Chuck Seiler Posted September 27, 2015 Share #241 Posted September 27, 2015 (edited) Aw maaaaaaaan. The model is at work. I'm going to have to look at the map...er, ah plans. I'll be right back. Edited September 27, 2015 by Chuck Seiler mtaylor, Canute and dgbot 3 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Seiler Posted September 27, 2015 Share #242 Posted September 27, 2015 Steve, They come down to the top tree trestles ( I think that's what they are called. Since army guys built it, they are call "those thingies that stick out at the top of the fat pole".) I notched the ends and let them run free. From there, they are secured to the main shrouds at the futtock stave. On the starboard side, it is the top rung. On the port side it would be directly across....the only rung (watch out for that next step!!!) Gotta go. Dr. Who is on! Canute, bebopsteve and mtaylor 3 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebopsteve Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share #243 Posted October 13, 2015 So, thinking ahead, I see that model expo has the Rattlesnake on sale for $119... I was thinking about it for a future build. Any thoughts or ideas on this kit? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Seiler Posted October 13, 2015 Share #244 Posted October 13, 2015 I like the RATTLESNAKE a lot. Really nice lines. I have the kit, but Chuck said if I start any more build logs, he is going to.... well, it wouldn't be pretty. I would recommend it. There are enough people who HAVE started build logs on it that you would have plenty of help. mtaylor, bebopsteve and Canute 3 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebopsteve Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share #245 Posted October 14, 2015 Thanks Chuck! I might pull the trigger on it since seems like a good deal. I was even thinking of Not painting it. Stains only. What do you think? Almost done with rigging Philly. I am surprised, looking better than I thought. I will post some pics soon. Oh and just starting rails and awning. Chuck Seiler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Seiler Posted October 15, 2015 Share #246 Posted October 15, 2015 I am a big fan of not painting,but in this case I think some painting is needed. If you go with the basic basswood, golden oak is a good color for above the wales. Chuck P has had alot of success with that. Personally, I would go with boxwood for above the wales and holly for deck. I have a Byrnes Saw and regularly cut my planks. However, buying pre-cut 'lumber' is an option in this case. Generally, in my experience, planks above the wale don't require much in the way of spiling, so no fancy cutting is needed. What are your plans for coloring the wale (black)? In the past I have tried wood dye and india ink. I used the latter for my SULTANA with good result. For PROVIDENCE I am trying the method Chuck P and some others have mentioned-coachman style. (See his CONFEDERACY and/or WINCHELSEA build logs. Here, you use many (10 or so) very thin coats (watery) of paint with buffing in between coats. When done right, it is fantastic. I tried it on the transom of PROVIDENCE. Below the wale? One PROVIDENCE I am experimenting with holly, to simulate white stuff. Since many ships of this era seem to 'white stuff' below the wale rather than below the waterline, it is a bit easier. The downside is that you planking has to be perfect. Planking a ship like RATTLESNAKE is alot harder than PHILADELPHIA. For SULTANA, I planked the best I could, used wood filler to fill the imperfections, then painted using a cream colored spray paint. (I don't like stark white) Anywho, my thoughts. Looking thru the archives, there are alot of RS build logs. Once you start yours there will be plenty of folks who will tune in and provide input. bebopsteve, Canute, Ryland Craze and 1 other 4 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebopsteve Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share #247 Posted October 15, 2015 Thanks for the info Chuck! Here are a few pics of Philly as of today.. GuntherMT, mtaylor, Tadeusz43 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebopsteve Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share #248 Posted October 15, 2015 The fore rails are not permanent yet. I am going to adjust the rigging, get it solid and then start awning. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted October 15, 2015 Share #249 Posted October 15, 2015 Looking good Steve. From what I can see you did a swell job. David B Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebopsteve Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share #250 Posted October 15, 2015 Thanks David! Just received Syren rigging rope today. (I had ran out) Rigging is done! Is it best to tie the lines to the cleats like a real situation? I am thinking to Not secure to the cleats with any glue. Anyone want to give me a tutorial on securing the lines? Thanks! mtaylor and Chuck Seiler 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuntherMT Posted October 15, 2015 Share #251 Posted October 15, 2015 I secured my lines to cleats just like you would on a real boat, then after all the rigging was done I went through and adjusted everything how I wanted, then coated all the cleat and other belaying points in 50/50 white glue/water mixture to secure them, and after it dried and I was ready to drop the rope coils over them, trimmed the line up close and placed the rope coils. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebopsteve Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share #252 Posted October 16, 2015 Cool. Thanks Brian! Canute 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebopsteve Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share #253 Posted October 28, 2015 Getting the anchors installed. I really like the rope from Syren. Anyway, few pics... Canute, GuntherMT, Gahm and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebopsteve Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share #254 Posted October 29, 2015 Lots of touch up work to do.... Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Seiler Posted October 30, 2015 Share #255 Posted October 30, 2015 Steve, Looking great!!! Your starboard shrouds/ladder look real good. The close up shots are nice. It brings out the details. You have really done a great job. Forward rail: Did you bend it of cut it curved? I don't see the metal support wrap holding the mast to the crossbeam. Am I missing something or are you adding that later? Are you bringing this down to San Diego next year? mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebopsteve Posted October 31, 2015 Author Share #256 Posted October 31, 2015 Hey Chuck thanks! The rail was already curved from the kit. I used epoxy to secure it. The metal mast ring is ready to install. Hopefully San Diego, but transporting it would be a nightmare lol!. I will try and post some more pics after I place the cannoballs! mtaylor, Canute and dgbot 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Seiler Posted October 31, 2015 Share #257 Posted October 31, 2015 DOH!!!!! That shows you how far I got with the kit. bebopsteve, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebopsteve Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share #258 Posted November 2, 2015 Hey Chuck, got the cannonballs in place.. GuntherMT, mtaylor, Ian B and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebopsteve Posted November 6, 2015 Author Share #259 Posted November 6, 2015 Starting to dry fit the awning structure... mtaylor, GuntherMT, Ryland Craze and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebopsteve Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share #260 Posted November 9, 2015 I stained the awning pieces, dry fit. I might epoxy them in tonite. mtaylor, GuntherMT, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebopsteve Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share #261 Posted November 9, 2015 So Chuck, I am getting the thing done. I am into it a year and 3 months. Crazy huh? Canute and Chuck Seiler 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Seiler Posted November 10, 2015 Share #262 Posted November 10, 2015 That's not bad. I took me a little over a year to do my Philly 1, but that included some down time AND some pretty intense time (5+ hours a day, including 1 all nighter the day before I had to get it to the Fair). Burn out!!! You are over a year into the model and you are still working on it. CHECK. You are almost finished. CHECK You are still relatively sane (or at least no less so that when you started). CHECK Congratulations...you are an official certified (certifiable) ship modeler!!!! Seriously, though, you are doing great. I regret that I didn't stick with it and build at the same pace. Do you think you will be able to bring it to San Diego next year? mtaylor, bebopsteve and Canute 3 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebopsteve Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share #263 Posted November 10, 2015 I cant say for sure on San Diego at this time.. However it would be a perfect thing to do some music gigs down there at the same time. Kind of tie it all together. There is a club in San Diego called Croces Park West that we might play. How is it possible to transport a model on a plane? Canute, mtaylor, Chuck Seiler and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Seiler Posted November 11, 2015 Share #264 Posted November 11, 2015 I am sure there are some folks here who have done it. I'm not one. I don't even transport myself on a plane if I can help it. Something about sardines. bebopsteve, dgbot, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebopsteve Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share #265 Posted November 11, 2015 No kidding!. mtaylor, Chuck Seiler and Canute 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebopsteve Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share #266 Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Getting the Awning structure in place. Getting close! Anybody have any plans or ideas for a display case? Edited November 17, 2015 by Steve.Y GuntherMT, mtaylor and dgbot 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebopsteve Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share #267 Posted November 17, 2015 Its funny. Doing the build is pretty easy if you take your time...The hard thing is figuring a way to STOP bumping into the rigging. I am always snagging the lines with tweezers or smacking the spars with my face... crazy!! dgbot, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebopsteve Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share #268 Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) A few more pics..rudder installed..now make the oars, touch up detail work..then figure out display plan.. Edited November 21, 2015 by Steve.Y mtaylor, Canute, Ryland Craze and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Seiler Posted November 22, 2015 Share #269 Posted November 22, 2015 Its funny. Doing the build is pretty easy if you take your time...The hard thing is figuring a way to STOP bumping into the rigging. I am always snagging the lines with tweezers or smacking the spars with my face... crazy!! You get better at managing it once you poked yourself in the eye or broke an important piece off. It get more interesting when you get to the more complicated masting and rigging plans. Go in to the various logs and see the correct order to rig the ship and (2) get some long tweezers. bebopsteve and Canute 2 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebopsteve Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share #270 Posted November 22, 2015 Well I got the long tweezers. I just need to slow down and be aware of surroundings.. Oh to be clumsy! mtaylor, Chuck Seiler, dgbot and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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