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Pretty much finished the bow sprit area. Still need to put on the braces for the yard but I think I am going to wait until I get some of the fore mast sails in so I don’t have to work around the brace lines. It has not been a a very productive week in terms of forward progress. I ended up not liking how the jib sail came out so I took it down and made another one which came out much better in terms of texture. The first one had lots of small wrinkles that when you looked at it he sail by itself didn’t seem too bad. But when it was hanging next to the other sails I did not like it. Also had to redirect some of my lines to adjacent belaying points several times as more lines were added to keel them looking organized. Put some on take some off. I am hoping the bow area rigging is the most involved and the rest goes easier. I spent quite a bit of time reviewing how it all worked so it made some sense when building. Time to start at the top with the fore royal and work my way down. I decided to leave off the fore staysail...at least for now. It was going to be set flying so I guess it could be left off. We will see after the furled fore course sail is up. Don’t want to “over sail” it either. Tom
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My flying jib is now flying! Progress is slow but steady right now. I still need to trim up the excess rope on the belaying pins and put some 50/50 glue on the knots but I think I will wait until all the bow sprit sails are in place just in case I want to reroute something. That has only happened countless times already. That is part of why it is taking so long. Tom
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Hi Jim Very thin annealed wire in the leech and foot tablings. See post #308 of this log and I give a description. Belaying all the rigging in the right spots without crossing too many lines is going to be fun. I laid out a plan for all “one million” lines a while back when making the pin racks. I think I have changed line locations for the bowsprit rigging a half dozen times already! Once you see the line positions in real life on the model you realize better ways to keep the lines from turning into a rats nest. Lots of reading Lee’s Masting and Rigging of English Ships and Harland’s Seamanship in the Age of Sail. This is going to take awhile!🤔 Tom
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Hi Tom, Thanks for the encouragement. Now that the first sail is on, the rest seem a bit less daunting. The bolt ropes are glued on to the edges using Aleene's fabric glue. It is pretty strong and dries clear. Being a fabric glue it is also somewhat flexible. The only "sewing" I did was at the ends of the cringles I tied square knots with 50 wt thread to help hold them to the sail when the rigging line tugs on them. Gave them a bit of reinforcement so the bolt rope does not tear off. The ones at the corners of the sails are just loops created by the continuous bolt rope with a simple overhand knot at the base of the loop to help keep its shape. The glue should be plenty to hold them in place, especially at the head of the sail. There should not really be all that much tension on the cringles from the rigging lines as the billowing shape of the sail is created by the wire under the leach and foot tablings. The rigging lines just need to be taut enough to keep the sail in the correct plane. Tom
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I usually have them at the tops of all the masts. It is just colored tissue paper. My main royal mast fell victim once. Snapped it off at the joint with the top gallant reaching around he back. Live and learn. Tom
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Houston we have propulsion! Actually it probably should be London we have propulsion! I was able to mount my first sail today. It took all afternoon, mostly staring at it figuring out all the intricacies of rigging. This is going to take a while 🤔😮. My goal is to bring the completed model to Modelcon in Philadelphia in August. Should not be a problem but I have learned that I am not the speediest modeler and I can only put a couple hours a day if I am lucky. I would be very hungry if I did this professionally. 😜😁 here is my sprit sail. Now I have to try furling a sail as that is my plan for the top sprit sail. Tom
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Hi John The whale boat is coming along nicely. I have the same light. Picked it up at Harbor Freight a few years ago. For magnification I use an Opti-visor also picked up at Harbor Freight. I find it much easier to work with instead of underneath the magnifier light. I can also swap lenses for different magnification. I haven’t done that yet as the lenses that came with it are fine. I think they are 5x. I would need to check. Now I have the ring light up high over my model and magnifier on my head. Works well. Keep up the great work. Tom
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So I have been playing with sailmaking lately. Finished putting on the bolt ropes and cringles for the sails I plan on hanging (about 18 or so). The lower ones will be furled. Still need to figure that out. In the mean time... let the reef pointing begin! I am rough guessing at about 500 plus. This kind of make ratlines down right exciting 😜😁. Here is the spritsail getting started. And when those are done it will be roband time! That is probably another 500 ropes! Then I can start attaching sails to yards and then attach the yards to the masts. At least that is the plan. Please note that all plans are subject to change without notice... and usually do!😁 Tom
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Is there no rest for the weary!? The CW Morgan isn't even cold yet. 😃 Tom
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Did a google search and this came up. I don’t think this breaks any copyright rules as the Library of Congress has this as a free download. Not sure if this helps. 20100616002tr.pdf Tom
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I told you... it will never be "finished". 😀 Thank you again for the plans. Tom
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JOHN! You made it. The finish line is now behind you. You must be feeling a great sense of accomplishment right now and rightfully so. Time to sit back and enjoy it for a while. Congratulations. It was a pleasure watching it develop into something really nice. Tom
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That is how they are supposed to look from what I found. Tom
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Ian, The first link is the earlier post I mentioned. The second link has the picture I was trying to locate. It is an excellent rendition of hammocks stored in the cranes and netting. I believe the pics start on page 17. Hope it helps. Tom
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Hi Ian like you I am sure someone knows better than I. I believe they were rolled th long way and the folded in half and the stored in the netting with the folding top. I remember seeing a picture of this. It was a demo on hammock making maybe here on MSW. I remember printing it out because I would also like to include them on my ship. When I get home I will try to locate the picture. Tom
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Just found this post on MSW. This should help. Tom Hammocks, cranes and covers By dafi, February 24, 2013 in Discussion for a Ship's Deck Furniture, Guns, boats and other Fittings
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Hi Ian I found this on portandterminal.com. Sailors differentiated between hammocks and bedding. Hammocks were the canvas slings that cradled the bedding, which consisted of mattress, sheets, blankets, and pillow. On Royal Navy vessels, sailors could buy bedding for which they paid through deductions in pay. Detail from A sailor bringing up his hammock, Pallas, Gabriel Bray, 1774, National Maritime Museum Sleeping arrangements were cramped as the diagram below from 1775 shows. According to various accounts, regular sailors were allocated about 14 inches per man for their hammock. There was a numbered pegging system so each man knew where to hang is hammock each night. Disposition of his Majesty’s Ship the Bedfords Lower Deck, artist unknown, circa 1775,* National Maritime Museum. Each morning hammocks would be taken down, sewn up and stowed away topside where they were put in special netting at the side of the ship to act as protection from musket balls under enemy fire. This model of a 19th-century ship shows how the crew’s hammocks would be rolled up and placed topside where they would air and could be used as protection from musket fire. I also remember seeing a demonstration on tying up and folding the hammocks. They were similar to the pic above but were folded in half after being tied then stored vertically in the nets. I just can’t find the text or pictures yet. Tom
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Hi John i was on the Morgan a year and a half ago and took some pictures that look a lot like the ones you are posting. Are you sure those pics aren’t mine?? That model looks an awful lot like the real thing. Hmmmm. 😜😁 the elusive finish line is within reach... well at least until you find another detail to clean up. 🤣. It really looks good. Tom
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John As Tom R. (TomShipModel) mentioned, I have been using Elmer’s white glue diluted with water (1:1) for securing knots. This is the first time I used this Liquitex medium. As Tom R. Said, it can leave a milky residue on dark rope where the diluted PVA does not. that makes a great lead in to my next picture. After sleeping on it I decided I did not really like the dark bolt rope. Just a little to much contrast to the sail... almost distracting. So I took some of the rope I make for running rigging and dipped it into some Special Walnut stain and what came out is much more to my liking. The new rope is obviously the sail on the top. It’s a little more work but I am much happier with it. The lower one is Coats and Clark thread for buttons and craft. The color is Chona Brown which is almost identical to my standing rigging. Okay, I have beaten my bolt ropes to death. Time to run with my decision and go forward! I am going to replace the dark with the lighter rope. Luckily it is only on 2 small sails. The ones in the picture are royals. Doing a lot of one step forward and 2 steps back lately. 🤔 Thanks to everyone for their input. Tom
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Hi John here is a pic of the bottle and uses. I am not much of an artist so I don’t know much about paint mediums and what is used for what. I am just adapting a technique that was shown to me by Ron Neilson at the last “in person” New London” conference a couple of years ago. This stuff acted like a glue in this case so it made sense to use it for securing knots. It dries clear with a matte finish and is a bit pliable. One more reason not to use CA on rope. Tom
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That is the plan. I was actually pleased that the conference was pushed out to October. I don’t think, no wait, actually I know it would not have been finished in April. 😁 Tom
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Hi everyone Here is a little more sail work. I ended up going with the darker bolt ropes. There were cases for both light and dark. After making a couple small sails with the running rigging color I could barely see the rope on the sail. The color was too close to the sail. Including the cringles it was a lot of work that would basically go unnoticed. I leaned toward the more artistic side where the “ordinary” non-modeling person would appreciate the work. Neither one seemed to be wrong from the research I did. Here is how I did the cringles. The head cringles is just a loop with a simple knot at the base to hold it firm. The leech cringles were done by piercing 2 holes first. Second, the bolt rope was glued in place from the head down to the first cringle hole. From that point the bolt rope was just laid in place. I then ran a 50 wt thread through the first hole with a very small sewing needle and tied a simple knot over the bolt rope to hold it in place and start the cringle. Repeat for the second hole. I then took a straight dental pick and pushed it in between the sail edge and bolt rope to form the cringle. Then glued the bolt rope to the edge of the sail up to the next cringle hole and repeated the whole process for the next cringle. I glued all the knots with Liquitex matte medium to hold them and allow me to trim them very close. Here is a close up of the results. It is a bit tedious but I like the results and at 1:85 scale that is about as real as it is going to get; st least for the capabilities of this modeler. 😜 This may rank up there with tying rat lines! Tom
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Tom I am a relatively new member of that club. I am starting to reap the benefits of not only friendships but not trying to reinvent the wheel and seeing others great ideas. Tom
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Hi Tom, I do have that book and it has been a great help. Like you I am not a sailor and learning as I go. As you mentioned, I will not be doing anything regarding the studding sails. Those are stored in the sail room below. 😄 I am not sure what sails I am going to set. I may just take a a picture out of the Seamanship in the Age of Sail book or some other reference and duplicate it. Thanks for the help (I can use all I can get) and the kind words. Hopefully we can see each other in New London at the joint conference in October. Tom
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Hi Mark, Thanks for that enjoyable tidbit of history. I am going to split the difference and go with something in between the dark brown standing rigging and the beige running rigging favoring more the beige side. It will give a bit of contrast to the color of the sail so the rope just won't blend in and get lost. I think that should cover both the artistic and realistic sides of the discussion. Some "tarring" but a mixture that is not as severe/dark as the standing rigging. Tom
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