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Triton Cross Section Timber List


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Pete38

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Here is former Chad86 timberlist for the cross sections

I could only load a pdf if anyone wants the excell format pm me with you email

Attached File  Timber list cross section.pdf   20.71KB   1017 downloads


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Triton Cross Section 1:32

 

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Great to see this here.

 

Later 42rocker


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Wow! That seems like an incredible amount of wood for a cross section Are those lengths correct? That's just a hair under 40 inches for each of the 1000mm pieces and 20 inches for the 500's
That's 15 meters of lower planks alone

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Chad's initial posting on 30 April 2008 regarding woods he planned to purchase appears below. I know he later ordered some wood from Hobby Mill and changed some of his choices, but this is what he started with.

 

It's been a loooong month since I last posted. First I was derailed by a backyard project and then a sick two-year-old, but today I FINALLY ordered my wood.

 

After all the distractions, I got down to the business of deciding the What, Where, and What Size of the cross section. I started by figuring that I was going to buy most of my lumber pre-milled, since I have yet to buy a thickness sander and I'm still learning the ropes with my table saw and scroll saw. Next on the agenda was trying to decide what types of wood I'd use. Two things I figured into the equation were 1) I haven't worked with many types of wood outside of the ones that come with kits, so I would like to try diversifying a little, and 2) money wasn't going to be a hinderance. I remember a post somewhere a long time ago that if you divide the price of the supplies over the amount of time it take to finish a project, that the cost tends to be very small- so I'd rather pay a little more for the wood I want since in the end it's probably only pennies difference.

 

So trying to decide what I wanted to use was going to be tough since my wood knowledge is pretty shallow, so I hit up the gallery and came across Raul Guzman Jr.'s Oliver Cromwell*. I have seen this model before and absolutely love it, so I PM'ed him and he was nice enough to provide me a "who's who" of the types of wood used. I pretty much ended up using the same wood list since I liked it so much, and added a couple other types.

 

Once I knew what types I was going to use, I set out breaking everything down into sizes and types using the plans and came up with this list**. The only part (I think) that I missed was the gun carriages, but I'm going to wait and see how things play out and see what I would like to use. I've ordered everything from the Lumberyard and qty's in parenthesis are for 12 inch+ lengths- which will give me enough to screw up with and yet probably finish.

 

BOXWOOD

(2) 3/16 x 3" x 24" frames, lodging knees, sills, beam arms
(13) 1/8 x 1/8 ledges
(6) 3/16 x 3/16 carlings
(3) 1/4 x 1/4 gun deck beams
(3) 5/16 x 1/4 lower deck beams
(1) 5/32 x 2" x 24 hanging knees, lintels

 

APPLE

(1) 13/32 x 5/16 keel
(1) 5/16 x 5/16 keelson
(1) 13/32 x 1/16 garboard strake
(20) 3/16 x 1/16 planking
(3) 1/4 x 1/16 broad strake
(6) 7/32 x 3/32 lower deck spirk./gundeck clamps
(2) 1/16 x 5/32 skid beams

 

INDIAN LAUREL

(1) 1/4 x 1/16 gangway ladder
(1) 3/16 x 1/16 FWD ladder
(1) 1/16 x 3/8 sheer rail
(1) 3/8 x 3/32 gangway trim
(1) 5/32 x 5/32 gundeck stanchions
(2) 1/8 x 5/16 false keel

 

CHERRY

(6) 1/8 x 5/16 thick stuff
(4) 3/32 x 1/4 planking 1
(2) 1/16 x 1/4 planking 2
(2) 1/16 x 3/16 planking 3
(2) 5/32 x 5/32 hold pillars

 

WALNUT

(2) 1/4 x 5/32 hatches

 

EBONY

(4) 1/8 x 3/16 wales
(2) 1/16 x 1/8 trim
(1) 3/8 x 1/16 fenders
(2) 3/16 x 3/32 steps

 

BLOODWOOD

(2) 1/4 x 3/32 gundeck spirketting
(1) 3/32 x 3/16 gangway clamp
(3) 1/16 x 3/16 bulwarks
(1) 3/16 x 3/8 gallows
(1) 1/8 x 5/32 cross piece
(2) 1/4 x 1/4 bitts

 

MAPLE

(23) 1/16 x 3/16 deck planking
(3) 1/16 x 1/4 waterways
(10) 1/16 x 5/32 gangway

 

... so now I wait...

 

* If you haven't seen Mr. Guzman's models for some reason, you can find the Oliver Cromwell in the gallery, or you can visit his site here:
http://www.guzmanshipmodels.com/

**If anyone somewhere down the line would like a copy of this list, just let me know- I have it saved as a word doc.


Edited by SteveM, 23 February 2013 - 11:13 PM.

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Tim C

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Another nice list to review. Many Thanks Ok. change that to WOW what a nice list. Thanks for posting that.

 

edited for the third time


That's a great link to some great looking models. Thanks

 

Later 42rocker


Edited by 42rocker, 23 February 2013 - 06:01 PM.

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Long9Ron

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Thanks for the .pdf file Pete and thanks for the nice link Steve. Good information to have.


Ron

 

 

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Thanks for posting both the lists.  The quantities in the later post seem to be more likely for such a small project. 

Not to beat a subject to death, but I'm wondering if the problem is in the lengths given in the PDF file.  Again, 15 strips at a full metre each seems like a lot of wood.  And that's just one item out of many.  I notice that he mentions 1 foot lengths in the other list.


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Pete38

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Olphat,

     This was chad86 first scratch build and he was not to worried about the cost of material so he over estimated quite abit, so that he was sure to have enough when he made any mistakes.


Triton Cross Section 1:32

 

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mtaylor

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Overestimating is actually a fine idea.  Gives you lots of wiggle room and re-do capability without peering at the woodpile and fearing you'll run out.


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It is not a requirement. If you want less then buy less.

 

Joss.


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Don't know whether someone still reads this (or knows the answer)....

 

Does the timber list refer to a 1:48 version of the cross section?

(and has anyone any idea on the extent of overestimation?)

 

Jan


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Pete38

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The timber list was for the 1:48 version

as to how much was over estimated I am not sure but I would say at least 10 to 15 percent, Just don't hold me to that number


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Thanks.
15% is reasonable.

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Pete38

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Unless your are me, thaen it more like 75%...... :D


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Ex-chach86 here (now ChadB)... I can't remember the exact amounts, but I nearly doubled the amounts when ordering since I expected many screw ups along the way (I had my fair share). What I will say, though is that since it is all good hardwood any extra will more than likely get used down the road in another build so ordering too much is necessarily a bad thing.  -Chad


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