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Coming along very nicely! She builds into a pretty model, and you are definitely making her pretty.

Greetings, Jack - just came across your build. She is coming along nicely - you are doing well overcoming challenges the kit maker created! That first planking looks nice. I'll just lean against the bar over here and watch the next installment.

Finally got a second to try and catch up on some logs - looks nice, Denis!

Good thread here, jazzchip. Thanks for asking your question! Like you, I had no familiarity with working with wood when I started. I also did not find MSW and MSB until some time after I started. I share the frustrations of many over poorly written instructions. One model has been kept on a dark dusty shelf for nearly 3 years, partly built, because the instructions are so poor. A shame, really, because it is a subject I really want to buils! For me, devining from a set of line drawings what I should do next (let alone how to build the next piece) is akin to asking someone to bake pompadour pudding from a picture (ask nicely and I'll send you the recipe). It is not intuitive to everyone.

I have a vague recollection of Rees mentioning and showing Waldo (though he called it something else) in his Cyclopaedia. Alas, I am packing ti move and my hard copy is somewhere in a box.

Beautiful work, Tony. A piece to be proud of!!!

Beautiful!!

Hmmm...I think that would be a net loss, Sal - it is an old, unfinished, low ceiling dirt floor basement (brick foundation circa 1900). The garage is, indeed, heated - and with about half of it available for the shop, should be plenty of room! Just means I still need to clean snow off the pickup this winter.

What time frame? Practices (and international agreements) have changed over the years.

Wonderful subject - sorry to be late!

Thannks, Augie. The 3 boys have claimed the 3rd floor for their "man cave", so I have negotiated 1/2 of the garage from the Admiral inn exchange for a new stove and refrigerator. Wonder what I'd get if I sweetened the pot with more yarn......

Well, we close on the new house tomorrow. Then the moving and some remodelling (mostly paint and such) begins! View from the street Site plan - only the house and the garage remain, the others have been torn down. The new ship yard will be located in the right bay of the garage (for now, at least!)

As you may know, the long awaited Volume I is now available for order. HOWEVER - due to circumstances beyond the control of Bob & Cathy at Seawatch Books, our good (?) friend Murphy has intervened. See below for a posting from their website http://www.seawatchbooks.com/NewsForthcomingBooks.htm Thanks, Bob & Cathy, for posting this info - rest assured that at I will continue to support you via book acquisition as you work through this very terrible event! DISASTER ALERT The truck carrying the entire printing of our new title "The Rogers Collection" overturned in Oklahoma on its way to our distribution center in Kansas City. The entire shipment of close to 1000 books was destroyed. (The copies involve any that were ordered at the NRG Conference and needed to be shipped including any that have been ordered online since 11/1.) We have confirmed this awful event today with a visual inspection of the shipment. We have contacted the printer in Dallas, Texas and they will immediately begin working on reprinting the book. We hope to have new books in 2 weeks. Please continue to order, and we will fulfill the orders in the order received as soon as the books arrive at the distribution center. We are ever so sorry for the delay. We will keep you informed here as to the progress of the reprint. (We are still trying to figure out what we did to Murphy!!) If you want or need more information, please email us or call us. 541-997-4439. Bob and Cathy Disaster Update Our printer is responding to our disaster by ordering more of our special paper and all of the case making supplies, and so we will be back on press by Monday for a reprint. Concurrently, they will begin making the hard cover cases, jackets and end papers. The result will be that we will have replacement books no later than Thanksgiving and possibly sooner. These are actions above and beyond normal business for a printer, and a case of bubbly will be heading to Dallas when the smoke clears. Oh, and of course, the insurance companies and lawyers will be having a party too. So, help keep SeaWatchBooks afloat as we limp into harbor. Continue to place your orders with the confidence that we have the situation back in hand.

In general, the deck and the waterlines were parallel to each other. They may or may not be parallel to the keel. I believe that the rake was reference to the waterline/deck when there was a difference. This can be verified by measuring the rake angle on the plans in reference to each location. In the actual vessel, the masts (with possible exception of the mizzen) were stepped on the keelson, then passed through each deck. In a model, depending upon the type you are building, they may only be mounted through the upper deck onto a bulkhead (POB style), but if a full POF model they could be mounted to the keeelson.

Of course, the reason that PPE has evolved is because it is not a natural motion to carve away, there is an apparent lack of fine control percieved in that motion and, thus, we instinctively do it the other way. I have been lucky thus far, but will be investing in gloves for myself and my 8 year old grand daughter apprentice, who happens to have a form of haemophilia.

What they said, Adam. I hear tell that CA judiciously applied aids in becoming one with the tools......

Greetings, Lawrence, and thanks for stopping by! Currently I am packing up the shipyard again getting ready for another move. Close on the house the end on the month (great Halloween treat!). This time, just moving down the street into a house with plenty of room for us, the grand kids, and a shipyard. Hope to start building again mis-December.

See comments above. (Don't you hate it when life gets in the way of relaxation? Hope all is well, Denis. )

Coming along nicely, Mobbsie. Looking forward to the cannon!

There is a (Swedish?) website with extensive info on Chapman, including high res of his drawings (I think it is Chapman.net). Official site, I think part of a museum. Chapman was quite a character and worth reading up on.

Regrettably, American builders were not noted for using plans until late 18th/early 19th century, and even then most were disposed of after building. Millar did a great job taking anecdotal and sparse documentary information, applying logical analysis to develop possible drawings. I like your conjectural process - similar that used by Chapelle and Millar but with easier access to a lot more information! For those that would insist on 100% historical accuracy, good luck! Few plans at the NMM can claim 100% accuracy for as built, particularly as regards internal construction, deck arrangements, rigging and belaying plans (well, you get the picture). Keep digging, Charlie! Time for that trip to the historical society in Philly (but wait until the Popeleaves) to check the sources Brewinton used.

While not able to answer about the wales, I can discuss a bit about design waterlines. Regrettably, they were more art than science. The designer showed where the ship should float, but it all depended on lading and ballast to achieve. The British didn't adopt more scientific methods of calculating displacement until mid-1800's, even though early (approximate) methods were known in the mid to late 1600's.

When in doubt, refer to source documents if available. It appears that the blue material desired was purchased in bulk from Macy's (Mr. Seth Macy of Hudson, NY). For a brief listing of slops, see page 133 in The Naval War of 1812 a Documentary History Volume 1. Editted by William Dudley, 1985. Printed by US GPO, no copyright restrictions. A poor scanned version is available on line, printed copies sometimes available but rarely inexpensive.

Terminology on these things is odd! Not really a keel (although the bottom is intended to simulate the keel). Bulkhead former sounds much better! You may also be able to keep the bend out by using some type of keel clamp (Amati sells one, and there are numerous examples of building boards on the forum that could be useful). Even after clamping flat the bend could reassert itself, hence trying to hold it square while adding bulkheads and planking. Good luck!

Looking good, Max. Love that windlass! I doubt the rope was tarred - just a dirty look to reflect the immersion in the ocean followed by drying below deck. The last 30 or 40 feet would probably be mud stained and more scarred from periodically lying on the seabed (rarely would the cable be taut to the surface). Not sure if there would be chain - this was mid-19th century, about 1870's, as I recall?