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Ships of the early 17th century: pictures
Louie da fly replied to Mark P's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Actually, doesn't he appear at the very end of the Lord of the Rings - when Frodo goes to the Grey Havens? Steven -
Mr Pleasant, do you have a build log? I looked and couldn't find it. Steven
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David, the JoTika model (like most other commercial kits) has a forecastle that is probably incorrect, because of the lack of available archaeological evidence (so far they haven't found the forecastle), and based more upon galleons than carracks (which is what the Mary Rose was). At the stage you're at on the model, if you want to, you could think about doing the forecastle differently. But it's your model, your decision. Whatever you do, the important thing is to have fun with it. Steven
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I've drawn the lines of the planks on the plug, basically using the technique outlined in the planking tutorials. And at the top you can see the wood I'm going to be using for the planking. Walnut from the dead tree of the guy next door, cut into sheets by the guy across the road. It's nice having good neighbours. And covered it in cling-wrap so the planks don't get glued to the plug. I used packing tape to hold the clingwrap close to the plug, and to keep the keel and stem and sternposts in place. And I've started carving the first trumpeter. Steven
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Ships of the early 17th century: pictures
Louie da fly replied to Mark P's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Look at the designs of Mathew Baker (1530-1630) (do a Google image search) for typical galleons of the late 16th-early 17th century. And of course, there's the Sovereign of the Seas, but that was far bigger than the usual run of the mill ships. You might also look at https://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/sites/default/files/archcant/1990 107 Chatham Dockyard and a Little-Known Shipwright Matthew Baker (1530 - 1613) Blatcher.pdf If you don't want to restrict yourself to English ships, there's the Vasa (1629). I'm sure others will be able to make other suggestions. Steven -
Thanks everybody for the likes and comments. Patrick, that sounds interesting, but as you say, might not be suitable. I'm sure there's something available in Oz - in fact, almost certainly in Ballarat - that will do the job. Steven
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HMCSS Victoria 1855 by BANYAN - 1:72
Louie da fly replied to BANYAN's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
You might find a silver-grey, but perhaps wire rope was painted anyway - if not, you should probably choose a thread that looks like weathered wire. But I'm sure you've already thought of that. Steven- 993 replies
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Those are really nice drawings - very faithful to the originals and very believable as seagoing vessels. Steven
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Yes, I think you're right. I did consider that myself, merging several nefs that incorporated my favourite features, then I decided it would be better to portray one specific nef rather than a "conglomerate". Steven
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Thanks, Paul. I'll check out the wire situation first - It seems to me that those holes really can't get too much bigger without encroaching on the integrity of the deadeyes themselves. Glad you're having fun with the 3D thing in general and the culverin in particular. Is it that amazing one with the helical faces around the barrel? Any chance of some pictures? Steven
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I got this pic off Facebook. Unfortunately it didn't say where the flag is held. Aha! "It's kept in the national maritime museum in Greenwich - and it is 32 ft. x 47 ft. in size." Steven
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Hmm - might be worth considering, Roger. Probably the stuff you get in electrical cord, that gets its flexibility by being made up of large numbers of very fine wires.
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Got the finest available fly-tying thread from Rehfisch's huntin' & shootin' & fishin' shop in Ballarat. SO many ways of killing things up on the wall and in the shelves! And Lo! and Behold! The mass produced deadeyes printed by Paul (HenrytheStaffy) arrived in the mail! To say I'm gobsmacked is putting it mildly. Here are the two sizes he 3D printed and sent me - 2mm on each side (for the lower shrouds for the mizzen and bonaventure masts and the main fore topmasts) and (for heaven's sake!) 1mm on each side (for the upper mizzen and bonaventure shrouds and the main and fore topgallant shrouds). There's no way I could have made even one of the smaller ones by myself, let alone mass-produced them. And even the larger ones are a real trial for me and never completely successful. And here is the finest available fly-tying thread going though one of the holes of the larger sized deadeye ; Unfortunately for me, even that thread won't go through the holes in the smaller deadeyes - they're just SO tiny! Just a matter of modern technology outpacing the materials (and hand-eye co-ordination, for that matter) available. I'm afraid my expectations were a little unrealistic - not of the 3D printer, but of the rest of the resources available to me. I may not be able to get thread through the holes of these tiny deadeyes, but I think I'll be able to set them up in place and glue the thread in front of them so it looks like it's going through the holes. My heartfelt thanks to Paul. You're a legend, mate. You really produced the goods, and exceeded the capabilities of this mere ship-modelling guy. All I can say is WOW! Steven
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HMCSS Victoria 1855 by BANYAN - 1:72
Louie da fly replied to BANYAN's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
Nice work as usual, Pat. Very good result. I was surprised you used brass for the pigeonholes, but on reflection you can probably get more precision that way than with wood. Just out of interest, was there any mention of chain gammoning chafing the bowsprit? Steven- 993 replies
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Trireme Olympias - wonderful footage
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There's been a lot of study on this. Yes, it was hard to keep rowing strongly for any length of time, though an easier pace can be kept up for longer. The Olympias was a good source of practical information on these issues. Steven- 4 replies
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Nice job, Bill. She looks good. Steven
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Beautiful work, Lyle! I'm sure your Dad will love it. Steven
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And a bit more progress on the steersman: I've yet to do his face and a few finer details - but I'm going to leave the arms as they are until I have the ship built and the side rudder installed, so I can get them just right. And the next two figures (the guys in the aftercastle playing the mediaeval trumpet, or buisine) Steven
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I just came across what I think is the most atmospheric (and useful for modellers of ancient vessels) video of the Olympias at sea - including footage of the rowers in action, showing the three levels very well, plus quite a bit with the Greek coast in the background - you could easily believe you'd been transported back to Ancient Greece.
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Good grief! That's nothing short of amazing! Thanks so much, Paul. I don't envy me, either. I doubt ordinary cotton will go through those holes. It looks like I need to check out fly-tying thread. I know BFC doesn't carry it - I'll have to go to the dedicated fishing shop in town. Fortunately we're able to go to the shops tomorrow! (Yay!) Steven
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