garyshipwright

Hi Every one, Its been awhile since my last update and most probably figure I fell off the ends of the world. Well the misses sent me a life line and finally went back to doing some thing on her. I sort of been stuck on the cables and how the messenger was routed. Ben from Ropes of Scale help me on the cable and Druxey gave me the ideal about the snatch block. So I went to work on making a snatch block for the messenger using Lee's measurement, from his book The Masting and Rigging of English ships. It didn't come out to bad But I leave that up to you.

Hi pm. I do believe that the showing of the eyebolts on the outside were a french/continental preference. But am also not sure that this was that, a preference. When you go through the photo's of the models in the Musee de la Marine collection, Historic Ship models you will see that most of them do not have the through bolts on the outside just like the English models in the NMM. Doesn't mean they didn't do it but each country did things a little different in their ship building. In one of the contract that I have, and was written in 1782 for a 74 gun ship, which I believe was also used for the Bellerophon, has information on how the eyebolts were installed for the gun ports. To have four Ring, and two Eye bolts to each gun port with bolts of 1 3/8 inches diameter two of the ring bolts to be place in the second timber from the port, the rings 5 inches diameter in the clear, the eye sufficiently open for the tackle hooks. To have sufficient number of ring bolts on the deck for the guns, with bolts of 1 1/8 inches diameter and for the stoppers with bolts of 1 5/8 inches diameter the diameter of the rings of the stopper bolts 6 1/2 inches in the clear with short snug eyes, let well down into the deck and the ends of the bolts to be clenched. To have two eye bolts over each port for lashing the guns of 1 1/4 and to be placed as high as possible , to give the better room for securing the muzzle of the gun on the clamp, the eyes to be 2 5/8 inches in the clear, the ring and eye bolts to be well forelocked and so well let in, as only to let the ring have play, the bolts that forelock with out board to have short thick points and fore lock holes that the rings may be let into the wood in belaying them. It is your model and if you want to show the through bolts, that is total up to you and others. It is a nice detail but I think I will wait on the next one that I do. This is a little late but maybe it might help the next person. Gary

Hi Siggi. I gain a lot of information when going through your log and really enjoy what the crew is doing, which is a really outstanding job. Watching what your doing really help's my crew carry on with building Montague/Alfred. Look forward to the next job that your crew under takes in the coming future.

The pear wood has been sold.

Outstanding Piotrek. What a wonderful build and the detail is out of this world. Thank you for giving us the chance to look at and enjoy your build on a very well built ship model. Gary

Hi Kevin I have to agree with you on the movement because Alfred's frames did the same thing when I was trying to sand them down. One of the things I did, is along the same lines but I made some temporary ribbands and use bread ties to tie then in place. Didn't think about PVA at that time You can get roll's of this stuff, at a cheap price. The photo's below show some of the temporary ribbands.

Alan you will know when its finished when you ran a plank across it and your fingers feel nothing but a level area from bow to stern. This and when your happy with it. It looks like your have a lot of fun but she does look good from my screen. Another thing you could do is cut some small battans and planks and tie them to the hull at different height and this will help you figure out if its faired. Of course you already knew this about the above items. Gary

Nice job Toni, you done a heck of a job and enjoyed watching you build it. Thanks for sharing. Gary

Bitao, that is one outstanding build you have going. She is looking great and ship shape. Look forward to your next update. Gary

Looking good Alan. Now were have I seen this hull before? When it came to Alfred those many years ago I broke up a glass from a picture frame and use the pieces to help me with all the differnt angle's and tight places. Do be carefull if you do. Can't ever remember cutting my self, not sure were I read this.

Good Evening Mark and thank you. That's not good, search results being very limited. Seems it could cause a big traffic jam and long waiting list. I spent a few hour's today and yesterday looking through their plans but never found one of the Queen, accept a deck plan. Well the search goes on. Once again thank you. Gary

Thanks Druxey. Well I will give Pen and Sword Books a try. Thank guys. Gary

Thank's Druxey I have already done that, just have not heard any thing back. Hi Siggi your right sir they do have plans but as you said not this one and thank you. Hi Bruce. am not sure but can you let me know how I go about finding that out, picture credit that is. Thanks again guys. Gary

Hello every one. I have a question and hope that you good folk's can help shed some light on this. I am trying to find this print of the Queen of 1769 in Arnold and Henry Kriegstein newest book which is a joy to read and looking at the model's in his book, Historic Ship Models of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries in the Kriegstein Collection. The photo is on page 245 of the Queen of 1769, a second rate which says that it is draft shown to King George 3rd in 1773. I have contacted the NMM for a number and maybe getting a copy but with out the plan number it a little on the hard side. I did go through the plan site that Allan showed us but no Queen of 1769. I also have been looking through the NMM site for it but so far nothing. I also sent a email about it to seaforth publishing but nothing back from them yet. Any help would be great and most helpful. Thanks guys. Look forward in hearing from you. Gary

Very well put good sir,

Hi Shipman. You are right and time is short but one can think of it like this. When you build your ships you probably get a lot of enjoyment out of it, just like myself and others. Building the inside I get just has much enjoyment as building the out side even through we won't see it, that is unless you take photo's of them. A lot of folks like you self also don't like building the inside, but that's ok because there is also a lot of folks like to build the inside. It like building a 32 pounder on the gun deck. It takes awhile and building a cannon with a lot of detail just to be hidden by the upper deck, will not be seen so why build them. Guess because I like building them and installing as much detail as my skill will let me. They are just going to be hidden any way and all you will see is the barrel of the cannon. But I still get enjoyment out of building them and adding the detail to them hidden or not. I build them because of the sheer enjoyment that one get's from building a ship. You say that you will never understand the dubious ideal that considerable work on what will be entirely invisible details has any merit what so ever. Well a lot of folks like building the inside knowing that one day it will be covered up. The question is who's merit???? If you get merit out of you building then you must be enjoying it much as I do, making the parts and pieces that go in to it. Of course you may never understand it unless you do it. Which is your chose but getting the enjoyment out of your build is the most important thing. Here is a photo of the magazine that one can not see now in her hold but can be seen with a photo, no pun intended good sir.

Hi Mark. Sounds like one building a model tank, build it with the guts or just build it as a hull. Lets us have a choice. I much prefere to build it with the guts. To me much more interesting even if I can't see the inside. At least I know it's there. Gary

Looks outstanding Bitao. Really enjoy looking in on your build and help's me to work harder on my build, to do better on her construction

Boy do you have you work cut out for you with all those books. Only kidding and a big welcome to you and your misses. Didn't know what I was going to do about my book addiction. Once again a big welcome. Gary

Thank you popash42 hope that you enjoyed it. Seems am a little slow at the moment but hope I will be picking up the pace soon. Gary

Hi Allan. Nice plant stand's and its a good thing the misses has not seen them or I never get back to work on my ship. Keep up the good work. Gary

Thanks Hubac and druxey, missed you guys to.

Hi Mark and thank you very much. Nice to see you are back out it to. Maybe I just may be able to get some work done on Montague in the future. Gary

Thanks Tony. I really enjoy working in the shop but because of all the honey do's hard to get to spend much time in there. With winter coming I just may get to spend more time in there. Thanks Johann. The table top goes down to 2 foot 6 inches from the floor so at the moment gives me about 4 feet to work on her above her upper deck. Figure if I need a lower table then that, I just get some shorter electrical actuators but thats for the future. Gary

Hi Johann. Out standing job sir and the scissor lift looks good. I built mine a few years ago and the only item that I purchase to build it was the electrical actuators and power supply which were less then 75 dollars I believe. You can find good ones on ebay and amazon. I used the wood that I had in the shop and I believe that was plywood. Has come in real handy and am always moving it up or down to just to get the right height. I wanted to buy one but like JD said, they are very expensive. Since then I have put wheel's on it that fold up when am not moving it around which came from Rockler. Gary