michael mott Posted August 13, 2014 #31 Posted August 13, 2014 Looks great Pete, is this one balsa? Ive lost track Michael pete48 1 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
MEDDO Posted August 13, 2014 #32 Posted August 13, 2014 Pete, sailing on any sailboat is amazing! pete48 1 Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL
pete48 Posted August 13, 2014 Author #33 Posted August 13, 2014 Hi Michael, That's funny , I am happy with the start Hi Michael ( MEDDO ) Sailing is amazing ( on any boat ) I agree , This one is pretty extreme Best Rgards, Pete Elmer Cornish, piperjoe and flying_dutchman2 3 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
pete48 Posted August 13, 2014 Author #34 Posted August 13, 2014 Hi Crckers, I see that you are a fellow Spud ( for those that don't know , if you live in Idaho you are a Spud) Welcome aboard. I will be trueing up the frames and installing them today. I just discovered these boats a few weeks ago . it's nothing like I have ever built before , Should be fun Best Regards, Pete Elmer Cornish and Piet 2 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
michael mott Posted August 13, 2014 #35 Posted August 13, 2014 I wonder how these boats would look without all the fractured advertizing all over them, just simple colours to accent their shapes and high tech materials. I think they would look far superior. but that is just me. On the other hand imagine a 1930's J class yacht covered in "Pears Soaps", "Colemans", "Indian Motorcycles" or "Liptons" Somehow I just can't picture it! Michael Jay 1, pete48 and captainbob 3 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
pete48 Posted August 13, 2014 Author #36 Posted August 13, 2014 Hi Michael, Advertising on a J-boat, does not work for me . I am going to use the same Blue on the Hull that I used on Stars & Stripes, with a White Deck , Yellow accents and Flat Black on the Spars , Rudder Blades and Keel , She should look pretty good Color wise . Best Regards, Pete Piet, Elmer Cornish, Jay 1 and 2 others 5 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
flying_dutchman2 Posted August 13, 2014 #37 Posted August 13, 2014 Looking good already. Makes it look so easy the way you are building this boat. Seems building these boats is a hit as there are several sites that show others building them as well. This Aussie has a beautiful build log from the "Volvo 70 Ericsson" http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-sailboats-89/8076736-volvo-70-ericsson-build-log.html Marc pete48 1 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
pete48 Posted August 14, 2014 Author #38 Posted August 14, 2014 Thank you Marc, I will have to look into that , I like the look of the Ericsson Boat , she's pretty sweet Best Regards, Pete Elmer Cornish, Piet, flying_dutchman2 and 1 other 4 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
pete48 Posted August 14, 2014 Author #39 Posted August 14, 2014 Another great day with the Boat ( day 2 ) I started by making the Keel slot and Mast step in the Back Bone, I then trued up the frames and installed them. Next I made the deck and installed it. I then faired the frames for about 3 hours and started Planking ( my favorite part of the build ) Iinstalled the first 2 rows of planking, She's going together like Butter. I glued everything together with Titebond 3.( it's Waterproof ) Next will be to finish planking the Hull , and get her ready for West System Epoxy. She's an Amazingly fun boat to build . Here are the results hexnut, mtaylor, Jay 1 and 7 others 10 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
Omega1234 Posted August 14, 2014 #40 Posted August 14, 2014 Hi Pete. Extreme sailing with an extreme boat. When I look at your photos of the hull, i can't help but think 'who thought of designing a boat with a massive flat and broad rear, coupled with a knife thin bow!' Seems like it'd never work, but, hey, obviously it does because, as you've said, these are extreme racers. Fast and nice! pete48 1 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora
pete48 Posted August 14, 2014 Author #41 Posted August 14, 2014 Thanks Geoff, I try not to disappoint , She's practically building herself Hi Omega, it's a very intresting design, it looks like the front half of a larger boat. It's alot easier to Build than an America's Cup Boat . It's almost a hard chine with a round bilge . Here is a shot of her upside down so you can see the Keel slot , I also brushed on Titebond 3 to the under side of the deck and frames Best Regards, Pete Piet, Aussie048, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
michael mott Posted August 14, 2014 #42 Posted August 14, 2014 Great Speed on your progress Pete, I'm beginning to feel like a snail in the model making world. Michael Jay 1 and pete48 2 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
pete48 Posted August 14, 2014 Author #43 Posted August 14, 2014 Thank's Michael, She's moving along at a good pace. I should have the planking finished tomorrow Best Regards, Pete Elmer Cornish, piperjoe, flying_dutchman2 and 1 other 4 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
capnharv2 Posted August 14, 2014 #44 Posted August 14, 2014 Pete, I just stumbled on this build. It will be a lot of fun to watch (and build)! I'm sitting here, thinking about making a boat like this RC, and wondering what a functioning canting keel would do on the model. Unfortunately, I don't know how the canting keel and planing hull scale down on the model, but it would be pretty cool to get the RC model on plane! Both the VOR and Vendee Globe are way beyond my meager sailing abilities, but they're fascinating, regardless. If you're interested, a good book on the Vendee Globe is Godforsaken Sea by Derek Lundy, describing the 1996 Vendee Globe race. I enjoyed it a lot. Have fun! We will! Thanks, Harvey pete48 1 Quote
pete48 Posted August 14, 2014 Author #45 Posted August 14, 2014 Hi Harvey, I just stumbled on to these Boats a few weeks ago, I have seen rc versions of the Volvo Boats,( very impressive ) However they do not have the Canting Keel, Mine wont either. she will free sail with out RC ( Like my Herreshoff Buzzars Bay ) I will be doing an RC Boat next ( BMW ORACLE RACING USA-98 ) It's good to hear from you again Best Regards, Pete flying_dutchman2, Elmer Cornish and Piet 3 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
pete48 Posted August 14, 2014 Author #46 Posted August 14, 2014 Here is a shot of my Shipyard this morning at 8:00 am , this gives you am idea of how different this boat is when compared to a Cup boat. Aussie048, Piet, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
captainbob Posted August 14, 2014 #47 Posted August 14, 2014 I’m with Omega1234, that design is all wrong and can’t possibly be fast. But hey, it’s hard to argue with success. It will be fun to watch her sail. Bob Omega1234 and pete48 2 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray
pete48 Posted August 14, 2014 Author #48 Posted August 14, 2014 Hi Cap'n'Bob, She's a different kind of a Bird, thats for sure , I was amazed to see them sail , and Bam I am hooked Best Regards, Pete flying_dutchman2 1 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
pete48 Posted August 15, 2014 Author #49 Posted August 15, 2014 Today was another Great day with the Boat. I started by pre soaking my planking material 1 hour before start. I then finished planking the Hull, I am pleased with the results. this Boat has been extremly Fun to build , ( I would recomend it ) I then started Fairing the Hull, I will finish Fairing the Hull in the morning . She's coming out right on the numbers . Here are the results Aussie048, Elmer Cornish, RichardG and 9 others 12 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
capnharv2 Posted August 15, 2014 #50 Posted August 15, 2014 Pete, Looks good! One thing I'm surprised by is the hard chine on the hull. I had always thought the hull was completely round. I'm curious what the hard chine does. Additional stability (along with daggerboard) when heeled? I'm also curious what the optimum heel angle is for speed when sailing close hauled. Perhaps the chine adds to WL length at optimum heel angle. Thanks! Harvey pete48 1 Quote
michael mott Posted August 15, 2014 #51 Posted August 15, 2014 Looks great Pete. looking forward to seeing the paint on it. Michael pete48 1 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
rottger Posted August 15, 2014 #52 Posted August 15, 2014 Harvey, These boats are all about creating maximum stability. This quest for stability gives you more hull area (and resistance when upright). They have however so much sail area that this is only a real handicap in light and upwind situations. The rest of the time they use their brute power to plane to the horizon! To understand the chine, you think of a boat much wider as is practical or allowed by the rules. You get a flatter more powerful shape. then you chop off the parts of the hull that are not allowed. You end up with a shape that acts as if it was a wider boat. As these boats are optimized for ocean racing they do not sail upwind with fine angles often, they sail a bit lower under the assumption the the wind will change anyhow in the next day(s). The topspeed of these boats can reach almost 40 knots with an average of 24 knots! Hans pete48 1 Quote
capnharv2 Posted August 15, 2014 #53 Posted August 15, 2014 Hans, Thank you for your explanation, although I have to admit, it will take me some time to comprehend it all. I hope you don't mind if I throw out a few questions and assumptions to get on the correct track. I'm used to thinking of chines as a (kind of) stability point at a certain angle of heel. In the case of an El Toro dinghy (which I used to sail) and a Star (which I haven't sailed much), the heeling angle when the boat is on its chine is a more stable point than most heeling angles. Is that correct? I also remember that increased heeling angles (on displacement racing hulls) provides a longer waterline, which increases hull speed (which is why I thought racing sailboats of the 20's and 30's had such long overhangs). But waterline length on a planing hull doesn't help (IIRC), because you want to minimize wetted area. I looked up some of the measurements of the Open 70's. I see the beam is 5.7m. If I understand correctly, is the basic hull design much wider than this, but surfaces are created to cut the beam to 5.7m, thus creating the chine? Please note that I'm not an NA or Marine Engineer, but I've been fascinated with sailing hull design for a long time. Generally, I know just enough to be dangerous Thanks, Harvey pete48 1 Quote
rottger Posted August 15, 2014 #54 Posted August 15, 2014 Harvey, On light displacement boats (with a wide a...) you want them to heel to minimize wetted surface. I don't think that a chine is a sudden increase in RM (righting moment) but you want the boat to have the chine on the surface. The water will flow of the chine with enough speed. Increasing heeling angles does work wonders with long overhangs as you wrote, but these modern boats are vertical ended so not much change there. Waterline length on a planning boat does not help, but as you are also not plaining, a longer boat will usually be better. Simplified you explained the design process, but i think that the tooling is now evolved and more specialized, as are the architects. I am not a architect either, but I sailed a lot on modern racers and now sail a proto Mini Transat 650 solo. These Transat boats could be seen as mini V70's with canting keel, asym. daggerboarts, waterballast, twin rudders etc,but then sailed solo! Hans pete48, capnharv2 and mtaylor 3 Quote
capnharv2 Posted August 15, 2014 #55 Posted August 15, 2014 Thanks Hans. I admire these boats (and their crew) from a distance. I'll stick with my old gaffer (Friendship Sloop). But for grins, I Googled Mini Transat 650 so I have an idea what you've been sailing. Looks fast to me! Thanks again, Harvey Elmer Cornish, pete48 and flying_dutchman2 3 Quote
pete48 Posted August 15, 2014 Author #56 Posted August 15, 2014 Than's Geoff, Planking is one of my favorite parts of the build, I am pleased with how it turned out Thank 's Harvey, She's starting to take shape, I did find an RC model with the Canting Keel made by Stockmaritime here is the link to the site :n http://stockmaritime.com/modellboote/vo/allgemein.php?lang=en_GB&id_bilder=393163 Hi Michael, I am happy with the colors that I have chosen , and can't wait to see her in those colors Thank you Hans, For providing a great wealth of knowledge on these Volvo Boats, I appreciate it , the Mini Transat 650 looks to be a fast boat, and looks like alot of fuin to sail. Best Regards, Pete flying_dutchman2, Elmer Cornish, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
rottger Posted August 15, 2014 #57 Posted August 15, 2014 Harvey, Funny that of all the mini pictures available you showed this one! 713 is the old boat of 2 very good friends. Later (in 2011) they where the first married couple to sail the Mini Transat Race (each solo in their own boat!), a very special achievement. I hope to make a model of my own mini 595 but I have some full scale projects for that boat in progress! Pete, the mini is a lot of fun if you can handle it. Upwind they are fast for a 6.5m yacht, but reaching and running is where the fun starts. They have up to 135 m2 sail area running for a 700-800 kg boat! I like your Volvo model, good progress! Hans pete48 and capnharv2 2 Quote
Piet Posted August 15, 2014 #58 Posted August 15, 2014 Wow Pete, your planking looks awesome. I can see that you like planking, it shows. Cheers. pete48 1 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)
pete48 Posted August 16, 2014 Author #59 Posted August 16, 2014 Thank you Hans, The Mini sounds very impressive , Best of luck with your full scale project Thank you Piet, I could plank Boats all day ,for me It's then that the Boat starts to take shape Best Regards, Pete Elmer Cornish, Piet and piperjoe 3 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
pete48 Posted August 16, 2014 Author #60 Posted August 16, 2014 Today, another great day , We had a thunder storm and lost power early this morning , so I spent the day getting the Hull faired. The boat is actually a little more complicated than originally talked about .I then decided that I would do somthing different with the cabin , I made a mock up out of paper once I was happy with it, I made one out of Basswood. I then started making the Bowsprit , ( I taped it together and to the boat for the pic's) The cabin is not attached and is positioned for the pic's. Here are the results Piet, capnharv2, Elmer Cornish and 7 others 10 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
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