ronald305 Posted January 22, 2014 Share #1 Posted January 22, 2014 Hi there I'm sorry I haven't on this site in a while, but I need help with painting My airfix HMS Victory first I read else where on other Forums that some fellows hand paint their ships hulls especially the Yellow Ochre and the Black strip because they say that it doesn't look authentic when the ship is painted by airbrush so My question is which brand of paint is best used for hand painting the HMS Victory and which brand has the proper colors for this ship in order to be accurate I would appreciate any recommendation anyone would have thank you Ronald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted January 22, 2014 Share #2 Posted January 22, 2014 Ronald, I'd say paint it with any method you want. Brushstrokes might be fine at 1:1 but at anything smaller, it's problematical. But that's my opinion so let the flames begin. I've heard that Admiralty paints from Caldercraft/Jotika are the most accurate but have no experience, just second-hand knowledge of what's been reported. ronald305 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulises Victoria Posted January 23, 2014 Share #3 Posted January 23, 2014 Hmmm...I have been a modeler for over 50 years, and it's the first time I heard painting with an airbrush is unrealistic. Well... maybe except this German modeler who makes WWII dioramas and says that since the German tanks were painted using things like floor mops, he would use only brushes because that was more "realistic". Use whatever you feel comfortable with. These paints may be what you are looking for. http://www.modelexpo-online.com/product.asp?ITEMNO=SM23MS Hope this helps 42rocker 1 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald305 Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share #4 Posted January 23, 2014 thanks for the information on the paints fellows this question is for mark who recommends Caldercraft/Joika paints could you tell me the web site where I can get the paints this question is for Ulises would you know if the model expo paints can be used on plastic because my HMS Victory is a plastic kit not a wood kit Ronald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted January 23, 2014 Share #5 Posted January 23, 2014 Ronald, I'm not 100% sure where to get them. Might try Cornwall Models. As I said, I've never used them, I've just read the logs of those who have. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulises Victoria Posted January 23, 2014 Share #6 Posted January 23, 2014 thanks for the information on the paints fellows this question is for mark who recommends Caldercraft/Joika paints could you tell me the web site where I can get the paints this question is for Ulises would you know if the model expo paints can be used on plastic because my HMS Victory is a plastic kit not a wood kit Ronald Oops! Good question. I wouldn't know, sorry.Try to contact Model Expo directly! Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottRC Posted January 23, 2014 Share #7 Posted January 23, 2014 Use both airbrush and brush. I airbrush the yellow first, mask it, then airbrush the copper, mask, then airbrush the black. For airbrushing, I use Model Master, Tamiya, Humbrol, and White Ensign brands both acrylics and enamels. To give the model tone and body so it doesn't look like airbrushed plastic, I will do washes of thinned oils and acrylics. With brush painting, make sure you are using a good quality brush and only load the brush up 1/2 way and do light strokes. My favorite paints are DecoArt artist acrylics. Hobby Lobby, Ben Franklin, and Michaels have them. They make a Yellow Ocher and Lamp Oil Black along with a huge selection of whites and yellows to help tone the colors down. I think of a model ship like a three dimensional painting. ronald305 and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Builds: Revell 1:96 Thermopylae Restoration Revell 1:96 Constitution COMPLETED Aeropiccola HMS Endeavor IN ORDINARY Planned Builds: Scientific Sea Witch Marine Models USF Essex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stockholm tar Posted January 23, 2014 Share #8 Posted January 23, 2014 Ronald, The Admiralty paint sets are supposed to be the exact colours used on the original ship. Here's the Cornwall Model Boats page: http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/admiralty_paint_sets.html You'll have to scroll down for the Victory. I don't know if you can get them in the US, but I think Cornwall's postage is reasonable. I also don't know if they're suitable for plastic. Izzy Madd 1 Quote Kester Current builds: Sherbourne (Caldercraft) scale – 1/64th; Statsraad Lehmkuhl (half model) 1/8th" – 1'. Victory Bow Section (Panart/Mantua) scale – 1/78th (on hold). Previous build: Bluenose ll (Billings) scale – 1/100th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clloyd Posted January 24, 2014 Share #9 Posted January 24, 2014 I also don't know if they're suitable for plastic. Shouldn't be an issue over primer. Any acrylic paint will sit over primer well enough. They will take some experimenting with thinning, as I'm not sure they were designed to be airbrushed, and I've no idea what particle size in the pigment would be. Colin ScottRC 1 Quote -- Current Builds: HMS Pandora 1/64 Scratch Jeannie Johnston; 18thC Longboat with my son Previous Builds: HMB Bounty - Caldercraft Running Round my head: HMS Speedy (1782) - vaguely thinking POF "If at first you don't succeed, try it your wifes' way" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald305 Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share #10 Posted January 25, 2014 thank's fellows for all the information you offered Ronald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald305 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share #11 Posted February 1, 2014 Hello There can anyone help me with painting the top area from the front to back of My airfix 1/180 scale HMS Victory. With all the photos out there I'm still unable to find one that shows which area of railing or Bulwarks, .poop deck is suppose to be black and what is yellow Ochre, from what I understand by some pictures I was able to find the area where the guns are Yellow Ochre, but where does the color black start and end and the Yellow Ochre starts and ends, I'm still learning the ship parts or terminology so please be patient I will get it eventually LOL but for now I need all the help I can get with my building and would appreciate any in formation you have to offer thank you Ronald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelpsutton2 Posted February 3, 2014 Share #12 Posted February 3, 2014 I think that the dust jacket from the Anatomy of the Ship volume on the HMS Victory should answer most questions. You can find low res copies of the cover on the internet Quote Drown you may, but go you must and your reward shall be a man's pay or a hero's grave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald305 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share #13 Posted February 3, 2014 would that book be written by John Mckay if so I have that book But unable to find the area you are talking the only color photos of the ship are out side and all pages in this book are black and white and the dust jacket doesn't show any color photo of the deck Ronald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s4usea Posted February 25, 2014 Share #14 Posted February 25, 2014 If you're going to airbrush it, use Floquil Railroad colors. MegaHobby has them and is on the internet. Engine Black for the hull and Erie Lacawanna Yellow for the gunport stripes, (it's what I used, after much trial and error, on my Heller Victory). ronald305 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald305 Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share #15 Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) Hello there I need help with painting the first and second deck of my airfix 1/180 scale Victory it calls for humbrol #71 satin oak but I want to use the brand I have which is model masters would anyone know the substitute paint for the Humbrol satin oak in model master color paints I will not mind mixing to get the right color thank you Ronald Edited March 6, 2014 by ronald305 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald305 Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share #16 Posted November 15, 2014 would anyone know the exact color of the deck floors top and bottom, is it a tan or a grayish color also I saw in a book I have that the author recommends an off white color for the deck that can't true ?? also How do I get the deck to look real any recommendation or ideas would be greatly appreciated thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald305 Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share #17 Posted November 26, 2014 hello everyone who might be working on the airfix 1/180 scale Victory, would someone know the alternative paint color to the Humbrol 71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docidle Posted November 29, 2014 Share #18 Posted November 29, 2014 Ron, I usually use Vallejo Model Colors Deck Tan 986. Other paints that represent bleached teak decks are Floquil Aged Concrete which has been released as an acryl paint by Testors Model Master line. One of the things I really like about Vallejo Model Colors is that it levels beautifully after brushing. Hope this helps. Steve Admiral Beez 1 Quote Current Build: Merit 1/48 Early Eco 80' PT Boat and Imai 1/50 Catalan ShipFinished: Revell 1/196 USS Constitution (My oldest son's school project)Revell 1/72 Hanse KoggeRevell 1/50 Viking ShipRevell 1/72 U-BoatZvezda 1/72 English Medieval Ship Thomas Revell 1/90 The Nina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted February 13, 2015 Share #19 Posted February 13, 2015 Having built this ship, maybe some pictures might help you in positioning the diff colours. For the deck I used real maple wood, but Tamiya do a deck tan paint that replicates this.I hope these help you in your work.Foxy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald305 Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share #20 Posted February 13, 2015 thanks Foxy it will help, would you know the color # for the tamiya deck tan Ronald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s4usea Posted February 13, 2015 Share #21 Posted February 13, 2015 TS-68. Google is your friend. mtaylor and Admiral Beez 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Beez Posted September 29, 2021 Share #22 Posted September 29, 2021 On 2/13/2015 at 4:39 PM, ronald305 said: thanks Foxy it will help, would you know the color # for the tamiya deck tan Ronald I’m attempting this same paint scheme. Can you tell me what Tamiya paints you used for the rest of the ship? mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted September 29, 2021 Share #23 Posted September 29, 2021 Hopefully they will respond, but Foxy hasn't visited here since Sept 2018.. Admiral Beez and mtaylor 2 Quote “Indecision may or may not be my problem.” ― Jimmy Buffett Current builds: Rattlesnake On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Beez Posted October 9, 2021 Share #24 Posted October 9, 2021 On 9/29/2021 at 6:23 PM, Gregory said: Hopefully they will respond, but Foxy hasn't visited here since Sept 2018.. True. I’ve today sent an email to Vallejo asking if they can provide paint codes for Airfix’s Victory, http://www.hobbylinc.com/airfix-hms-victory-1765-plastic-model-sailing-ship-kit-1:180-scale-09252 mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipman Posted October 10, 2021 Share #25 Posted October 10, 2021 A rare instance of 'photobucket' images on this forum. I hope it's the last. mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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