Louie da fly
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Good point. Plenty of 15th and 16th century pictures show ships with bonnets but no reef points. At least as many show neither - though in many cases I'm prepared to believe that's artist's error. I know of only a single one (a "great carrack" that doesn't have a date but looks to be early 16th century) that has reef points. Perhaps we're looking at lost technology, which was "rediscovered" later?- 179 replies
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That's the final stage - next thing to do. Mind you the cats aren't allowed into the Boat Room (the name by which my workshop is known at home) so it's relatively safe for the moment.
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Agreed. But they had to be invented at some time - Most contemporary pictorial representations of ships before the 14th century don't show them. Is this because they didn't exist, or did the artist just leave them out?
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Most ingenious, Dick. And up to your usual superb standard of workmanship.
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That's looking extremely good, Silverman. I love your windlass - I wish I'd known about it when I made mine! (I had to copy the Mary Rose windlass, 500 years wrong!)
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Those bottom blocks look very good. A good solution for fixing them to the hull, too. And I agree - she looks better with the boat behind her than alongside.
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Ok, the model itself is finished, and now I've done the stand. The wooden part, painted gold, was done ages ago. The base is made of a piece from a broken slab of marble that was in the garden when we bought the house. Marble - Byzantium; of course they belong together! I was going to paint a fairly elaborate decorative border - vines curling around and all that. Then I decided the focus should be on the ship, not the stand, so I've kept it simple. Just the description and date in a readable font. Unfortunately after all the work I did on carving that beautiful golden stand, it's almost invisible behind the oars.
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Hardly an equal contest - Congress had almost three times the weight of metal and a much larger crew. Savage could have avoided action with a force so superior with no shame. As she was unable to get away, she gave a superb account of herself, surrendering only after losing her mizzenmast and considerable damage to the mainmast, and suffering 42 casualties including the captain. She inflicted almost exactly the same number of casualties on the Congress, though with a considerably lighter broadside. A very valiant defence against heavy odds.
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[Bluebottle voice] You rotten swine! I don't like this game . . . [/Bluebottle voice]
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Thanks everybody for all the help, advice and encouragement during this build - which as taken considerably longer than I expected. You've made the process much more enjoyable, and I have used tips from very many of you in solving problems and in making the model better than it would otherwise have been. It's been an experience. Now to figure out where I go from here . . .
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Oh, and almost forgot . . Fascinating stuff, Cathead. In Western Australia there's a town in the far north-west called Marble Bar, after the big reddish and purple rock outcrop in the local creek. If you ever go to Marble Bar it's traditional to have a beer in the Ironclad pub (built 1891) "The hotel was constructed of corrugated Iron. It was allegedly given the name by American miners who were reminded of the Ironclad ships from the United States." (Wikipedia) The town is celebrated as the hottest place in Australia, "The hottest day recorded for Marble Bar is 49.2 degrees C (120 degrees F) in 1905. Marble Bar is renowned as the hottest town in Australia and can spend every day for more than a month with temperatures topping 40C (104 F)" But the whole point of it is that the "marble" of the bar is actually jasper. You can't trust anybody these days . . . How did you know about the ducks?
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Thanks everybody for the all the comments. It's very nice to have finally finished this build, and I'm pretty happy with the final result. Actually, much appreciated. Just done. I had to figure out how to make it all work - never posted in the galley before. I've got a few ideas, but haven't made up my mind yet - so many choices . . And I still have to finish off the Great Harry. Mustafa must be an Arabian immigrant - which wasn't all that uncommon. A lot of mutual exchange of populations. But a more likely group would be Con, Theo and Iouannis . . .
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Mike, that Venetian ship looks very beautiful. You're doing the right thing by putting it off until you build up your skills. Scratch building is a whole extra level of difficulty, but is very rewarding. I only scratch build nowadays - I far prefer it. When you get to doing the Panart Victory (and I understand you want to ease into the hobby gradually - very wise indeed) there's at least one build log for it here: This might help you with your own Victory project. And you might find others if you do a search (top right of the page) for "Panart Victory".
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Not so sure about the building, Mark - I'm very aware of its shortcomings in that department - but many thanks.
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The awning for the poop has been painted for a long time, with an eagle motif. And now I've painted the substructure to match the rest of the ship, particularly the castles. The columns are wood painted to resemble porphyry, the purplish marble reserved for Imperial use. And now to add the figures I've been saving up all this time. The Emperor (Alexios I Komnenos, known to the vikings as Kirjalax - from Kyrie (lord) Alexios). And now the awning, and the flute-player who gives the time to the oarsmen (far right of the picture, in blue): And the Emperor's Varangian (Viking) bodyguards: And two Imperial courtiers: Unfortunately, you can barely see the Emperor under the awning: I just have to tidy up a couple of ropes and the ship is complete, after more than 5 years! I still have to complete the stand, add a nameplate and make a case. But that's it. I'm already having withdrawal symptoms . . .
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I'm pretty sure that when I was a kid in a youth orchestra we went to Bridgetown as part of a concert tour and we all got billeted overnight by local families - I ended up being billeted at the pub (which was a bit of surprise). I can date it pretty well, because we met a local girl called Rita and Sergeant Pepper's had just come out, so we called her "lovely Rita". Not sure if she got the reference . . .
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Very interesting information. I had no idea sailing performance improved so much in this period. Truly a "maritime Revolution"
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You're off to a good start, Dan. I can see what you mean about having somewhere to store tools, but the workspace looks ok, to start with at least. Maybe down the track you'll be able to organise something a bit more user-friendly, but I've seen the most amazing stuff produced from pretty minimal working spaces.
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That'd be great, Phil. Have you decided on a kit to start with? With your experience you ought to do well. When you begin, make sure you start a build log. Check out these instructions, and note that the build log section is divided up by periods, starting with "up to and Including 1500 AD" and going forward from there. So figure out which period is right for you and put your log there. Where in Perth do you live? I grew up in Attadale but haven't lived in WA for yonks. Say hello to the Swan River for me, will you?
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I've carved the second steersman and finished the hands on the first one, and put both steersmen in place.
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New to modeling where to post a kit build for advice?
Louie da fly replied to bosco72's topic in New member Introductions
There's a completed Airfix Golden Hind build log which might be of use to you . . . And if you put "Golden Hind" in the search bar (top right of the page) you'll find other builds - some non-Airfix kits, and at least one scratch build - they could be helpful in sorting out details. As you probably know, nobody knows what the ship really looked like. All the kits and reconstructions are "best guess" based on the information available from the time. You might in particular like to look at Backer's scratch build - a lot of valuable research information in that one (as well as a brilliantly realised model). -
Nice and relaxing. Better than expending all that energy marching, counter-marching, lugging a heavy pack, firing off rifles . . .
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