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The stove and vent pipe has turned out nice, well done. Druxley thanks for the information on the soldering and Dan Birthdays are a thing of the past, at some point you just don't want to have any more. -
Nice tight joints! looks good
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Hi Ed, A start to anouther fine Build with fantastic detail Guy
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Great build! you have posted a lot of good detail pictures that some one will find useful to build thier own Nao. I like the way you squared the bulkheads when assemblying the body using the angles...pretty simple, all of us should have a dozen or so in our tool kits.
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Great detail! fantastic build.
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Great start Ed! anouther fantastic build. I too have noticed when printing out pdf files one has to make sure they are using the same settings or there will be a slight diffrence in size and once printed one does not find out until fitting the parts.
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On the YT149/150 when we were taken to DD 65/66 they painted the hull red lead color (I assume a anti-fouling paint) then black from just (2") below the waterline to the top of the gunnels, but you will have to do a little research to see what the 1941 colors would have been. The hull looks like I remember and a good resource for your build. I will put that picture in my resource file.
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Bob, what looked like stablizers on the bottom area of the hull in the film is rubber bumpers fitted for tugs servicing submarines, I am still doing some research on who mfg them..I remember them being "D" shaped same as the bow mats. while I was in service (64-67) the colors were light grey for the bulkheads, pilot house and stack, medium to dark bluish grey for the decks and black trim for the top of the stack, Black on the sides and redlead (anti-fouling) below the marked waterline. all the bits and accessories black and the drying rack for storage of the towing hauser on the stern was natural wood usually with some protection on it. wow talking about bringing back old memories! On the colors there were directives issued prior to 1941 that tells what the colors would have been in 1941, I understand that these are still available but not quite sure where to get them! Try Navsource or DANSF. Guy
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Still working on frames...busy at work too!
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any deck pictures, close up structure or inside pictures ie: Cabins, pilot house etc: I have always wanted to ride on a submarine but this is a hell of a way to get that ride! A Woban class tug YTM 415 being sunk by a submarine ... I wonder whose goof up this was. It appears the sub was pouring the coal to her before the tug was able to get away for her, any way the records show that she sunk in a collision in Midway in Jan 1986 who collided with whom. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrKHLQMA_5U
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Bob, Good start! I wish I did not have so many projects going or I would build one with you. I still have not been able to locate all the pictures of the YTB 150 That I took in the late 60's Guy
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Looks good Bob! I scaled out the Nokomis plans at 1/4" = 1' and I see a model approx 15" on perpendiculars, is this going to be the scale you will be using? It will make a good size model, for those build pond boats 1/2 to ¾ inch to the foot would probably be better. What program are you using to draw out the lines?
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HMS Euryalus by egen -
the learner replied to egen's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1801 - 1850
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Well Bob it looks like you have me hooked! I have to find a set of lines plans now! Click on the web page and go about three quarters of the way down on the table for Consolidated shipbuilding and you will see the hoga listed there. It appears they built 4 of the Woban class yard tugs. It wouod be nice to have a picture of them in the yard http://www.shipbuildinghistory.com/history/shipyards/6yachtsmall/consolidated.htm The boats shipyard Consolidated Shipbuilding Corporation
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Chuck, can you post a link from the scratch built section to this forum? I for one would like to see more than those of us building the triton to comment and respond to the construction problems or questions we might encounter. Thanks Guy
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You'll get there! I will keep looking for line plans for em
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Bob if you have not already checked this out you might want to go here http://modeltugforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=rtdjmf9mdd92rulqp6g8rmsl97 this is a tug Forum. it appears you have to register to view pictures and downloads. Also check out this site http://www.navytugs.com/ it list US Navy Tugs Below is from DANSF (haze Grey) (YT - 146: dp. 325; l. 100'; b. 25'; dr. 9'7") Hoga (YT-146), a diesel-powered tug, was launched by Consolidated Shipbuilding Corp., Morris Heights, N.Y., 31 December 1940; and placed in service 22 May 1941. Hoga served during World War II as a harbor tug in the 14th Naval District, and was reclassified YTB-146 15 May 1944. She was loaned to the city of Okland [sic; Oakland], Calif. in June 1948, and serves at present as a harbor tug into 1967. She was reclassified YTM-146 on 1 February 1962. Your Tug was built at Consolidated but all the deminsions and the class appear the same and were more than likely built off the same plans. This might be a good contact: Yves HUBERT (hubertypc@aol.com) And this site: http://www.navsource.org/archives/14/08146.htm Hope this helps but still no lines drawings! I will be following your build with interest and if I can locate the pictures I have of YT150 I will foward thim on. I have several other builds and projects in process so my time will be limited to your research Guy
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Bob I think that there is a list of each class built, I think I might have it but will have to dig...be nice to find a set of lines for one. as I stated before I was stationed on YT150 in Norfolk during the mid 60 and the reason for my research into her was to construct a model too. I too came to a block wall when unable to find the lines for one. Guy
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I was on the YT150 in the mid 60's in Norfolk. this might help you if you want to build a model! the attached set of plans are of the Woban class which the 146 was. The 150 was built at the Defoe shipyard ytb142plans 1.pdf ytb142plans 2.pdf ytb142plans 3.pdf ytb142plans 4.pdf ytb142plans 5.pdf ytb142plans 6.pdf ytb142plans 7.pdf ytb142plans 8.pdf Defoe Shipyard Hoga.pdf A set of pictures of 146 YT145 and 146 shortly after launching YT146 fighting fire on the USS Nevada You can download and use scaleprint to scale the plans and use the the bulkhead drawing , I have not been able to find a set of line drawing either Hope this helps! Woyot YTM 150 history.pdf
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It sometimes appears that we are mostly learning from each other! However on occasion we might get some of the more experienced builders to pipe up on our logs. Perhaps if we moved our build logs over to the scratch build section a little more help would be forth coming! Just my two cents not to be taken wrong. I know that this is to be a special build with all of us building from the same set of plans that are provided free of charge, but it feels like we are the only ones telling each other how to proceed. I know I have posted several questions with out getting a learned/professional response to it. Druxley! where are you? this is Chuck's post on why we are separated from the scratch build section ( Because its a special project exclusively created for MSW. We developed the plans and offer them to folks at no charge. This forum was created to start a group that is working on them so ll logs and questions about its construction can be kept in one area. This will help all participating members to compare notes and find information. Chuck). Chuck perhaps an added link from the Scratch build section to our section at the top of the post would be nice?
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I think that where you assume there are additional curves is because of the angle at which the frame sits on the deadwood makes it appear that there is some movement in the fore and aft view of the frame when you are looking dead on to the broadside of the ship. I agree with Daniel! leave a little extra material on the inside and out side of the frame and do not start you final shaping/fairing until all the frames are in place. Look at your Triton DOF framing plans and you can see what looks like curves in the fore and aft cant frames which are in fact the shape of the frames inside and out, as seen on the framing plan you glued on your building board and upper jig board, you will see that the frames are straight and not curved in any manner As you can see from my hawk build in this view the foward cant frames are straight . and a broad side view the cant frames appear to have a bend foward when in fact they are straight up and down The pictures are not perfect but is should give you the idea of how the frames at this point are shaped. I am a visual learner too and it takes some understanding of how each piece of wood in the model is shaped and the bow and the stern are the worst areas to model using this method
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I have Chris Wares book on Bomb Vessels and have started re-reading it. Interesting thought on using these vessels for other types of programs ie: exploration as part of the construction and planing even before the builds keep up the good work on the Terror. I will watch your build liog as you progress
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ancre Le Fleuron by cabrapente - FINISHED
the learner replied to cabrapente's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
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My pleasure sir
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HMS Pandora 1779 in 3D
the learner replied to ppddry's topic in CAD and 3D Modelling/Drafting Plans with Software
WOW! WOW! OMG what fantastic work...do you do commisions?
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