augie Posted January 31, 2015 #331 Posted January 31, 2015 Looking forward to the final samples. Holly should give you a brite, clean look with plenty of contrast. But that maple may surprise you GLakie 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
rafine Posted January 31, 2015 #332 Posted January 31, 2015 For whatever its worth Patrick, I have favored the holly for my builds for quite a while now. Very easy to work with and looks good to my eye as a contrast to the hull planking. As everyone says, it's your opinion that counts. Bob GLakie 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
patrickmil Posted January 31, 2015 Author #333 Posted January 31, 2015 Here are the samples with linseed oil applied. I like how it brings out the caulking lines. CaptainSteve, augie, GLakie and 3 others 6 Quote Thanks, Patrick YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 Current: Trumpeter USS Yorktown CV-5
patrickmil Posted January 31, 2015 Author #334 Posted January 31, 2015 Let the voting begin again! GLakie 1 Quote Thanks, Patrick YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 Current: Trumpeter USS Yorktown CV-5
Carlmb Posted January 31, 2015 #335 Posted January 31, 2015 Digging the maple. Good contrast. GLakie 1 Quote Previous builds: New Bedford Whaleboat - Model Shipways Current Build: US Brig Niagara - Model Shipways
lb0190 Posted January 31, 2015 #336 Posted January 31, 2015 That looks better for all samples. I still lean slightly for the third photo of the maple, but depending on which one contrasts better with the rest of the ship would sway me to a final decision. How do you like that for a non- answer GLakie 1 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges
CaptainSteve Posted January 31, 2015 #337 Posted January 31, 2015 Holly, again (with the usual disclaimer regarding Captain's choice) GLakie 1 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve
Tuffarts Posted January 31, 2015 #338 Posted January 31, 2015 Maple for decks, Holly for bulwarks. Giving the decks that slightly lived in appearance with the grain showing. and creamy 'walls'. GLakie 1 Quote USS Constitution:Cutaway Build Log :-
GLakie Posted January 31, 2015 #339 Posted January 31, 2015 I'm going to stick with the Holly Patrick, but in the end, you have only to please yourself. Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
Sjors Posted January 31, 2015 #340 Posted January 31, 2015 I vote for Maple...... I think that Holly has to much a yellow shine ( I don't know how to explain it otherwise ) Sjors GLakie 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
augie Posted January 31, 2015 #341 Posted January 31, 2015 Darned, they both look good. But it's Maple for me! GLakie 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
mobbsie Posted February 1, 2015 #342 Posted February 1, 2015 Your gonna wish you never asked this question mate. I like both but seeing them oiled up has made me change my mind, MAPLE. Whichever you choose will look good. Be Good mobbsie GLakie 1 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :-
patrickmil Posted February 1, 2015 Author #343 Posted February 1, 2015 I'm completely happy with using maple for the deck planking. The admiral also weighed in on the question and she thinks the maple looks nicer as well. Since I was unable to decide on my own I appreciate everyone giving me their opinion. I will start ripping off maple planking then. augie, CaptainSteve, popeye the sailor and 4 others 7 Quote Thanks, Patrick YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 Current: Trumpeter USS Yorktown CV-5
lb0190 Posted February 1, 2015 #344 Posted February 1, 2015 Patrick, What type of saw do you rip planks with and if you had the opportunity to select the type saw again would you pick a different type? Somewhere in the future I can see myself cutting my own planks and have read some people use a band saw and others a table saw. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. I do not currently have a power saw for ship building, leaning toward a table saw since it seems so versatile. I thought a decent saw and planer would round out my needs when I'm ready to jump to that level of building. GLakie 1 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges
cookster Posted February 1, 2015 #345 Posted February 1, 2015 Patrick, very nice build you have going. I salute you and the other Conny builders who are actually framing the gun deck, rear windows, transom etc. This is a much more accurate approach to what I've done, which is the MS kit way. I wish I had done what you're doing but I'm much to far along now to tear it out start over. The transom and windows on mine will never look quite right, no matter how hard I try... Keep up the good work! GLakie 1 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy
patrickmil Posted February 1, 2015 Author #346 Posted February 1, 2015 Larry, I use a full size table saw to rip billets with lengths of 12-18" and the width of 2-3" and with a height that will be the final width of the planks. I take this billet and then rip it on the little Proxxon table saw in 1/16" thicknesses. The results are nice but it is time consuming for sure. Wes, thanks for looking in and thanks for the encouragement. tasmanian, GLakie, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Thanks, Patrick YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 Current: Trumpeter USS Yorktown CV-5
GLakie Posted February 4, 2015 #347 Posted February 4, 2015 Happy Birthday Patrick! popeye the sailor and CaptainSteve 2 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
Guest Tim I. Posted February 4, 2015 #348 Posted February 4, 2015 Happy Birthday Patrick! - Tim Quote
usedtosail Posted February 4, 2015 #349 Posted February 4, 2015 Have a great birthday, Patrick. CaptainSteve and GLakie 2 Quote - Tom - Current Build: Ochre Beagle Completed: Vanguard Speedy, Vanguard Duchess of Kingston, Stove Project, Ships Wheel Project, NRG Capstan Project, Billings Half Moon, Dumas Chris Craft 1938 27' Triple Cockpit Barrel Back, Panart Santa Lucia , Model Shipways Constitution , MS Bounty Launch , Mamoli HMS Beagle Member: Nautical Research Guild
CaptainSteve Posted February 4, 2015 #350 Posted February 4, 2015 Did I miss the Birthday party ?? Was there cake ?? GLakie 1 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve
fletch944t Posted February 4, 2015 #351 Posted February 4, 2015 Man, I'd sell dirty pictures of my mother to be 39 again. Happy Birthday you scurvy dog! riverboat, CaptainSteve and GLakie 3 Quote Clark Fletcher Current Build: USS Constitution - Model Shipways - 1812 Era Specs
_SalD_ Posted February 4, 2015 #352 Posted February 4, 2015 You and Jack Benny...Happy Birthday Patrick . augie, popeye the sailor and GLakie 3 Quote Sal Nautical Research Guild Current USCG Harriet Lane - Model Shipways Complete U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways New York Pilot Boat 'Phantom' 1868 - Model Shipways
lb0190 Posted February 4, 2015 #353 Posted February 4, 2015 Happy "B" day Patrick! GLakie 1 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges
patrickmil Posted February 5, 2015 Author #354 Posted February 5, 2015 Thanks to all for the birthday wishes! I have the next week off before I start my new position. I should have a couple of updates by then. CaptainSteve, Sjors, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Thanks, Patrick YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 Current: Trumpeter USS Yorktown CV-5
patrickmil Posted March 7, 2015 Author #355 Posted March 7, 2015 It's been a while for a post. I had to go back to page 12 to find my log. Work is new and I'm getting adjusted to it. Also, most of the progress isn't Earth shattering. It's mostly just framing gun ports and some planking. The gun ports were all framed in a 15 mm x 13 mm size. It's uniform and easy to follow. It might now be what Model Shipways had on their plans but hey, this model is dating back to 1803 at the latest so who's to say that the size of these openings hadn't changed a little bit. They are all framed up on the starboard side. The port side is next. I also couldn't resist the planking above the wales. I just had to do it. I'm not following any particular planking scheme either. I feel that the scale won't lend itself to showing individual planks and the hull will be painted over anyway. Like my Niagara, I want a perfectly smooth hull, hence the reason why I'm not sweating the planking too much. I also got the transom filled in. The port side gallery is starting to take shape as well, and the waterways are complete for the gun deck. I will finish framing up the port side gun ports and plank that area. Once that's done I will start work on the deck. I am going to go with maple planking and have just purchased a 13" bench planer that ought to help get some planking billets into the proper thickness. I hope you enjoy the pictures. As always, feel free to point and yell about any critical areas that could use more attention. popeye the sailor, rafine, riverboat and 17 others 20 Quote Thanks, Patrick YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 Current: Trumpeter USS Yorktown CV-5
_SalD_ Posted March 7, 2015 #356 Posted March 7, 2015 Very nice Patrick GLakie 1 Quote Sal Nautical Research Guild Current USCG Harriet Lane - Model Shipways Complete U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways New York Pilot Boat 'Phantom' 1868 - Model Shipways
GLakie Posted March 7, 2015 #357 Posted March 7, 2015 The gun-ports, planking, and stern are looking great Patrick! Glad to see you're back at it! Cheers CaptainSteve 1 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
usedtosail Posted March 7, 2015 #358 Posted March 7, 2015 Looking great, Patrick. GLakie 1 Quote - Tom - Current Build: Ochre Beagle Completed: Vanguard Speedy, Vanguard Duchess of Kingston, Stove Project, Ships Wheel Project, NRG Capstan Project, Billings Half Moon, Dumas Chris Craft 1938 27' Triple Cockpit Barrel Back, Panart Santa Lucia , Model Shipways Constitution , MS Bounty Launch , Mamoli HMS Beagle Member: Nautical Research Guild
CaptainSteve Posted March 7, 2015 #359 Posted March 7, 2015 Nice to see it all coming together, Patrick. A question (which I think I know the answer to) ... Will you be havin' six windows ... or eight ?? (PS: I'm still interested in any plans you made for the stern supports, if they are available to the general public) GLakie 1 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve
Trussben Posted March 7, 2015 #360 Posted March 7, 2015 Glad to see you back and making progress Patrick. Ben GLakie 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
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