rather than getting fingerprints all over it. Below, for scale, one material removal device sitting next to another. And the last pic shows the Mill about to meet it's workshop colleague, the Stuart Model Lathe. All the moving parts of the mill function as they are meant to - the handle at the front moves the knee up and down, same handle also moves the saddle. The belt drives work, and move the bed left and right. I will have another go at screw cutting the Feed Worm, Pt 29, and add a post about how I got on. Final thoughts are: - An enjoyable project that I would recommend. The Aluminium parts meant the workshop was much cleaner than when machining the cast iron of the Stuart lathe. However, in some ways, the Stuart product seems a bit more 'real'. - The drawing set was fine and adequate for the task. However, some of the dimensioning was a bit strange eg more than one datum on parts when really only one should be used. - The scale is claimed to be 1:12 but I always felt the real mill would be approaching 6 feet tall - the model is 4" high. - I thought I had lost one of the 1-72 grubs screws (...there are no spares in the kit) but I had somehow managed to installed two grubscrews in the same pulley fastening hole .... I found that out late in the day....and it explained why I could never properly tighten that pulley 😉 - I probably should have paid more attention to accurately making the Bed, Pt 4. It is quite important to follow the drawing dimensions 100%. Thank you for all the Likes, Comments and very useful feedback I received. It really does help bring a Build to life and also helps motivate me and helps me learn. I'm not sure what my next project will be....I have a long list to consider and some workshop improvements that need doing first. All the best, and see you soon 🙂 Richard Edited July 21, 2023 by Rik Thistle FriedClams, wefalck, Canute and 6 others 7 2 Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted July 21, 2023 Share #103 Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) Nice looking machine.... Matches up with the lathe very well... And btw, most job shop horizontal mills have a 4' spindle height, because most jobs are mounted by hand, the saddle height is set by the height a couple of workers could lift the work... So, at 1/12th scale, it is right on the money... The sliding beam of a Cincinnati 2MH rises to upper chest height on me, and I'm 6' tall... I'll be here when you choose the next one.... (psst, a radial arm would be perfect) Beautiful work... Edited July 21, 2023 by Egilman Retired guy, Canute, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Thistle Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share #104 Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) Egilman, So, at 1/12th scale, it is right on the money. OK, got it. Thanks. a radial arm would be perfect Interesting. I've mostly been looking at Polly Models' range of Anthony Mount models.... https://www.pollymodelengineering.co.uk/sections/stationary-engines/anthony-mount-models/index.asp I'm limited to a 7" flywheel so quite a few of them are doable in my workshop. But I'm a long way from making my mind up....all suggestions considered 😉 Richard Edit: Yes, the Oil Field Pump has also caught my eye ... https://www.stuartmodels.com/product/oil-field-pump-unmachined/ ... it would be nice to see it running with my Stuart 10V, say. Edited July 25, 2023 by Rik Thistle Canute, Egilman, Retired guy and 3 others 6 Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted July 21, 2023 Share #105 Posted July 21, 2023 40 minutes ago, Rik Thistle said: Egilman, So, at 1/12th scale, it is right on the money. OK, got it. Thanks. a radial arm would be perfect Interesting. I've mostly been looking at Polly Models' range of Anthony Mount models.... https://www.pollymodelengineering.co.uk/sections/stationary-engines/anthony-mount-models/index.asp I'm limited to a 7" flywheel so quite a few of them are doable in my workshop. But I'm a long way from making my mind up....all suggestions considered 😉 Richard I ran a Clausing 60" radial arm back in the toolroom days... Impressive machine... Those are some very nice engines, I particularly like the oil well field pump.... lots of moving parts, very rotational as well as linear motion, would be very impressive... Retired guy, thibaultron, FriedClams and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Thistle Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share #106 Posted July 21, 2023 I ran a Clausing 60" radial arm back in the toolroom days... Impressive machine... Those Clausing machines look like very serious pieces of kit. I did use a radial drill when I was undergoing training. I was always impressed how it could hold its accuracy even when the drill was out at the end of the arm. Not sure I could build a model from scratch though.....it would require a lot of research and design, whereas I tend to target 3-6 month projects, at least for now. But keep pushing...who knows 😉 Richard FriedClams, Retired guy, thibaultron and 3 others 6 Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted July 22, 2023 Share #107 Posted July 22, 2023 Very nice result, looking (almost) like the real thing! I said 'almost', because the hand-crank and the flexible drive shaft in brass are give-aways that it is model ... Rik Thistle, FriedClams, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Thistle Posted July 22, 2023 Author Share #108 Posted July 22, 2023 Thanks Wefalck. Yes, there is quite a lot of 'bling' on it 🙂 I think the model manufacturers do that deliberately to make the kit more attractive to potential buyers. It aslo makes the details stand out a bit more on a finished kit. For a display model it's OK, but for a 'real life' type model it would be unacceptable. Richard FriedClams, Egilman, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted July 22, 2023 Share #109 Posted July 22, 2023 Incidentally, one 'bling' thing seems to be missing: brass oil-caps (or glass vessels) on the main bearings ... Canute, thibaultron, FriedClams and 3 others 6 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Thistle Posted July 22, 2023 Author Share #110 Posted July 22, 2023 brass oil-caps Funny enough I was looking at that yesterday. I do have a couple of spare oil-caps from my previous models but I felt they were a bit too large to put on the Mill's main bearings. I may make smaller ones though. Richard thibaultron, Canute, Retired guy and 3 others 6 Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Thistle Posted July 22, 2023 Author Share #111 Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) Oil-cups added 🙂 Richard Edited July 22, 2023 by Rik Thistle AJohnson, Canute, Egilman and 9 others 12 Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted July 22, 2023 Share #112 Posted July 22, 2023 👍 , yep, that adds significantly to the 'historic' look! Rik Thistle, mtaylor, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted July 23, 2023 Share #113 Posted July 23, 2023 Amazing work! Canute, Retired guy, Rik Thistle and 2 others 5 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) On the building slip: 1:72 French Ironclad Magenta (original shipyard plans) On hold: 1:98 Mantua HMS Victory (kit bash), 1:96 Shipyard HMS Mercury Favorite finished builds: 1:60 Sampang Good Fortune (Amati plans), 1:200 Orel Ironclad Solferino, 1:72 Schooner Hannah (Hahn plans), 1:72 Privateer Prince de Neufchatel (Chapelle plans), Model Shipways Sultana, Heller La Reale, Encore USS Olympia Goal: Become better than I was yesterday "The hardest part is deciding to try." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolmaker Posted July 27, 2023 Share #114 Posted July 27, 2023 Hi Richard, I have been off piste for a few months and sadly missed much of this build. That said and having spent a couple of hours catching up with your efforts I gladly offer a huge thumbs up. The finished job looks fab. Paul Retired guy, Egilman, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Thistle Posted July 28, 2023 Author Share #115 Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) Paul, That is very kind of you, thanks. It was an enjoyable build and probably just the right length of time for me. I'm now trying to decide what to do next. Stuart's Oil Field Pump is a possibility https://www.stuartmodels.com/product/oil-field-pump-unmachined/ along with some other ideas. However I feel I need something a bit different that will force me to learn new things whilst still being makeable on my mini-lathe and mini-mill. So, still thinking.... 😉 Richard Edited July 28, 2023 by Rik Thistle FriedClams, mtaylor, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriedClams Posted August 1, 2023 Share #116 Posted August 1, 2023 Fantastic job, Richard - it turned out beautiful. Congratulations on its completion! Gary Retired guy, Egilman, Rik Thistle and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build Pelican Eastern-Rig Dragger Completed Scratch Builds Rangeley Guide Boat New England Stonington Dragger 1940 Auto Repair Shop Mack FK Shadowbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Thistle Posted August 2, 2023 Author Share #117 Posted August 2, 2023 Thanks Gary, I had noticed your dioramas a while back...amazing work and you have an amazing skill set. I'm off to read your latest, the Eastern rig dragger. As for my next project, well it's in the post....another workshop item, partly encouraged by a poster here 😉 After that, I think I need to branch out a bit....maybe in to an area Elon wouldn't be too enamoured with. Richard FriedClams, Egilman, mtaylor and 2 others 4 1 Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired guy Posted August 7, 2023 Share #118 Posted August 7, 2023 Very nice model Richard, that last picture is brilliant. Regards Richard mtaylor, Canute, FriedClams and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Bluenose by Retired guy - Model Shipways - scale 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Thistle Posted August 7, 2023 Author Share #119 Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) Thanks RetiredGuy, I've got an f1.7 lens for my 4/3rds Panasonic camera which allows a shallow depth of field...it took a few tries to get the correct balance of sharpness of the Mill against putting the Lathe out of focus by the right amount. I also adjusted the distance between the Mill and Lathe to help with that effect. I too was happy with the end result 😉 Regards, Richard Edited August 7, 2023 by Rik Thistle Egilman, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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