Charles W Morgan Whaleboat by Salty Sea Dog - Artesania Latina - Scale 1:25 - POF - first wooden boat build - SMALL

[Salty Sea Dog]

10) Harpoons:

 

Augie and Matti - Thanks for answering my S.O.S. -sorry my plea for help was not more clearly written. I was in a panic and wrote that after dinner last night and had already spent 1-1/2 hours just to get the rope work shown in that picture. I went after it again after dinner and finished it late last night. It was a little over 6 hours to make the 6 wrapped connections. This isn't normal is it? I'm thinking that I won't live long enough to rig something like the Wasa! Most of the time though was to allow glue to set with 3 steps of gluing on the ends with loops and 2 steps in the middle wraps. I have a little clean up work and touch-up on the metal coloring still to do. I have to go to work in a bit and wanted to make this post to say thanks and explain better what I was trying to do.

 

Here's a piictorial sequence of the harpoon construction. The metal was filed and shaped quite a bit before attaching it to the wood with medium CA glue. The wood is finished with shellac.

 

 

Metal blackened with Perma Blue.

 

Here's yesterday's post after fumbling around for 1-1/2 hours with the rope.

 

Nearly done -just some minor touch-up left.

 

One last question: Is it ok to use Johnston's paste wax on threads or do I need to find some beeswax? I'm trying to 'convince' the rope to coil nicely in the line tubs. 

[augie]

Ok.... now I see what you had to do.  You did it well ...... nice job.  Those black bands are whipping and yours look good.  Never tried Johnsons on line but there's only one way to find out if it works  .  My uneducated guess is that it will but you won't know the long term effects from the other chemicals in the formulation.  But you can get beeswax from Model Expo in a handy little plastic case or you can find it at many craft stores.  Beeswax is very pure chemically and will not damage rigging over time (ordinary parafin will).

 

Now......lines.  For the record, I HATE working with lines but here it's an occupational hazard.  I fight with them, curse them, try to make them do what I need.  It just takes patience and listening to the line.  If it wants to twist left and you want it to go right, turn it over...play with it.  You need to bend to it's wishes a little and the wax will help.  Rest assured that evrything I do with line follows the same path........

 

1)  The first try is no good whatsoever

2) The second is usualy acceptable but takes me 1 1/2 hours, no matter how simple

3)  By the time I get to the 6th time, it  takes 6.13 minutes (or less).

 

Patience and practice is all you can do.  You did the right thing by walking away for a bit, letting off some steam and then coming back with a fresh outlook.

 

All that said........    BEAUTIFUL JOB

[Shazmira]

So sorry it took me so long to finally read your log Buck. To say I am impressed is an understatement of gigantic magnitude!!!

 

I am so happy you live in Kansas....you just might receive a visitor for some tutoring on how to do this finish properly.

 

My hat off to you, you truly are an artist

[Salty Sea Dog]

So Augie, are there certain swear words that work best or does it require a string of cuss words in specific order to complete a rigging task? Do different tasks require a different order? I have not seen anything in the help guides on what seems to be an essential skill requirement.

 

My wife is into the sewing arts and has some "Thread Heaven" which she says is recommended in her world more than beeswax. I'll give it a try and report back.

 

Hi Shaz! Thanks for dropping by my build and your kind words -they are appreciated!

[cog]

Buck,

 

I feel I'll just be repeating others from the forum ... Outstanding job!

 

"Thread Heaven" sounds a bit like turning you into a seamstress

[JPett]

Ahoy Buck

 

I'll do the broken record thing

 

"Outstanding"

 

Your craftsmanship is amazing

 

 

 

WASA, WASA , WASA

Edited May 4, 2013 by JPett

[augie]

Oh no.....your wife too?  Mine is a weaver and quilter.  Takes up 1/2 my shop with her looms.  Took a look at Thread Heaven and have no idea what's in it.  But, they did compare it to beeswax so I'm sure they know what they're doing.  Let us know how it works

 

Now as far as the chants involved, I'm afraid to post them on MSW as the post Police might put me 'on report'.  However, for some reason the tirade always begins with 'Oh _ _ _ _ !  You're on your own from there

[Salty Sea Dog]

Hi Carl! Thanks for stopping by. Your little Sea Witch is the coolest! I don't know about being a seamstress, but my wife is going to show me how to use a sewing machine so i can make the sail!

 

Hi JP!  I had the lid off the Wasa kit and was looking over the plans... Nope, not ready to go there yet!

 

Hi Augie- My wife is quilting as I type! I got some beeswax yesterday and did a comparison with the Thread Heaven today. I like the beeswax better.

 

 I am familiar with that "Oh _ _ _ _!" tirade. I have used it when I'm wrenching out in the garage. Usually after a little circlip whizzes off to hide somewhere!   

Edited May 6, 2013 by Salty Sea Dog

[augie]

Hi Carl! Thanks for stopping by. Your little Sea Witch is the coolest! I don't know about being a seamstress, but my wife is going to show me how to use a sewing machine so i can make the sail!

 

Hi JP!  I had the lid of the Wasa kit and was looking over the plans... Nope, not ready to go there yet!

 

Hi Augie- My wife is quilting as I type! I got some beeswax yesterday and did a comparison with the Thread Heaven today. I like the beeswax better.

 

 I am familiar with that "Oh _ _ _ _!" tirade. I have used it when I'm wrenching out in the garage. Usually after a little circlip whizzes off to hide somewhere!   

Aint wives great?  Mine is also a weaver and the darned alpacas keep chewing on my rigging    

[JPett]

_{Hi JP!  I had the lid of the Wasa kit and was looking over the plans... Nope, not ready to go there yet}

 

_{Ahoy Buck}

 

_{If you're ready, it's the wrong kit}

[Salty Sea Dog]

_{Ahoy Buck}

 

_{If you're ready, it's the wrong kit}

Lol JP! - You sound just like the little voice in my ear! - the one from the little guy with the pitchfork!

Edited May 6, 2013 by Salty Sea Dog

[md1400cs]

Buck,

 

Aways such a pleasure catching up on your progress. You're also amazing with miniature tools of the trade. Super nice details on your latest -- harpoons (:-)

 

Just don't practice in your fish tank, if you have one!?

 

Regards, Michael

[JPett]

Ahoy Buck

 

Thats not a pitchfork

 

He's trying to hand you something to open the box and get started

[Salty Sea Dog]

Ahoy Buck

 

Thats not a pitchfork

 

He's trying to hand you something to open the box and get started

 

Now that's funny!

 

I was going to wait until later, but these are the 4 kits in the running for the next build. I would appreciate opinions on what you all think I should tackle next. I was thinking about progressively working through more difficult projects, but the Golden Hind would be a jump to the deep end instead of wading through less complicated builds first. Dirk's (Dubz) Revenue Cutter Alert build has me pretty excited about the Dallas though... 

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/700-usrc-alert-by-dubz-revenue-cutter-done/

I really like the trawler and the pinky but the Golden Hind would be a more useful 'stepping stone' to develop the skills that would be needed on the Wasa. So which should it be?

 

 

 

 

[JPett]

Ahoy Buck

 

I really like the little guy, “Misty”  lots of hardware, which you do very well, but it is a bit to much like the whaleboat in this respect

Then there is Dallas, looks like a nice little build, but then so is the Eagle

Got it: Go with the big one. Start it and when you feel like it is getting a little stale, which the bigger, longer projects can, start one of the smaller ones as a side project to keep it fresh, then finish the Golden Hind.

 

You can do the other two while you are working on the other big one

 

Just my two cents, but I like interludes, and understand some don’t

[augie]

I can't speak for Mamoli kits but, given the choices, I'd go for the Golden Hind.  Particularly since your goal is the Wasa, she will give you the most translatable experience.

[themadchemist]

Galleon hands down.

You have the skill and what you dont have you will develop.

Its time to step past that line of float things at 1/2 pool and slip into deeper water. Plus Galleons are one of my favorite ship designs. If you build the Hind, you'll then be ready for the Wasa... of course you might want to send me the Wasa for safe keeping until you get around to it  

[hexnut]

First of all, congratulations on the whaleboat and detail completion. You have a true showpiece! 

 

My vote would be the Dallas.  If you can do that nice a job on a harpoon, I can't wait to see what you do with a carronade...

[bgarden]

I don't know why no one has put their vote behind the beautiful 1750 Eagle.  Wow, she has great lines and a stern on her like no other, I mean baby's got back!  Plus knowing your skills Buck, your wood working would make that model look ten times, maybe even eleven times great then the box would suggest.  WIth that said I would put a very close second vote behind the Hind.

 

Brian 

[themadchemist]

Wow I'm glad I was giving that eagle a closer look.

Scuppers! I need to get them drilled in the DSotM. How'd I forget. maybe I was waiting for stanchion placement...

I love the smaller fish vessels and the Eagle is a ccol little ship. The Misty is another detailed deck that would be nice to see Bucks skill let loose on.

and funny thing on the Dallas, there are 2 on ebay ATM, when I first saw your post I thought maybe you'd won another auction...how many would that make now... 31

 

They are all great kits and you cant really go wrong, whatever you pick, but if the Wasa is to be next after this build... I think you'll be really busy and might need a good friend to help store some of those extras taking up space. I would volunteer for that task if you need assistance. 

[hopeful]

Hi Buck,

 

My vote is the Dallas Revenue Cutter!!!  Beauuuuuutiful!  .....28"'s of fun!

 

Seriously, build the vessel of your choice, the vessel that really rings your bell!

 

Good luck,

Hopeful aka David

[trippwj]

For what it's worth, I vote for the Dallas with the Eagle a close second.  Realistically, any of these would be a good next step!

[Salty Sea Dog]

Thanks for all the responses. It's good to see that each choice has a following. Lol - Brian has an eye for a nice stern! The Eagle has that effect on me too!  I think JP's solution of side builds may be the way to go.

 

I actually have been sporadically working on a Midwest dinghy side build. I wanted to do something special with it and am being influenced by Keith's Swift. I'm thinking of finishing and detailing it out like a wine red Gibson Les Paul Custom guitar with black & white binding instead of a rope bumper and a mother of pearl inlaid transom. I'm not totally comitted to that yet but I'll keep looking at it and mulling it over.

[augie]

Are you going to have Mary Ford sitting in it?

[JPett]

Ahoy Buck

 

I always liked Martin N-20

 

 

[themadchemist]

I don't like that rope binding either, but haven't decided how to change it yet though, on the Dinghy.

Of course mines still in the box.

So if you hurry and get a log up on the Dinghy, I can steal all your good ideas?

[Salty Sea Dog]

JP -Willie Nelson's guitar "Trigger" is a train wreck- but I mean that in a good way! If it were a steel string instead of nylon string guitar, it would be in pieces. If I made the dinghy based on Trigger, it would have to be a diarama with a big hole in the dinghy washed up on some rocks! That might actually be cool for someone really good at distressing techniques.

 

Keith- the whole Les Paul binding idea originated with my fascination with the Dutch yacht De Sperwer. There was a build in MSW1 and it got me to thinking how you could use guitar binding to make the crisp black and white lines on the rubbing strakes. Photo courtesy of wefalck's website  http://www.maritima-et-mechanika.org/maritime/zuiderzee/zuiderzee.html

 

 

 

 

Sometime in the future I will be posting in the appropriate section a mini history of the De Sperwer (aka the "James Bond yacht") along with wefalck's pics (with his permission) and a huge amount of detail photos of the boat that was sent to me from the librarian at the Zuiderzee museum (also with their permission).

Edited May 7, 2013 by Salty Sea Dog

[JPett]

Ahoy Buck

 

I worked with Willy a few times. Lets just say it was an experience. The second hand smoke only adding to it. I am not a big fan but love him personally. He is a great guy.

Edited May 7, 2013 by JPett

[Salty Sea Dog]

I'd guess that you are safe from getting glaucoma now!  I have heard that Willie is a really nice guy. There are so many amazing musicians, especially guitar players, that have come from that corridor from Austin to Dallas/Ft. Worth. Must be something in the Shiner Bock!

[JPett]

Ahoy Buck  

 

I am not a native Texan but have traveled

 

The people here rock

 

Don't drink Shiner B either, maybe I should start "lol"