RGL Posted July 27, 2015 Share #151 Posted July 27, 2015 Nice work Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowand Posted July 27, 2015 Share #152 Posted July 27, 2015 Geez Dave, my fat fingers aren't that nimble. Nice work!! Cheers, Rowan D. Quote Current build HMB Endeavour - AL Kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipaholic Posted July 27, 2015 Share #153 Posted July 27, 2015 Those hinges are fantastic Dave, well done Quote Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRow Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share #154 Posted July 30, 2015 Problem Huston, I hope I have done the right thing. I started having a look at the Roughtree rails while the glue was drying on the mid Airing port hinges. The Waist(front) Roughtree Rail(WRR); I laid out the rail with a stanchion height so the rail rested over the Quarterdeck Gunwale like in the AOTS and as many of the NRG MSW Endeavour builds. That makes sense to me. See Pic 01 below. However it did not look right as the rail looked too high, and where the cannons poke through the stanchions, had a high aspect whereas the AOTS has a wide aspect(wider than the height), and the rail is lower(in height). Why ? Well I kept the gunwales very low to the deck, at the change in height between the Quarterdeck and Mid decks. Too late the change now. So I lowered the waste roughtree rail 3mm. See other Pic 03 below. Not happy that the rail does not lock over the rear gunwale. There is a an Endeavour Model in the Torpedo Bay Navy Museum, Auckland, NZ that has the WRR butted to the vertical gunwale section. Maybe had the same problem. ? I don't know if I have done the right thing now ? or what else is possible to do. Gentlemen reading this post, ANY ADVICE - IDEAS ! Don't be shy. Dave R Captain Slog 1 Quote Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRow Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share #155 Posted July 30, 2015 Thanks for looking in and your kind comments on the hinge posts Greg/s, Rohan and Steve. My fingers were too big, going the way of jigs and using tweezers helping a lot. Dave R Quote Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipaholic Posted July 30, 2015 Share #156 Posted July 30, 2015 Hi Dave Does this help? It's the draught that the AOTS references Quote Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted July 30, 2015 Share #157 Posted July 30, 2015 Hi Dave, I agree with Steve. It's hard to argue with primary evidence/information cheers Pat RGL 1 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRow Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share #158 Posted July 31, 2015 Hi Paul/Steve/Pat, I agree the roughtree rail should rest over the quarter rail. I want it too. However the aspect between the stanchions threw me, it didn't look right, I wasn't happy - help!. But having a closer look at the draft you posted Steve, gave me a thought. The draft roughtree rail looks quiet thick. Thicker than the gunwale. I have my gunwales 2mm(at 1:60 = 120mm) and the roughtree rail at 2mm thick, so if the rail was to go to say 3mm(180mm) maybe it would work out a bit better. So temp. I added 1mm onto it and compared to the draft - Pic below. Bit of fiddling and I reckon I can live with this solution. Great you guys throwing the 10 cents in. Has helped me come up with a solution. Dave R Quote Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted August 1, 2015 Share #159 Posted August 1, 2015 G'day Dave Thought this might be a help to you. The replica in Sydney has about 40mm gunwales and 180 to 200mm rougtreerails. The stern roughtreerails are about 120mm. See photo Havagooday Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRow Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share #160 Posted August 4, 2015 Hi Greg, I have that photo. One of the many you sent link for me to download - remember. I went with the thicker 3mm deep(180mm) for the mid roughtree rail. Bevelled the top like in AOTS so it did not look so chunky. When you say the stern roughtree 120mm, you refer to the roughtree rail over the stern ? Pic below. Glue is drying on the mid rails, will post Pic when it is set hard. Dave R robin b 1 Quote Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted August 4, 2015 Share #161 Posted August 4, 2015 G'day Dave That is what I was talking about. Haveagreatone mate Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRow Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share #162 Posted August 13, 2015 Hello Shipmates, Seems a while that my shipyard has posted an update. Been busy making the stanchions and Roughtree rails. Each stanchion bottom double bevelled, length tapered, top double notched. A few pictures of where we are at for now. Each stanchion is pinned to the gunwale, the top notched to slip into the rebated Roughtree rail. A lot of work but assembling and aligning worked out very well. I have the stern Rougtree rail gluing at the moment(pic), she is double curved to sweep over the Taffarel and join either side Roughtree rail. Probably join as the replica is. The rails have been a welcome distraction from the airing ports. Dave R Bobstrake, robin b, UdoK and 4 others 7 Quote Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted August 13, 2015 Share #163 Posted August 13, 2015 Those rails look fantastic Dave, nicely done. Did you use kit supplied pieces or make your own? Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRow Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share #164 Posted August 14, 2015 Hi Jason, I made all the pieces from stock strips supplied in the Kit. Mostly from 3mm x 3mm and 4mm x 1mm. From a previous post, the Roughtree rails are rebated to take the stanchions. Dave R Cabbie, Captain Slog and Beef Wellington 3 Quote Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRow Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share #165 Posted August 16, 2015 Roughtree Update shipmates. I snapped a shot of the rear deck stanchions just before I glued the top Roughtree rail on. All the tops notched to provide a firm fit into the rail. Very pleased with this method. Have moved onto the stern rail now. I finally glued my stern window piece onto the boat. I made this piece months ago and although some more details to go on, need it firmly in place to fit the stern Roughtree on. Am preparing the rail, taking into account the curvatures(horiz & vert.) and the joints either side. Nice challenge. I am planning to fix the rail over/onto the side rails like the replica, bit of a tight curve at the ends. As they say, that's the plan. Dave R UdoK, GuntherMT, Captain Slog and 1 other 4 Quote Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRow Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share #166 Posted August 18, 2015 Thanks for looking in at the progress guys. The stern Roughtree is now on, another step forward. Below is a picture of the clamping on the stern rail whilst the glue dries, does your clamping look like this at times? The rounded ends of the rail sit inside the swivel Gun Stock(one of the pics below shows how this will look) Each of the long side rails have another 1mm to add on top of the rail. I left that off thinking it would be easier to bend the 2mm rail to follow the gunwale(that worked fine). The 1mm will butt up to the curved end of the stern rail, so it won't be a 2mm step only 1mm. That should look fine. Added a bit of black to the stanchions - looking better. One should contemplate doing the deck fit-out before doing too much more to the hull, working over the rails. Dave R Captain Slog, Zarkon, rowand and 4 others 7 Quote Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowand Posted August 19, 2015 Share #167 Posted August 19, 2015 Great work Dave!! Cheers, Rowan D. Quote Current build HMB Endeavour - AL Kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRow Posted August 25, 2015 Author Share #168 Posted August 25, 2015 Shipyard Update, The build has been constructing the Chess-trees. Each is a lamination of 3 x 1mm layers to make the 1mm slot for a sheeve. Plus a small piece on the back to fit between the gunwale and sheer strake. I want to use a 3mm dia sheeve that 1mm thick, haven't got one yet !. Searching. The other action in the yard is adding the skids to either side of the hull. I first glued a 1mm deep layer onto the hull, which serves as a base for a further 1mm skid. Pictures below. Working on the Tack Fairleads next. Dave R Beef Wellington, UdoK, Captain Slog and 3 others 6 Quote Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted August 25, 2015 Share #169 Posted August 25, 2015 Nice progress Dave cheers Pat Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRow Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share #170 Posted August 27, 2015 Tack Fairleads completed. This is the Starboard one, recessed into the gunwale. I've laminated some timber strips for the Timberheads. Generally they look to be 3mm x 4mm in section, all on the gunwale in the AOTS. However I noticed on the Replica in Sydney, some are on the inside of the aft gunwales(4 per side it looks like). Dave R Beef Wellington, Cabbie, GuntherMT and 1 other 4 Quote Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipaholic Posted August 27, 2015 Share #171 Posted August 27, 2015 Dave, your work is fantastic, great attention to detail. I'll be up your way next week. Cheers Steve DaveRow 1 Quote Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted August 27, 2015 Share #172 Posted August 27, 2015 I'm going to start an Endeavour soon, it will be good having all these other logs and fine modelling minds to annoy with lots of questions! Thanks Chris DaveRow 1 Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRow Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share #173 Posted August 29, 2015 Thanks for looking in on the build log from my shipyard guys. Your likes and comments encourage me. Not much going on this weekend, I have a volunteer job at a canteen I a run for a Rugby carnival. Then Wednesday have a Carpal Tunnel Op on the left hand. That may slow me up a bit for work on the Endeavour for a while as well. Plenty of time to plan work ahead though. Dave R Quote Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff Posted August 29, 2015 Share #174 Posted August 29, 2015 I hope the Op goes well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted August 31, 2015 Share #175 Posted August 31, 2015 Good luck with the Op Dave; all going well you will be back with greater flexibility and producing even nicer stuff cheers Pat Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted August 31, 2015 Share #176 Posted August 31, 2015 G'day Dave Good luck on your op, hope you're right handed. It's a bummer if you are a lefty! All the best mate Haveasafeopmate Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowand Posted September 1, 2015 Share #177 Posted September 1, 2015 Good luck with it Dave, Cheers, Rowan D. Quote Current build HMB Endeavour - AL Kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRow Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share #178 Posted September 2, 2015 PaulV, Went fully under. Split next week. Hope I am not out of action for too long. Dave R Quote Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRow Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share #179 Posted September 25, 2015 Back on deck SMs. One left hand coming along slowly after the cut(Carpal T). Just takes time to heal, otherwise raring to go. Had to do something though: Installed the Airing Ports I had made some time ago. Very fiddly work being so small. Dave R Philthy, Mike Dowling, Cabbie and 5 others 8 Quote Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted September 25, 2015 Share #180 Posted September 25, 2015 Its looking good David, that is some very delicate work on those hinges. I will have to go back and see how you made them. cheers Chris DaveRow 1 Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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