HMS Alert 1777 by Jaekon Lee - 1/64

[Jaekon Lee]

Hi,

First posting trial to join this community!

[WackoWolf]

Welcome to MSW. Your off to a good start. Keep the updates and pictures coming. If you have any questions just ask, people here will help.

[AntonyUK]

Hi.

Welcome to MSW.

Nice to have you aboard.

The alert is quite a nice ship to model.

Not a lot on the alert on the forum at the moment. But I'me sure you have already looked.

More information on your build please. I.E. timbers you are planning to use. Fulley framed. Planking Curvel or Clinker.

 

Looking forward to your build.

 

Regards Antony.

[Jaekon Lee]

Many thanks for welcoming.

I'm building this cute boat based on the

plans of "Anatomy of the ship" book with little modification as I can.

I use mostly pear timber and clinker type planking will be done.

Anyway, this small boat will take long time to finish

because I don't use power tools only except mini drill

Edited November 26, 2014 by Jaekon Lee

[Jaekon Lee]

Oops, I missed one.

In this work, I'm using black colored bond

to emphasis the bonding line

because normal bonding line is almost invisible.

Black bond is made by mixing small amount of carbon black into normal white glue.

How about the result?

Edited November 26, 2014 by Jaekon Lee

[WBlakeny]

The result is beautiful.  You're off to a great start of the Alert.

[Canute]

Welcome to MSW. Very nice joinery.

[Jaekon Lee]

Part 2.

Assembly of stem post, apron, keel, rising wood, stem post, inner post, dead wood. Keelson assembly was also finished. Rabbet trench for the plank board was carved at this moment.

Please estimate the size and scale of this boat with 150mm ruler.

Edited November 28, 2014 by Jaekon Lee

[AntonyUK]

Hello Lee.

Exelent joinery with the keel components

Please keep these wonderful pictures coming.

 

Top notch.

Regards Antony.

[Jim Lad]

Hello Lee, and a warm welcome to the forum.

 

That's an excellent start that you've made to your 'Alert'.

 

John

[Jaekon Lee]

Thank you all for these kind words and likes. As a beginner of model ship building, all your words makes me happy.

At this moment, I'm confused with bearding line at the deadwood for the aft cant frames because I can't find it from Goodwin's drawings. I think I have to draw it by myself as a reasonable smooth line.

Anyway, I start to cutting frame components and it may takes few days to finish.

Edited December 2, 2014 by JK Lee

[AnobiumPunctatum]

Hallo Lee,

 

welcome on board. I am also working on a model of this small cutter. Have a look in my signature, there you find a link to my build or in the moment better drawing log. Have a look at page 4 to find my Interpretation of the keel, deadwood and so on. Perhaps it's helpful

[BANYAN]

Welcome aboard Lee; you're off to a very fine start mate.  that is some very good joinery you have displayed.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[Jaekon Lee]

Thank you Christian and Pat for kind words. Christian, of course, I already found your excellent posts about Alert and read them several times. About the aft bearding line, I'm just guessing you draw it from the intersection of surfaces of deadwood and cant frames with the aid of CAD. Unfortunately, because I am so old fashioned person, I am not able to use CAD or other digital tools. So, your drawing would be very helpful for my hand drawing of bearding line and feet of cant frames.

Edited December 3, 2014 by JK Lee

[AnobiumPunctatum]

Lee,

 

please send me a PM with your mail address. I'll send you a copy of my first keel drawing. Be aware it's in scale 1/48.

The new one will not work with Goodwins reconstruction.

[harvey1847]

Welcome aboard Lee!

 

Nice, clean and neat keel so far! Good job.

 

Best wishes with the Cutter...

 

 

Daniel.

[the learner]

Great start! look foward to following your build

[Jaekon Lee]

Soooo kind of you, Christian. I sent PM

Many thanks Daniel and Learner. I feel I got a seat at this nice forum.

 

Lee

[Jaekon Lee]

Now, I'm on the way of cutting square frame parts with the pattern of chock joint manner as Goodwin's drawing.

All the frame shape is extracted from his body, half breadth and sheer plans. Time to time, imaginations were required at the ambiguous points because his drawings do not contain all the information.

Anyway, I'm enjoying woodworking rather than paper working. Look at some pics about my messy table.

[Jaekon Lee]

Square frames

 

All the parts of frame were cut out from pear boards of three different thickness and glued to the square frames. After glued joints dried, all the frames were roughly trimmed and beveled to the final shape. Smoothing the inner and outer surfaces will be done after they are joined with keel.

 

As shown on Goodwin's framing plans, most of 2nd futtocks and top timbers are shifted from lower timbers. I don't know this unique design of frame is the same as that of original ship. Though building frame of this design seems to be very tough, it is very attractive point especially for this small scale.

 

Following pics show the progress of work. In these pics, frames are not glued yet but inserted to rising wood of the keel assembly.

 

LEE

[AnobiumPunctatum]

I am sure, that the frame desing of Goodwin is not the original design.

Most of the original cutter drawings only Show double Frames. Cheerful instead shows only single frames.

 

That is one reason why I like to build my model with a stylized frame design

[Jaekon Lee]

Thank you Christian for kind comments and sharing your thoughts. As I said, I'm not sure that Goodwin's frame design is authentic or not. In his book, he described the frame structure as a set of one double frame and two single frames is repeated but, he didn't mention anything about the shape of each frame. I'm curious how he designed this frame shape. I can find the similar frame design from the plan of HMS Pandora which was built in similar period. Anyway, I would like to follow Goodwin's book to respect his efforts.

 

LEE

Edited December 9, 2014 by JK Lee

[AnobiumPunctatum]

Lee,

 

last year as I started with the project, I had the same idea. But I had problems to match the dimensions he has given in the first part of the book with the drawings. At this point I started to use a simplified frame model. Then I started my build but was not happy.

His line drawing differs from the original drawing which you can find on the NMM Homepage. And I couldn't find the reasons.

 

In September I bought the original drawing and started again ... the rest of the story you know. Meanwhile it makes a lot of fun to search and compare the different original drawings. I think I will do the same steps on the next models I like to build also.

 

There is also nothing wrong with your approach. I will follow your log with great interest.

[Jaekon Lee]

Thanks Christian, I'm so happy to hear you. Let's see how she will grow up.

[Jaekon Lee]

Forward cant frame and hawse pieces.

 

After all the square frames were joined with glue to the keel assembly, forward cant half frames and hawse pieces were glued. It was also not clear, there is no sign of scoring or mortising on the apron at the plan of Goodwin, I glued cant frames directly on the forward apron. The feet of them were matched to just above the rabbet line. Now, I'm going to aft.

[dgbot]

Nice and crisp without power tools.  My hat is off to you.  To scratch a build like this will take a lot of time and patience.  Been there and done that before I was able to build my workshop.  Just keep posting I am waiting with anticipation for the next photos.

David B

[Jaekon Lee]

Thank you David for your kind words.

I also hope l can prepare small woodworking workshop soooon.

Edited December 11, 2014 by JK Lee

[AntonyUK]

Hello Lee.

Just Wonderful workmanship.

I take my hat off to you. I could not work to the detail that you are putting into this model.

Outstanding.

 

Regards Antony.

[Jaekon Lee]

So generous and kind, Antony. Thank you all for visiting this log and leave likes.

[Jaekon Lee]

Finishing frame structure

 

I've finished joining all the frames including fashion piece and wing transom. Counter timbers and other transom structures will be added later. As was done at fore cant frames, aft cant frames also glued to the deadwood directly without paring out the deadwood. Bearding line, the locus of cant frame feet on deadwood, was estimated with the help of Christian's plan. Below the bearding line, deadwood was tapered to the rabbet of the keel and stern.

 

Though, the shape and spacing of frames are not well ordered, it began to seem like a boat, at least.