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OK, as promised here is a picture of all the gun barrels we have been discussing: The three on the right are the kit supplied barrels, from left to right are the carronade, dummy, and long gun barrels. The barrel on the left is one from the extra gun deck guns that can be ordered from Model Expo. As you can see they are all about the same quality and the long gun and gun deck gun barrels are the same. I am still undecided about adding the two long guns to the spar deck.
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Yep, I only looked at the two bags on the right, so I have the two long guns too. I thought there were more guns than just the carronades for the spar deck. The barrels in the add on cannons look about the same in quality to the ones supplied in the kit.
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Hum, I didn't see the long 24's but maybe I overlooked them. I'll look closer tonight and let you know.
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"Yes winter is just around the corner,..." What! It is still summer here in the Northern Hemisphere. Snow in summer is just unreal. How far north are you Michael?
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Tim, thanks for that information. You are a fountain of knowledge on this ship and I much appreciate it. George, simple is good, but I'll bet you will add a lot of detail once you get going. I agree that wood building is so satisfying, but can be frustrating at times too. Trying to get the planking to look nice and even is frustrating me at the moment. I checked back into the kit supplied parts last night, and the only armament supplied are the carronades for the spar deck and the dummy gun barrels for the gun deck, so no cannons for the spar deck. Tonight I will take a picture or two of the three barrels (carraonade and dummy from the kit, and cannon from the cannon package), so you guys can see what is available from Model Expo and how they compare to each other. Wes, Thank you. I got the idea for the gun deck from this forum and figured I'd see how far I could go. It was not a big decision because I figured I could always cover it up if it didn't come out right. So far, I am happy with it although keeping it clean while hull planking is a bit of a challenge. Also, I have to figure out how to mask it when I go to paint this monster.
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Welcome George. You make a very good point concerning accuracy. In my case, the majority of guns on the spar deck will be carronades which came with the kit, which are quite a bit different than the gun deck guns. I think there are a couple of regular cannons that came with the kit for the spar deck and these are probably the same as the gun deck guns, so there is where the inaccuracy may show.. The gun deck guns are a mixture of the dummy cannon barrels that came with the kit and the Model Expo gun kits that they sell separately. The barrels on these are close to the same as the dummy barrels, and should be OK for 24 pounders. I don't know Chuck's schedule for the Syren guns.
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Yes, the castings in these are a bit rough too, as are the castings that came with the kit. I think they can be cleaned up with some work, though. The carriages needed a lot of modification so that these cannon barrels would match the elevation of the dummy cannon barrels, since i am using both. it wasn't too bad since I am only using 16 of these "real" cannons, though.
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Yes Tim, I bought that set a while ago. It really is a good deal compared to buying the guns individually. Even without filling the whole gun deck with these guns it was still a lot cheaper then if I just bought the guns I need.
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Wow, I guess I haven't updated this in a while. I gave the port side wale planks an initial sanding before moving onto the starboard side. I thinned down the bottom three wale planks so the wales will flow into the rest of the hull planking. I also thinned the wale planks at the stem to be flush with the planks above. I will sand these all some more when I do the final sanding of the whole hull before painting and coppering. I turned the hull around and started adding the two remaining planks between the gun ports and the wales on this side. It took me over a month to get the port side where it is from this point, but hopefully I will have more time to work the starboard side so it won't take as long. We will see...
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That is an excellent rigging job. I had the same problem with the belaying pins on the rail. Good solution. Rope coils are one of those things that take time and practice to get to look right. After 6 models I am still not there, but I have a feeling yours will look great.
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So true, Scott. Welcome back Wes. Sorry for your loss. I need more inspiration from your fabulous build.
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I don't think so Mundie. I think that was just how they were drafted.
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Thanks Rich for the tips on the hammock nets. They look great. I will use that same method when I get to them (in a year or two or three).
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You are welcome Richard. And if you ever need to loosen CA glue, acetone works well.
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Oh my, that looks very delicate at this stage.
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Thanks Wayne. That description fits the references.
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The Age of Fighting Sail, C. S. Forester - War of 1812. One reference was to chopping the topgallant forcastle up with axes to lighten the ship, so I know it was not a stay. I don't have the book here with me, but I could find the specific reference later.
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I saw this term referenced twice in a book I just finished. Is it a second level on the forecastle? The reference was to British ships in the 1814 era.
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Did you try isopropyl alcohol? It should loosen the wood glue. But, wood filler works too. Nice progress so far.
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Model Shipways provides one of the kits. You can get it in the US from Model Expo. I think they ship to Australia, too, but it is probably expensive. I think OcCre provides the other kit, and I know they are quite different. For instance, the OcCre kit has a bowsprit and the MS kit does not.
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Glad you got it fixed, Sal. I won't tell you how I know to try that method...
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Sal, Nice idea with the compass to cut your boom rest. I remember having a lot of trouble with that step and ended up using a metal washer that was the right size. For your missing mast hoops, you might try making them around the top mast, using some masking tape wrapped around the topmast to get the right diameter and keep glue off the mast.
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I'll be happy to send copies, but I realize that I can't attach an Excel spreadsheet to a PM, so whomever would like a copy, please PM me your email address and I will send it to you that way. Also, if you are using an older version of Excel, let me know and I will send you an version that will work with that version.
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Tim - your Pinky Schooner is really coming out nicely, so your Constitution should be great too when you can start on it in your new house. Richard - not sure design is the right word, but it is my own doing. As spreadsheets go, it is really very simple. I would be happy to make it available to anyone that wanted it, though. It would need some modification for each kit, though, based on number of bulkheads and planking bands, but that is simple cut and paste stuff.
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