Pete38 Posted February 15, 2013 #1 Posted February 15, 2013 The good thing about my build log is it had just started so won't take long to get back everything, just have to rember where I put the pictures. Will post later tonight! It's just good to be back. Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
Pete38 Posted February 15, 2013 Author #2 Posted February 15, 2013 Here we go. The cherry wood was given to me by a friend where I work. More than enough for this build and then some. Resized the wood to the thickness I needed and then using 3M spray adhesive, applied the frames to the wood. Cut out all the frames and stored in separate marked bags so I wouldn't get confused cristikc and isabuncu 2 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
Pete38 Posted February 15, 2013 Author #3 Posted February 15, 2013 Next started the keel, keelson and false keel. Sawed and sanded to size using my Byrnes table saw and thickness sander. When cutting the rabbit I used a razor blade shaped to the size. Before I started scrapping with the blade, since I am doing this in 1:32 scale was able to take a lot of the wast out of the rabbit with the table saw. Then I used the blade to final shape the rabbit. aviaamator, fatih79, cristikc and 1 other 4 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
Pete38 Posted February 15, 2013 Author #4 Posted February 15, 2013 Next I started building my buildboard. Using some 3/4 MDF and some shelving brackets (taken from a shelf in my garage) I used spray adhesive to attached the frame locations to the buildboard. cristikc and fatih79 2 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
Pete38 Posted February 15, 2013 Author #5 Posted February 15, 2013 Next I am going to make the frame jig I need to glue the frames up. Hopefully this weekend will have something new to post! Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
russ Posted February 16, 2013 #6 Posted February 16, 2013 Very nice and sturdy right angle jig. Good work so far. Russ T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
bbrockel Posted February 16, 2013 #7 Posted February 16, 2013 Nice slabs of cherry. Must be a good friend. Very good start on your TRITON Cross Section. "I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate " Current builds: H.M.S. TRITON Cross Section by Bbrockel - Scratch Build - Scale 1:48 US Brig Syren by Bbrockel - Model Shipways -Scale 1:64
Pete38 Posted February 16, 2013 Author #8 Posted February 16, 2013 Mark, Thanks for looking in. Russ Wanted to make sure everything would be square! Bob Real good friend, says he has about 200 board ft in the attic of a barn for the last 15 or so years. Doesn't know what to do with, so I can get more if needed. He is into blacksmithing (has his own forge, so I throw some old files and stuff his way when I find them. rek 1 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
Rustyj Posted February 17, 2013 #9 Posted February 17, 2013 Hi Pete, Well done and thanks for re-starting your build. It's great to have a friend to trade with isn't it. I recived some cherry cut offs once several years ago and I'm still using them. Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Pete38 Posted February 17, 2013 Author #10 Posted February 17, 2013 Today I finished making my frame gluing up jig. Then I started assembly of lmy first frame "c" , I have done made 3 futocks for "c" so my scap pile should be fairly large when I get done. fatih79, aviaamator and cristikc 3 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
russ Posted February 17, 2013 #11 Posted February 17, 2013 Pete: You might consider puting the papered sides facing away from each other in the finished frame. That will make it easier to see the layout lines on both sides of the frame. It will also make it easier to clean off the paper after the frames are glued up. Russ T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
sawdust Posted February 18, 2013 #12 Posted February 18, 2013 Hello Pete i am really pleased to see you have been able to almost completely salvage and restart your build log, How fortunate you are to have acess to a good supply of cherry. Old files for new cherry seems like a really good deal. I am looking forward to seeing everything "jigged up". the forum is quickly coming back to life thank goodness. Thanks for sharing And also for dropping in on me, Kip
Pete38 Posted February 22, 2013 Author #13 Posted February 22, 2013 I have finally completed my first frame!!!!!!! I am thinking about framing my frame in a frame I know there is a lot of final sanding and fitting to do to it, but it's my first... here are a few pictures of my frame Front view Side view Jorge Diaz O 1 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
Pete38 Posted February 22, 2013 Author #14 Posted February 22, 2013 Sawdust thank for dropping in. I still have to keep a check on the Sultana guys. I have not gave up on it. It sits on the shelf next to me and I will do a little on it now and then, Will have to restart my build thread on it. Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
Pete38 Posted February 22, 2013 Author #15 Posted February 22, 2013 Russ Good idea, will do that when I get to that point. Thanks Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
russ Posted February 22, 2013 #16 Posted February 22, 2013 Your first frame looks good. Nice work. Russ T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
bbrockel Posted February 23, 2013 #17 Posted February 23, 2013 Congratulations on your first frame. What are you going to name it? lol Nice work, keep it up. "I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate " Current builds: H.M.S. TRITON Cross Section by Bbrockel - Scratch Build - Scale 1:48 US Brig Syren by Bbrockel - Model Shipways -Scale 1:64
rummy Posted February 23, 2013 #18 Posted February 23, 2013 Very nice start to your build.Your frames really look nice Larry With Age Comes Wisdom,I'm Still Waiting! Current Builds:Syren.Triton Cross section. Completed Builds: Virginia by AL King of the Mississippi by AL Constellation by AL
Pete38 Posted February 24, 2013 Author #19 Posted February 24, 2013 Russ, Bob and Rummy thanks for looking in and the comments. I do have a question. I had saved the information from the old msw on treenail size's but I can not seem to find it. Does anyone have a list of treenail sizes (actual Size) that is used in the cross section build. Right now I am interested in the size to treenail the frames. I have the Book "HMS EURYALUS" by Allan Yedlinsky, and it says on the square frames a treenail size of 1" to 1 1/2" in diameter. Will this hold true for the cross section??? Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
russ Posted February 24, 2013 #20 Posted February 24, 2013 (edited) At your larger scale, you can go down to 1" and it will look good. Russ Edited February 24, 2013 by russ T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
Pete38 Posted February 24, 2013 Author #21 Posted February 24, 2013 Thanks Russ, That was the way I was leaning, Smaller is better on some details. Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
Pete38 Posted February 25, 2013 Author #22 Posted February 25, 2013 While looking through some flash drives that I had at work, I found 1 page saved from an original forum on the old MSW about treenail. This reply is credited to Russ. I hope it is okay to post it here in my log, if not let me know and I'll remove it or the moderators can. THIS IS FOR GENERAL USE ONLY AND NOT A HARD AND FAST RULE. "Okay, here is a rough set of dimensions to use for various parts of the model in the three scales. 1/48 scale Frames, no 61 bit (.039", 1mm), hull planking, no 76 bit (.020" .5mm), deck beams, knees, bitts, etc, no 68 bit (.031" .8mm), and for securing the frames and the keelson, a no 52 bit (.0625" 1.5mm) will do fine. 1/64 scale Frames, no 69 bit (.029" .75mm), hull planking, no 79 bit (.015" .4mm), deck beams, knees, bitts, etc, no 73 bit (.024" .6mm), and for securing the frames and keelson use the same 1/16" diameter bit as used in 1/48 scale. It will work fine. 1/96 scale Frames, no 76 bit (.020" .5mm), hull planking, no 80 bit (.0135" .4mm) deck beams, knees, bitts etc, no 76 bit (.020" .5mm) and for securing the frames and keelson, no 61 bit (.039" 1mm) Please, please, please keep in mind these are very rough and very general dimensions. This is a guide, not a set of hard and fast rules. So long as you are close, there should be no big problems. If you do not want to treenail your planking in 1/96 scale, that's fine, but if you do, you might want to use something a bit larger than no 80. Its the builder's choice." Long9Ron and Gabek 2 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
Matrim Posted February 25, 2013 #23 Posted February 25, 2013 That is the sort of thing that we do need to rescue as the Triton especially had a lot of great information collated by the original authors to assist. ...
Pete38 Posted February 25, 2013 Author #24 Posted February 25, 2013 I may be thinking alittle ahead here (alot) but the friend that gave me the cherry wood for 3 used files, just gave me enough maple for decking boards and ceiling All this cost me was 2 boxs of "Girls Scout Cookies" ($7.00) not to bad. So far the cost of my build is faily cheap. Hope it stays this way. Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
russ Posted February 25, 2013 #25 Posted February 25, 2013 That maple looks pretty good. I see some figure it one end of it. That might have to avoided, but I would just suggest careful selection in any event. Make sure the saw blade is sharp. I have found that maple will get burn marks if the blade is anything but sharp. Russ T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
mtaylor Posted February 26, 2013 #26 Posted February 26, 2013 Pete, If Russ agrees, put that treenail info into a new topic in the download area. I think it would be very useful to have. Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
russ Posted February 26, 2013 #27 Posted February 26, 2013 Do with that treenailing list what you will. Russ T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
Matrim Posted February 26, 2013 #28 Posted February 26, 2013 Done, I may attempt to drag some of the other stickies that were generated in the original forum. From memory there were some excellent ones on build order as well... Joss ...
Pete38 Posted February 27, 2013 Author #29 Posted February 27, 2013 Found these 2 pictures of the stern on the Triton build. Moderators move them if you want. aviaamator 1 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
42rocker Posted February 27, 2013 #30 Posted February 27, 2013 Pete38 That's some great stuff that you had put away. Thanks for printing it out and sharing it. Going to make life a lot easier. Thanks Later 42rocker Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section
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