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Looks like you are almost there Mike just a couple more to go.

 

Michael

Current builds  Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8;      Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8;       Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8

Other projects  Pilot Cutter 1:500 ;   Maria, 1:2  Now just a memory    

Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8

Finished projects  A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100  

 

Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.

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Hi Mike,

 

Got the rest of that planking 'nailed' on yet?!!

 

Hope all's progressing well & looking forward to future updates.

 

 

Regards,

 

Row

1:28 Scale J class yacht 'Enterprise' (R/C)

Build log currently at: http://www.rcsailing.net/forum1/showthread.php?6264-1-28-J-Class-Enterprise-build-log

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Hello everyone and especialy Patrick, Igor, Lawrence, Michael, Crackers (avsjerome2003), Row.
 
I like to thank you very much for all of your feedback, support, encouragement and also for all the like buttons:) ... that always drives me forward!
 
... and yes, I also want to see this thing finished planked - soon!  ;) 
 
Best Regards!
Mike
 
Below:
- present state
 
 

 

 

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Colin Archer - RS14 "Stavanger"

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Hi Mike,

Every time when I watch your scratch build log, my desire to make the RS14 model in a bottle becomes more.

I look forward to continuations.

 

Best Regards!

Igor.

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Many thanks, Mike!

I have found some drawings and a photos in your build log.

Besides, I found in the kitchen of my flat the interesting bottle, but it is still filled with olive oil. I tried to adapt the drawing to the bottle size and it appear that the size of model will about 60 mm.

 

But now I only am going to build this model in future and I don't know yet when I will start doing it.

 

Best Regards!

Igor.

 

P.S.

Perhaps it will be interesting to you to look at some more photos of this boat:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/redningsselskapet/sets/72157630328871386

https://www.flickr.com/photos/redningsselskapet/sets/72157630328871412

https://www.flickr.com/photos/redningsselskapet/sets/72157630296322560

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Mike, I echo the above comment. Her lines are beautiful.Looking forward to see her progress.Bravo!!  :)  :) 

 

Cheers

Dimitris

Current Build: Amerigo Vespucci -Mantua- 1:100 scale

 

Completed Build logs: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale

 

Gallery: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale

 

Future Build: Royal Caroline -Panart- 1:47 scale

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Very impressive planking Mike and if my eyes don't deceive me, not a stealer in sight - all the more impressive considering her shape aft, many congratulations!!

 

Regards,

 

Row

1:28 Scale J class yacht 'Enterprise' (R/C)

Build log currently at: http://www.rcsailing.net/forum1/showthread.php?6264-1-28-J-Class-Enterprise-build-log

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Hi everyone

 

Many thanks for all the like buttons and for visiting this workshop.

 

@Igor

... quick, get a few spaghetti to the pan and make use of the bottle of oil, so that she gets empty! - fun aside, take your time. ;)  ... and thank you for posting the flickr links - I've also discovered this great image source.

 

@John, @Dimitris

Thank you for your continuous attend and great feedback!  :) 

 

@Row

Thank you for this great feedback! ... yes, no stealers, no drop planks, the planking is equivalent to the original - up to a few blemishes on proportions.  :huh: But I have my joy at the result and have learned a lot here.  :) 

 

Best Regards!

Mike

 

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... always still raw, but done!

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Colin Archer - RS14 "Stavanger"

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Hello everybody

 

Thank you for visiting this workshop and all you encouragement with your likes!  :) 

 

@John, @Patrick, @Dimitris

Many thanks, I really appreciate your assistance!  :) 

 

Currently, I'm heavy busy with the manufacturing processes for the deck. I'm on the way to prepare various dummies for these. So I wanted to try different things: The choice of wood and the whole appearance with color, the producing of the caulk joints, but also the functionality such as water resistance and so on.

 

To do this, first of all I need to modify my old Proxxon table saw, so that I can produce identical planks.

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Further on, the pending decisions concerning the caulk joints is one of the most important question I have to answer. So I asked myself:

Why not just do like the originals? ...

 

Sikaflex-290i DC

Is a one-component sealant based on polyurethane and designed specifically for application on Rod deck joints.

 

Sikaflex-291i

Is a strong adhesive 1-component polyurethane sealant, designed specifically for all marine applications.

 

... My choice much on the Sikaflex 291i, because it seems to me, as a strong adhesive elastomer, very suitable for model application (although, it is not recommended as such for rod joints in full scale).

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I apply the sealant with a spatula. Here I recommend you a good processing in the longitudinal direction of the joints. After drying, the surplus material gets scraped and sanded off.

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I'm thrilled by the result! - it looks quite fine and is further on to develop ...

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Best regards!

Mike

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Colin Archer - RS14 "Stavanger"

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Hi Mike,

 

thats a beautiful built hull of your "Stavanger", I very much like all the sequences of you log, and the Background Information for this Colin Archer typ,  thanks for sharing this.....

 

Trust I asked it sometime earlier already, but my question....How much Kilogram lead will  the seperate attachable keel be  in order to stabilze her on course ?

 

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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Interesting, using calk to simulate calking.  Who ever heard of such a thing?  The sample looks good.

 

Bob

Every build is a learning experience.

 

Current build:  SS_ Mariefred

 

Completed builds:  US Coast Guard Pequot   Friendship-sloop,  Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard,   Spray,   Grand-Banks-dory

                                                a gaff rigged yawl,  HOGA (YT-146),  Int'l Dragon Class II,   Two Edwardian Launches 

 

In the Gallery:   Catboat,   International-Dragon-Class,   Spray

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Hi Mike,

to you nothing happens by chance, everything is planned and the result is visible. The hull looks great but I have no doubt that you and others do the same.

  I am waiting impatiently for your pictures of construction.

 

Regards, Matija.

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Hi all

Thank you for participating, your feedbacks, and all the likes.

 

@Bob

Thanks for your funny statement - I like your sense of humor: “... using caulk to simulate caulking ...“ - wonderful! :)

Incidentally, the joints on my build are 0.5mm wide - but I'm sure, with the spatula you get this stuff into the smallest joints - we need to test this necessarily also on smaller scales ...

 

@Nils

Thank you for your appreciation of my log. :)

The lead keel weighing about 5 kg - regarding to the considerations of the scale effect (see log no. 14) I've done the subsequent calculations to the subject of wind pressure and heeling angle. The formula is simplified, therefor ship weight empty, center of lift are disregarded for example (see below). With the 5kg ballast and wind force Beaufort 3 (18N/m2), the model will heel about 30°. Taking into account the scale effect, Beaufort 3 corresponds to a veritable gale!

 

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@Matija

Thank you for your great feedback. :)

Yes, you are right, planning is my profession - but as we all know, it is also not always helpful to think of everything in our heads - hence my newly discovered joy of model-making, here I can also create something with my hands.

 

Below, a few more pictures of the deck dummies and first experiments with surface treatment - more on that later ...

 

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Best regards!

Mike

current scratch build 1:15

 

Colin Archer - RS14 "Stavanger"

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Hi all

Thank you for participating, your feedbacks, and all the likes.

 

@Bob

Thanks for your funny statement - I like your sense of humor: “... using caulk to simulate caulking ...“ - wonderful! :)

Incidentally, the joints on my build are 0.5mm wide - but I'm sure, with the spatula you get this stuff into the smallest joints - we need to test this necessarily also on smaller scales ...

 

@Nils

Thank you for your appreciation of my log. :)

The lead keel weighing about 5 kg - regarding to the considerations of the scale effect (see log no. 14) I've done the subsequent calculations to the subject of wind pressure and heeling angle. The formula is simplified, therefor ship weight empty, center of lift are disregarded for example (see below). With the 5kg ballast and wind force Beaufort 3 (18N/m2), the model will heel about 30°. Taking into account the scale effect, Beaufort 3 corresponds to a veritable gale!

 

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@Matija

Thank you for your great feedback. :)

Yes, you are right, planning is my profession - but as we all know, it is also not always helpful to think of everything in our heads - hence my newly discovered joy of model-making, here I can also create something with my hands.

 

Below, a few more pictures of the deck dummies and first experiments with surface treatment - more on that later ...

 

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Best regards!

Mike

 

 

Thanks for your answer Mike,

 

sorry, I must have overread your mentioning before of the calculated 5 Kg ballast in your log #14 (very informative calculation)

In total the ship will present quite a bit of mass when under way and knock away any other floating objects on the lake

A great masterly built model !

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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Hi again

 

Many thanks to everyone who posted comments and likes.  :) 

 

@John

... yes, thank you! I am myself surprised how well it works!  :) 

 

@Igor

... many thanks for feedback. :)  It is Larch wood which I'm testing - from the beginning on I had provided something like that, but I got final confirmation by studie Matija's Pasara (see Pasara's page 3, log no.32). Stavangers's planks width measures 6.6mm, thickness 3mm.

 

@Nils

... I'll watch out!  ;) 

 

@Patrick

... of that I'm not afraid, that will take time.  ;) 

 

Best regards!

Mike

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Hi Mike,

Incidentally I saw this photo. I think, it can be pleasant to you too.

 

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And links with like boat - https://www.facebook.com/sailshipataraxia/info?tab=page_info

 

Best Regards!

Igor.

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Hi together
 
@Lawrence
Thank you for the nice feedback - unfortunately, I have not always the feeling of serenity – but I'm already glad that it looks as ...  ;)
 
@Igor
Oh yes, I like this picture! - this is Colin-Archer-weather:)  
As "Stavanger", "Christiania" is one of the most famous RS-boats and she has a moving story - see links below (report in WoodenBoat no.160, june 2001 and YouTube).
 
 
 
Best Regards!
Mike

 

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Hello everyone

 

Thank you for all of your likes and for visiting „Stavangers“ shipyard - I am delighted whenever the "bell is heard“! :)

 

... So, what's going on in Colin Archer’s workshop?

 

The hull as far is finished in its raw version. It lacks even the fine finish and the plasterwork and final attachement of the keel.

 

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Also the rudder blade achieved his raw state. Regarding RC technical reasons, the rudder blade is expanded in its area.

 

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Regarding the deck topic, I can tell you about the working status so far:

 

Characteristic for all Colin Archer RS-sailors is the closed and heavily double-curved (concave-convex) hyperbolic shape of the deck. Thus shipped seas can be fast discharged.

 

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The original is made of pine planks of dimension 10/5cm. By aging, sun exposure, and dozens of surface treatments (probably pine-tar-oil), the look is anthracite-black.

 

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I've decided to forego a false deck. The problem is, that I can't manufacture a hyperbolic-shaped plane as a homogeneous element in any manner with reasonable effort - unless the false deck again would have joints, which were again to close and so on ...

 

As all the tests with the deck dummies has showed, a simple and clean solution for this task is already foreseeable - in form of the elastomeric Sika-joints. The best thing is, that this is a way to solve everything in one single layer: Joint pattern, deformation, elastic connection, water resistance, ...

 

Further I will plank the deck with pine/larch. Slow-growth pine/larch has a very fine and narrow drawing of annual rings - the scale effect will benefiting from this circumstance (see also Matija’s log on Pasara, page 3, no.32).

 

I'll treat the deck in multiple layers with coloured pine oil. The appearance of the dummy is not yet there where it should be ... - but it goes in the right direction.  :) 

 

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Best regards!

Mike

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very good work in Fitting the keel Mike,

 

the contours of the lead Ballast fit neatly with the hull, I presume you can remove the lead afterwards (Access to srews seems given)

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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The ballast keel and rudder with extension look good.  Don’t be afraid of the curves in the deck.  It planks up the same as the hull.  I like the color.

 

Bob

Every build is a learning experience.

 

Current build:  SS_ Mariefred

 

Completed builds:  US Coast Guard Pequot   Friendship-sloop,  Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard,   Spray,   Grand-Banks-dory

                                                a gaff rigged yawl,  HOGA (YT-146),  Int'l Dragon Class II,   Two Edwardian Launches 

 

In the Gallery:   Catboat,   International-Dragon-Class,   Spray

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Very good work Mike, I like the color too !! The keel and ruder are perfect.

 

Cheers

Dimitris

Current Build: Amerigo Vespucci -Mantua- 1:100 scale

 

Completed Build logs: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale

 

Gallery: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale

 

Future Build: Royal Caroline -Panart- 1:47 scale

 

 

 

 

 

 

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