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Which model do you mean? The scale and material (plastic vs wood) may affect the paints you choose. For example, Revell has plastic kits in both 1/96 and 1/196 which are very different sizes, so you would need a different size paint set. And if you're asking about a wooden model, you might want different paints for wood rather than plastic.
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Survey of wooden Mississippi riverboat kits.
Cathead replied to skipper1947's topic in Wood ship model kits
Mike Dowling recently completed a very nice Chaperon build, and there are several other ongoing builds of other kits. Kurt didn't say so, but he's built an excellent Chaperon and can give a lot of advice and guidance. To my eye, the AL, Mantua, and OcCre kits are not particularly realistic; they may build an attractive model but are rather toylike in appearance, very out of scale and not all that accurate. The Amati and M-E kits appear far more realistic if you care about that aspect of a build. I have not built any of these so cannot give a direct review but there are enough build logs for all to at least get a sense of the materials and scope of work. -
I've never built that kit, but to my eye it appears similar to most "riverboat" kits in looking out of scale and toylike. Such kits can make an attractive model, but shouldn't really be considered accurate.
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What is the proper approach to gammoning between a bowsprit and jib-boom? I'm at this point in my Corel Ranger, which as the original post here suggests, is a schooner without gammoning connecting the bowsprit to the stem, just between the bowsprit and jib-boom, and both the plans and finished photos show no frapping turns, just a straight wrap around both booms. I can easily envision starting with an eye or slipknot looped around the bowsprit, then wrapping successively from fore to aft, but how should it be finished. I can't seem to find a clear answer anywhere.
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It's not a stupid question, just one without a clear answer because there are so many variables. Model Expo's instructions seem to vary in quality depending on how old the kit is; the good news is that all of their kits' instructions are posted on their website, so you can review the entire process before diving in. It's a very helpful way to judge if a kit (and its instructions) are suitable. For example, Sultana has a regular set of instructions and then a long, detailed practicum (I haven't built this kit, but I've consulted its practicum before for some good drawings of certain concepts that apply to other situations). Personally, if something like Niagara is overwhelming you, maybe look for a simpler kit? A nice sloop with one mast where you can learn the basics of rigging and then apply them to a more complex situation? I've heard very good things about BlueJacket, though I haven't built one of their kits yet.
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Steamboats and other rivercraft - general discussion
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Ages of Sail has a (working!) 10mm bell, which is just under 1/2", and a couple others that are a bit smaller. Bluejacket has a 1/4" bell, a bit small.- 281 replies
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What's the original size of the bell, and/or what size do you expect it to be in 1/4" scale?- 281 replies
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Lovely; it's really neat to see it right side up. As for the flight deck, others beat me to it, but you could always install a few balloons instead and consider it a forward naval observation post!
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Looks real nice. How are you doing the lettering? Is that a decal of some kind, or something else?
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I'll "like" it as a gesture of respect for the bonds you felt and feel with those important to you. As an obvious cat lover myself, I empathize with your loss. Best wishes to your friend as well; over a decade ago I worked to recover from a serious neck injury that might have changed my life (well, it still did even though I fully recovered). Merry Christmas or Solstice or whatever else floats your boat (as farmers and land managers, we're partial to the solstice ourselves). I'm looking forward to reading more about your ambitious project whenever life allows you to get back to it.
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Guidance, Encouragement, or just a Sanity Check
Cathead replied to RFP's topic in Wood ship model kits
I'm 37 rather than 77, so it's easy for me to say Go For It, but I do. Think of it this way: most of our projects have value primarily to ourselves. Few of our models will ever be good enough, or unique enough, to matter much to other folks down the road. It's the process that matters, the joy and occupation and mental stimulation that we get out of pursuing these projects. If you never finish, whatever you've accomplished kept you interested and happy during that time, and that's what matters most. A complete or half-complete model will essentially be the same thing long enough down the road, though if you do complete it there will be that much more happiness in your life. I've known, and known of, too many people that can't find anything productive or interesting to do with their time, retired or otherwise, and it makes me sad, as I feel I could have five lifetimes to explore all that I'm interested in. Think of the joy that it will bring, not only to yourself, but to all that care about you, that you have a project and a passion to interests and pleases you. Think of it as some of the cheapest health care you can find. Go for it. -
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Apologies for misunderstanding your original question and jumping to conclusions; I should have asked for clarification first. Oh well, just a few more pixels spilled. I wonder if some of the "dangling" in photos relates to the likelihood of these boats being photographed while pulled up on a levee where encounters with other boats were more likely. Certainly in Cap'n Bob's photo above, that boat is ashore and might well have another boat come alongside at any moment, so it makes sense to leave the fenders out even if the narrow photo view makes it look unnecessary. It would be interesting to compare photo sets and see if there's any correlation between onshore and underway in the arrangement of the fenders.- 281 replies
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Oh, interesting, I see how that could also match leclaire's description. The photos are certainly helpful. In that case I don't know, but your guess of bumpers does make sense, particularly for boats commonly pulled up in the close-packed confines of a busy levee like St. Louis.- 281 replies
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I used artist's pastels on a few plastic models, such as in my avatar. It came out nicely and the pastel grain gives the surface some texture that helps obscure the plastic sheen.
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Bob, It sounds to me like you're describing grasshopper spars, which were used to lever steamboats over/through particularly low-water places like sandbars. They were particularly common on rivers like the Missouri which were sediment-dominated (unlike the mostly bedrock Ohio and upper Mississippi), and thus so shallow that boats routinely got stuck but soft enough that doing so didn't rip their bottoms out. Here they are on my Bertrand, an 1865 boat from the Missouri River. You can read a much more thorough description of their setup, purpose, and use in the Bertrand build log, which has a whole post dedicated just to this feature. Grasshopper spars were a key technological innovation that allowed boats to navigate the upper reaches of Great Plains rivers that would otherwise have been inaccessible to steamboats, and really mark a boat geographically. The quick version of their function is that, yes, tney are free-swinging, but are linked to a steam winch/capstan. They hang from twin booms which can be positioned over the side of the bow as desired, and are then allowed to drop into the river, planting the dense, heavy poles into the sand. Then the winch is engaged, which tightens the lines running to the poles' tops, drawing the steamboat up out of the water as if on crutches. At the same time, the wheel is engaged to drive the boat forward (or backward, if needed), essentially levering the boat up and over (or off) the sandbar. This operation was repeated as needed until the boat was clear; the appearance of this repeated motion, and of the tall poles, gave the spars their name. These boats' hulls were so flexible (no equivalent keel to a sailing ship) that they could quite literally slither over a sand bar and back into deep water beyond. The spars gave the boat leverage at the bow to combine with the power at the stern (sternwheelers were most commonly fitted with these for upper river use, as sidewheelers generally couldn't handle conditions as shallow). Does this match what you were asking about?- 281 replies
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Such a neat model, in both senses of the word.
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Looking really nice. What did you build the boiler out of?
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I, too, think the brass is preferable, given that it's a closer match to the common yellowish tones of the boat as you've built it. If I were to use the same material for my boat, which is in a white and black color scheme, I'd probably go with blackened, once again to best match the color overall.
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Well, good thing I ordered both blocks and line from Syren today! I had recalled the same experience from the two MS boat kits I've done and decided to spend my credit there on other stuff. Thanks for the feedback, sir.
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Well, no worries, I've done my orders and now eagerly await better stuff to work with. In the meantime I have a busy work week and a spousal birthday on Saturday, so not much will likely get done soon anyway.
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Thanks to both of you. It's too bad I already did the deck blocks, but I also tended to choose the best of the lot for that job, so even after re-inspection I think they'll serve. Or I suppose I could cut 'em off and try my hand at attaching new ones straight to the rings. Hmmm. Anyway, it's the support network and the presence of actual builders/sellers like Chuck and other small businesses on here that make this such a great place (and yes, my membership in NRG is up-to-date so I'm not just saying that!). While I wait for all this new stuff, I'll probably work on shaping the masts and rebuilding the cross-trees from scratch (another crappy metal piece I've given up on, and they should be wood anyway). Matt, is M-E's rigging line any good? I ask because I have an unused credit there and budget is always a concern for me. I'm definitely ordering blocks from Syren.
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