JeffT Posted April 21, 2014 Author #151 Posted April 21, 2014 Thanks Rich. I just followed the the plans for the kit which shows the configuration I did. The kits plans are based on the way the ship looks now so I assume the actual ship will have the same configuration. Anatomy of a Ship shows 4 per side also but in a different configuration. Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
robnbill Posted April 21, 2014 #152 Posted April 21, 2014 I do not have a photo of all of them, but this one shows the 4 closest to the bulkhead. JeffT and HIPEXEC 2 Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli
Capt.Bob Posted April 21, 2014 #153 Posted April 21, 2014 Its hard to argue with a photo. I'm sure that Model Shipways took the latest configuration. If you want to get really precise when doing scale, you usually have to pick a specific date and even then its really difficult to capture all the details correctly. The Connnie has been rebuilt so many times during its life that almost none of the original wood remains in Boston harbor. One piece of advice which may be helpful. I'm working on the running rigging on my Mantua Connie, which is suppose to be the 1797 configuration. As you can see it looks quite different than the MS 2040 configuration. I would highly recommend that before you complete the mast construction you study the rigging very thoroughly. There are a great number of blocks and harness elements that will be needed. Carefully consider installing most or all of these features before stepping the masts and laying in the standing rigging. It has been very cumbersome installing these items amongst a sea of thread. Best of luck, Bob P.S. Apparently there is a difference between plain photos and scanned .jpg files. HIPEXEC 1 Quote Bob ____________________________________________ Current Build: Mantua "USS Constitution - 1797" Pending: Model Shipways "USS Constitution" Completed: Model Shipways "USF Essex -1799" Model Shipways "New Bedford Whale Boat" Billings "Zwarta Zee" (RC) BlueJacket "Sequin" Tugboat (RC)
JSGerson Posted April 21, 2014 #154 Posted April 21, 2014 Thanks Robnbill, that is the first image I have seen of any portion of the seats. I guess they frown upon tourist leaning and climbing over the rails to get to portions of the ship not open to the public. Quote Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution Past Builds: Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter Member: Nautical Research Guild
JSGerson Posted April 21, 2014 #155 Posted April 21, 2014 I ran across this little interesting article about the Constitution's head: http://usscm.blogspot.com/2014/01/head-lines.html JeffT and HIPEXEC 2 Quote Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution Past Builds: Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter Member: Nautical Research Guild
JeffT Posted April 22, 2014 Author #156 Posted April 22, 2014 Thanks Bob. The rigging isn't my favorite part. Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
HIPEXEC Posted June 11, 2014 #157 Posted June 11, 2014 I just discovered my Constructo USS Constitution doesn't show any binnacles? How can they make a model with no compass? I'll just copy yours. Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC
capnharv2 Posted June 11, 2014 #158 Posted June 11, 2014 (edited) Rich, Why do you think they call it "Dead Reckoning" ?? Harvey Edited June 11, 2014 by capnharv2 HIPEXEC, mtaylor and JeffT 3 Quote
robnbill Posted June 11, 2014 #159 Posted June 11, 2014 (edited) If it makes you feel any better neither did the Mamoli plans. I used photos, and if I recall the AOS to carve mine. Then to put the round tops on them I drill small holes in the top point and glued small ball bearings. Here is a photo of mine as well as a few from the Connie today. The only change I would have made to my construction of them was I aded the ball bearings as an after thought since they did not look correct just coming to a point. So I drilled progressively larger wholes (starting very small) until I had the landing size I wanted of the bearing to be glued onto. In retrospect, it would have been much easier to have drilled the hole before a sanded down the points. It would have also given me a point to sand to that would be very easy to see if it was favoring one plane over another as I sanded it down. Anyway - just my two cents. Bill Edited June 12, 2014 by robnbill CaptainSteve and Aussie048 2 Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli
JeffT Posted June 12, 2014 Author #160 Posted June 12, 2014 No problem Rich. Bills photos should help quite a bit. Lightplay 1 Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
HIPEXEC Posted June 12, 2014 #161 Posted June 12, 2014 Great job on the binnacles. I shall copy you to "T"> Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC
HIPEXEC Posted June 12, 2014 #162 Posted June 12, 2014 What do you know about the portholes beneath the gun deck? Constructo just gives me open rivets. Portholes should have glass. What did you do? Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC
JeffT Posted June 12, 2014 Author #163 Posted June 12, 2014 The portholes on the MS version are pretty much the same. Its just a cast metal porthole inserted into an opening drilled in the hull. HIPEXEC 1 Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
scott larkins Posted June 14, 2014 #164 Posted June 14, 2014 That is some really nice work you've done there. Quote
g mummey Posted June 18, 2014 #165 Posted June 18, 2014 Very impressive build. I am in the process of the same build now, a little out of my league but it's working. Finished the San Francisco & syren. Your photos help a lot JeffT 1 Quote
JeffT Posted June 19, 2014 Author #166 Posted June 19, 2014 Very impressive build. I am in the process of the same build now, a little out of my league but it's working. Finished the San Francisco & syren. Your photos help a lot Thanks. It has been a challenge every step of the way. Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
mtaylor Posted June 19, 2014 #167 Posted June 19, 2014 What do you know about the portholes beneath the gun deck? Constructo just gives me open rivets. Portholes should have glass. What did you do? I believe those aren't portholes as we know them. Those are probably air ports to allow air into the junior officer quarters on the berth deck. Constellation has/had them also. If I recall correctly, there's a wooden plug that goes in the opening to seal it in bad weather. HIPEXEC and JeffT 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
janet bode Posted November 4, 2014 #168 Posted November 4, 2014 Hi As regards driling tiny blocks,make a small jig out of four pieces of wood glue them all together so you have a hole the same size of the blocks down the middle, glue a stop in the hole the depth of the block make a lid to fit on top of the jig find a brass tube inside diameter of the drill and glue it through the top block and make sure it is dead centre of the hole where the block fits, very lightly tack it on top then drill a hole each side going through the block and into the jig fit two dowls then take the top block off put in your block put the top block in place and insert the dowls gently drill into your block. You would need to add a small hole underneath to eject the block. Hope it works Janet B Quote
JeffT Posted November 4, 2014 Author #169 Posted November 4, 2014 Hi As regards driling tiny blocks,make a small jig out of four pieces of wood glue them all together so you have a hole the same size of the blocks down the middle, glue a stop in the hole the depth of the block make a lid to fit on top of the jig find a brass tube inside diameter of the drill and glue it through the top block and make sure it is dead centre of the hole where the block fits, very lightly tack it on top then drill a hole each side going through the block and into the jig fit two dowls then take the top block off put in your block put the top block in place and insert the dowls gently drill into your block. You would need to add a small hole underneath to eject the block. Hope it works Janet B Thanks for the suggestion Janet. I think I get the idea. Would you happen to have a diagram of the suggested jig, or a picture? GLakie 1 Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
JSGerson Posted November 4, 2014 #170 Posted November 4, 2014 I agree, a diagram would be very useful. How does this work with double or triple sheave blocks? GLakie 1 Quote Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution Past Builds: Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter Member: Nautical Research Guild
Burroak Posted October 27, 2015 #171 Posted October 27, 2015 I don't see anymore updates since November 2014. Is it located elsewhere? Greg GLakie 1 Quote GREG H.
JeffT Posted October 27, 2015 Author #172 Posted October 27, 2015 I don't see anymore updates since November 2014. Is it located elsewhere? Greg Hi Greg. This is still the current log. I have neglected the model for some time now and it sits here on the shelf awaiting my attention. I will be back to it soon I think. I've been focusing more on my other hobbies lately and perhaps secretly working on another model ship. Thanks, Jeff CaptainSteve, Burroak and GLakie 3 Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
Burroak Posted October 27, 2015 #173 Posted October 27, 2015 Thank you Jeff for letting me know. I look forward to your return. I just got my USS Constitution in from Model Expo and hope to start soon. Take care Thanks Greg GLakie 1 Quote GREG H.
JeffT Posted April 5, 2019 Author #174 Posted April 5, 2019 Okay, so after a short break 😀 I'm getting back to work on my conny. So, where was I? Oh yeah, rigging cannons. Sometimes when you wait a little something good happens. One of the issues I had was the blocks provided with the kit. No bueno. I ordered some blocks from warner and they were better but now Syren Ship Model Company has blocks too. I ordered some of the blocks from Syren to finish the cannon rigging, the 1/8 double and 3/32 single blocks. I have a feeling they will be much better to work with. There is still the issue of drilling holes in the end of the block for the hooks. I don't think it matters which method I choose, its not easy. I managed to start on one and after a lengthy struggle got the holes drilled and the hooks in and partially rigged the first cannon. It was a lot easier to drill a hole in the 1/8 block but the 3/32 block is tiny and my aging eyes and shaky hands aren't helping much. Making the hooks was no walk in the park either. Picture below. The blocks here are warner. I'll wait for my new blocks to do the other side and do a comparison. I do think I'm going to cheat a little and rig only the outer rigging Retired guy, David Lester, GrandpaPhil and 5 others 8 Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
Jim Rogers Posted April 5, 2019 #175 Posted April 5, 2019 Jeff try using black wire to rig your blocks, wrap, three tight twists and in a hook. Same way Chuck describes in Medway Longboat rigging. It works really well and once you get it down it is easier, less time consuming and no block breakage. mtaylor and CaptainSteve 2 Quote Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut.
JeffT Posted April 5, 2019 Author #176 Posted April 5, 2019 Thanks Jim. I hadn't made it that far on the longboat before disaster struck. I'll take a look at that. Thanks for the tip. mtaylor and CaptainSteve 2 Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
Geoff Matson Posted April 5, 2019 #177 Posted April 5, 2019 Hey Jeff, It is great to see you back at it. I missed your build log. I am again in limbo. My wife has me doing some crown moulding the house. Funny how the wife's list interferes with my modeling. This time I am planning on working on my Conny at least some time during the week. Have fun and look forward to your progress. JeffT, mtaylor and CaptainSteve 3 Quote Geoff NRG member #2666Current build : USS Constitution Finished builds: Armed Virginia Sloop (in gallery)
JSGerson Posted April 5, 2019 #178 Posted April 5, 2019 Good to have you back JeffT, CaptainSteve and mtaylor 3 Quote Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution Past Builds: Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter Member: Nautical Research Guild
JeffT Posted April 5, 2019 Author #179 Posted April 5, 2019 Thanks for following along. I've neglected this build far to long. mtaylor 1 Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
CaptainSteve Posted April 6, 2019 #180 Posted April 6, 2019 Well, at the least you haven't given up on her entirely, Jeff. Good to see you back. JeffT and mtaylor 2 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve
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