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Here we go, just fixed the first version of the cranes, nettings and hammocks in my report: #335 As I always see this as a chance to try out things and to use it to verify the results here the thoughts that arose: The thickness of the hammock is orientated onto the films of the US navy of 1915 which should be near the RN-results. The crane has exactly the double of the thickness of the hammock, so this too makes sense respectively the U-shape bending of the hammock. The question that was asked in my german forum is: Is this correct as there is faaaaaar less then 800 hammocks fitting onto the decks. The fo´castle has 35 each side in this version. Where were the other ones stowed? Daniel -
Thank you Mark, B.E., Robin and Popeye :-) Very appreciated! Yes Popeye, those are the cranes from my own etch part series (some subliminal advertising) :-) These are even not painted but only blackened using the normal Krick blackener. I use this one on all the brass parts (apart from assembly instructions) as it provides a good base for painting and avoids shiny gaps where the color did not end up. All the best, Daniel
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... and the most tricky, cleaning up the top edge with some fine and sharp nail scissors - without cutting the top rope! Looks intriguing enough :-) And another fascinating task, painting the hammocks using my beloved casein paints with all kind of whiter shades of pale ... ... looking if the colors work if hidden behind the netting ... ... some differentiation with some more different shades of ochre ... ... put in place ... ... gently and pushed in :-) Fascinating! And as you see on the left - the Tic-Tac would not fit in :-) Good night and sleep well, Daniel
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So far so good, but the next part was a bit scary ... ... you remember, on the heads and in the fighting tops I already tried some netting. But it was quite ridgit and I knew not what would come out now. So put the gaze into a cardboard frame ... ... and painted nicely with beige, added some plain white and dirtied it with very diluted black ink. Easy to see how the appearance became more homogenous. Then did a test fit and realised how the holes got stuck on the hammock cranes ... ... but it looked ok so far. Some test handling on the outside ... ... proved that the netting should curl outside instead of inside. Then introduced some papers as introduction help and introducing the netting was no subject of getting stuck any more :-) Got the front paper out, adjusted the height towards the rope ... ... and glued with CA the netting onto the rope . Then used the hammocks to press down the netting ... ... pulled out the back paper and also the hammocks, used pincers to hold rope and netting together and used CA to fix. Then cut the side length ...
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Great idea, just make sure, that the legs wont flip in while working! XXXDAn
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Hello Popeye and Kevin, the height is 1,5 mm, the thickness is 0,2 mm :-) Yes there were on the stern too: #296 And here the ones from Royal George', that sank in 1782: http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/63420.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/102769.html XXXDAn
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Thank you Lawrence, "seam to apply them so easily" it just seems so, I already was breaking my mind for some months with this topic before I started working and still things came out totally different than expected - even not to mention the affair with "Kevins wabbits beans". It is always a bit of a darkride like typing some unknown numbers of a telefonbook and making the best out of the conversations that comes along ... The marks are 1,5 mm in hight :-) All the best, Daniel
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Thank you Grant and Eddie, I promise to not spoil you with my cakes ;-) The good thing on such a complex model is, if you do not have too much time, there is always a small corner that fits to the time slot :-) XXXDAn
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No Kevin, the netting is just omitted until now as it is the last thing to be fixed for modeling reasons. It is always there, with hammocks, without (as seen in Portsmouth) and even when the protecting covers are over the hammock cranes. XXXDAn
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Thank you Antispiral, B.E., Dan, Popeye and Mark :-) But the starter came out fast and swift and afterwards the hammocks looked much more tidy, especially on the bottom :-) XXXDAn PS: The cranes are bend open for easier handling and black lines of the lashing are mere orientation for me and are not meant to stay.
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Do not worry Andy, I did not steal Kevins properties ;-) This is how it looks if Fimo/Milliput is baked with 230° Celsius instead of 110° as blind dafi got confused by the english temperature beside the german writing and vica versa ... ... nicely black and blown up ... .... so got the Fimo out again ... ... first the ball, then the thick sausage, then a medium sausage of 4 mm with the use of a small sheet with 4 mm spacers, and then the thin sausage of 3 mm with the flipside ot the tool with 3 mm spacers. Afterwards I used a "comb" with small wires in 2 mm distance to roll in the 7 lashings representing the 7 seas ... ... then bent the parts, distributed it on the oven plate and baked on the right tempersture. Funny to see the bloated black been beside. And I got a nice stack of rolled hammocks :-) Then filed the touching surfaces ... ... glued the parts together while paying tribute to gravity in the middle of the nettings. This is still the rough version, paint will be easy, but the netting will still need some fiddling around to be figured out properly ... All the best, Daniel
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Thank you for your intrest and your great support! ...hihihihihihi... ...hohohohohoho... ... looks like dafi entered the coffee roasting business too ... ...hihihihihi... XXXDAn
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Wonderful work, Daniel
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Hello wefalck, the best material I found so far is a tulle from the craftshop for decorating presents and flowers. it comes in 50 mm width. The tulle from the cloth department usually has a hexagonal shape and is therefor not a very good choice. Luckily this one has the needed square/rhombic shape but is a little bit sturdy and difficult to color. I already did some tests on the heads and it proved to be quite good down there. I made a jig to give it a frame and to paint it properly. Afterwards it was sewed on. It gets a bit the wanted unevenness of the original. Also applied on the fighting tops. But I do not know yet how this will be applied on the hammock cranes properly, still have to use my brains a tad ... Amicalement, Daniel
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Thank you all, so finally a new version, 30 cm diameter and 180 cm length. And the bend shows up - great hint from wefalck for no rain or spray can be collected in there. Looking more reasonably? XXXDAn PS: Just to make shure: The netting is still missing on purpose ;-)
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Hello everybody, thank you for your feedback :-) @Guy: Yes it worked rather well with the hair pins. If not just look for something stronger that does not squeeze the rope too much. Daniel
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Hello Mitch, I already used the wood-on-plastic method on my Vic. Look here: #9 #62 All the best, DAniel
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ancre LE BONHOMME RICHARD by Jeronimo - FINISHED
dafi replied to Jeronimo's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
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Hello Patrik, this would be the other way round than the Belle Poule ... Daniel
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Thank you wefalck, this is one of my questions. The hammock rolls in Bradys book and in the pictures of the american Navy look rather sturdy. Was it possible to bent them like into U-turn? DAniuel PS: It was meant to be children´s clay :-) I corrected it, thank you.
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Thanks Dennis. Just for testing purposes: Children clay, made rolls of 3,5 mm, long about 19 mm and taking a glimpse how this could look in the cranes. Could this be ok like this? What were original length and diameter of the sausage? The securing was done by 7 marlin hitches representing the seven seas. Lieber Gruß, Daniel
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Did not have too much time lately, but today managed to do a tiny-tiny bit :-) First lashed the guns as defined by the Navy Board ... ... then tried out the hammock cranes ... ... and with connecting rope ... ... :-) XXXDAn
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Nice work, and lovely to see a yellow version :-) Daniel
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Great work Gary, a pleasure to see!, Daniel
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Thanks Popeye, and Dirk it is quite interesting and intriguing to see the difference on the gun port lid fittings as soon as you look closer. That each lid has his own and unique form is quite well known: the curve of the deck, the cutting though the whales and the doubling of this planking in combination with the vertical frames. Also the Navy-Board defined the size of the gun ports by the calibers. But just the intended ones while building so that a later change in ordonance was leading to inconsistencies in the caliber/size ratio. Also the details are interesting. Todays Vic in P shows five different versions. - The lower deck has the small build in vent scuttles. For practical reasons I do believe, that the hinge should point forwards, for that waves slamm this small lid close and no open. So we have a starboard and port version. Two lanyards and two eyebolts on the inside for good and secure lashing when shut - The middle deck is much the same, with no vent scuttles: Also two lanyards and two eyebolts on the inside - The upper gun deck had much smaller ports, here we have two lanyards and just one eyebolt on the inside - The Lids on the quarter deck cabins have two versions: - the classical lid with just one lanyard and also one eyebolt on the inside - and the half lids opening sideways in the area of the channels too protect the deadeyes from the fire (if I understood right) Yes Dirk, thank you, no matter the material one uses, with a little bit of soul applied it could look like this: Cheers, Daniel
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