Chuck

That does look wonderful all fitted out.....really good stuff. Looking forward to the rigging stage!!

My bad...yes it was the Cumberland....its been a few years. I was torn between the two and did go with Cumberland....and yes if anyone is wondering we do have permission to use it.....

Its OK to use if you like the color...its certainly softer. Lately its been tough to find pieces that dont have a lot of figure. There are dark inclusions and a very noticeable grain most often.....but its a nice wood. Chuck

If you didnt create it....you have no claim to it .....and you shouldnt profit from it. If you want to use it...you must pay the person who created it or ask their permission to use it...simple rules in society. Period Unless you reach out to the creator, and make amends for not having the skills or creativity to think it up yourself. Otherwise its no different than you breaking into my home and stealing from me. Those people are called parasites and thieves with small brains unable to innovate on their own. I personally loathe these self-serving, greedy individuals... ...and anyone who thinks otherwise because they might be too cheap to pay for the original or two lazy to ask permission....the willingness to support these parasites is just as bad.....and the law is not on their side thank heavens...at least not in this country...you could however move to China. Locking this because its just going round and round.....and remember, even though we do have international members on this forum, it is based in the good ole U. S. of A. This topic was not created to open a discussion on copyrights. It was created to define the NRG Policy. The NRG will always protect the rights of the creator and their wishes and not those of the profiteer. Members can have a different opinion but understand that all members not adhering to the policy and choosing to post or use copyrighted material obtained without proper compensation or permission from the authors...... will be warned and then finally banned if repeatedly in violation. Chuck

HMS Tremendous...74 gun third rate.

Looks very good....

So fantastic to see this log.....I cant wait to see the decorative work and small fiddly bits take shape. Chuck

That is looking just fantastic. Well done.

Thank You.... Also keep in mind that "borrowing" photos from Flickr or facebook is never a good idea. See this link. Link removed because topic was deleted as planned... Slowly scroll down the page. You can see how many that are now broken and not doing anything positive for MSW. You were a busy beaver Crackers. Remember also that this is how photographers make their money. Its no different than any other business. Respect the copyrights of others! Just ask for permission. 99% of the time they will be fine with it. Just dont be afraid to spend the time to get permission. Thanks again

Reminder....Official NRG/MSW Policy Photos and plans etc. If you don't own it, or you didn't take the photo yourself........seek permission to post it. Or don't post it.... Please give the photo owner credit and post where you got the image from.... If it has a watermark....don't post it unless you include a few words on how you have received permission to post it. If you spot a post that looks like a copyright was violated...please report the post so a moderator can take a look at it. Please dont copy and paste photos from other sites without doing your due diligence first. Thank You very much in advance.......repeat offenders will be warned....or worse Kits/Plans/Parts: If a company/individual is known to have pirated either plans or designs from another source in order to profit from the original authors work...stolen really. Use of those plans, kits or parts is prohibited on MSW. Promotion of those pirated plans and or kits and or companies that sell them is also prohibited. No links may posted to sites that sell or promote pirated products unless approved by admin. Thank You very much in advance.......repeat offenders will be warned....or worse

To see how funny this isnt.....check out the Amazing Photographs forum......see how much trouble this creates with a recent development that could be costly........ http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2461-amazing-photographs/page-289#entry382024

Very true......I will of course copy and paste this original post by Greg into the topic of Amazing photographs. We were contacted on two occasions by folks who owned the pictures copied and pasted in their by our members. Luckily the owner only wanted recognition and we edited the posts to reflect that. We basically have two or three members who just troll the web and facebook for photos and repost them here and it is very dangerous for us. All attempts to get one of them to stop has been futile. But please do keep this mind. What is socially a fun thing for you to do turns out to be a nightmare for our staff and also frustrates other members who have to look between your posts like this for anything else worthwhile. Chuck

I dont think it really matters either way actually. Both work.....

Great start Rusty....good to see you back in the workshop and starting a log!!!!!

As Mark said, 80 grit or even 60 works for me....then finish it off with some finer stuff....

It could be a million things....It could be a problem with the carved hull now being put into kits vs how it was 8 years ago. Its tough to say without seeing pictures. Could be that you just measured wrong also. I built that so many years ago that its hard to say with so little info. Can you post pictures and give some measurements etc. Chuck

Just bumping this up to the top...I have noticed many NOT-SO-NEW members creating really bad build log titles. At least pretend to follow the rules......Thanks Unless you just expect a moderator to t=do the work for you...please create appropriate build log titles......Thank You

Looking great. Well done....Take your time on that planking when it starts!!!!

Its not about offending anyone...its just that a beginner needs time to develop the expertise to recognize what is better or what is sub par. This only happens with the passing of time and learning. The other ingredient is passion. The willingness to want to "upgrade" has to do with how passionate one is about the hobby as they progress...as well as budget. You would not believe how many times I am asked by a beginner why my blocks have two holes and not just one. Most dont yet realize or ahve not learned yet that its because the two holes simulate a sheave. It more accurately reflects the true shape and function of a block. Once they learn that they can make a better choice as to whether it is worth the money for increasing accuracy and the overall look and feel. It takes time and kit companies know this. So with the overwhelming majority of builders being new or intermediate they cant possibly get folks to try and take the initial plunge if all the kits were filled with exceptional parts. For those who do have the expertise and grow to be passionate enough about the hobby....there are places to go...like the Lumberyard and Syren. Its a much smaller group of customers. Both have their place...its no different than any other hobby. The typical larger kit company will never produce a kit with parts like I make....it cant be done. They wouldnt be a large company with so many customers if they did. Thats why I am a small company with many less customers. You can sell 500 kits of the Sultana per year or 35 Cheerful packages......different audiences at different levels of the hobby . Its the same for all hobbies. I could have made one phone call to Model Expo and sold my Cheerful Kit design in a heartbeat. But my guess is they want to sell more than 35 per year and what you would end up getting would be much different than what I currently offer....for the same reasons. Its nothing to be shocked about. Its just the way it is and always will be.

Model Railroading as well. You can spend $700 on one engine and even more on other stuff. So its not as unusual as some say. Spending $750 on a good quality ship model kit is not outrageous at all in comparison. Its just a smaller group of people and its tough to make a profit regardless. The overall question is that most beginners and intermediate builders feel better when they know they have received everything in one box. But for those who have done it for a while are more comfortable with buying a timbering set or just portions of a project. I know nothing about golf....which clubs....which balls....what gloves....if I were to spend a ton of money as a beginner I would just buy a complete package or set that was not at all top of the line quality. If I really got into it, then maybe I would buy more expensive single clubs and accessories. Same is true for model railroading...I can buy a small in expensive set in one box where you get a tiny circle of track and then after a short time maybe start buying more stuff thats better......its all relative. Some will never do it or see the need to, and they are quite happy with a straight out of the box kit project. Others want to do better and dont mind paying for the extras later as they develop an eye for what is better....and they dont mind throwing away the crap that usually comes in a kit....the last stage is to just build it all yourself...and anyone can do that if they are so into the hobby that they have now spent money on the tools etc.....just like the other hobbies. Its no different. Every hobby has its share of crappy products directed at the begginer which are cheaper...its just the same old typical beginner introduction to any hobby and it progresses from there.

Ever tried to take up a hobby like golf. It is just as expensive. If not more. Its all relative. Folks always start with kits and then some move on to scratch. Its the way its been for 75 years. It just depends on how much you like it. If I spent 600 bucks on golf equipment and didnt want to spend more on the better stuff.......its very common. Those that really get into it spend 1000's of dollars each year. Some never get to that level of play however. Same is true for for our hobby. Chuck

Amen brother!!!

Duh....scratch that...look at the pinned topics.

Best to ask that question in the triton forum. I have never built it...but someone must n know. There may even be a topic about it already....just look around. I cant imagine that question not being asked before.

Indeed there are many sheets. About 40 give or take. Enlarging the plans isnt an issue if they are for your own personal use only. But because they are PDF you may be able to do it at home if you have that capability. Chuck