Keith Black
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I'm all over the board trying to figure out what the scale is for this model. If the 1/2 inch deadeye is representing a 12 inch deadeye the scale is 1:24. If it's representing a 14 inch deadeye the scale would be 1:28. At 1:24 scale, 5' 8 and 3/4 inches or 69 inches would equal 140 feet. If 69 inches is representing 99 feet then that scale would be approximately 1:17 and a 12 inch deadeye would equal .70588 inches to scale. If representing a 14 inch deadeye the scales size would be .8235 inches. For the 1/2 inch deadeye to work at 1:17 scale, it would be a 9 inch deadeye to actual size. 1:17 isn't unheard of but 1:18 is more common. To nail down the scale everything needs to get measured, binnacle, anchors, life ring, single blocks, everything. The scale is really only important in figuring out the size of the ship's wheel.
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Keith, Glen, and Ron, thank you for the comments and thank you to all for the likes and for following along. Here are a couple of photos, disregard the clutter as I'm knee deep in it. Box to get the channels to eye level. Lacing the deadeye lanyards on the third hand as there's no room to do it on model. Starboard. Finishing up the second one on port side.
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Keith, love the first photo bedlam and all. You've made tons of of very nice progress since post #372. You hear anything from the other Keith?
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So sorry your rudder broke, Dave, that's such a drag. All the 100% cotton thread I've every seen has been fuzzy. There are cotton/polyester blends that are less fuzzy but for the time spent why not go polyester and be done with it. Poly doesn't rot like cotton but some folks say polyester thread stretches. I have a model I rigged years ago with poly and I don't see any sag. Some museums are now using polyester line on renovations.
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Welcome back, traveler. I hope you get settled in nicely.
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Dave, the rigging looks great but how in the heck did you break the rudder? There's no rigging back there, did you have LN in a headlock? It seems most kit supplied cotton line stinks. On your next project you might consider getting line from Chuck or possibly laying up your own.
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Th cleats came out nice. I need to order some Pewter Black from Bluejacket and give it a try. Thanks for reviewing the product, Lynn.
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Floyd, welcome to MSW. Glad to have you aboard.
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Okay, you got me, Glen. I'm busy tonight and tomorrow but I promise to post photos by Sunday morning no matter how undramatic.
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Lynn, thank you. Thank you, Phil Gary, thank you. Thank you, Mark Ian, thank you. A quick update.....I have all the mizzen channel deadeyes stropped and a starboard side mizzen channel shroud in place. Because there is no room to lace the deadeyes on ship, I have to lace the deadeyes off ship using a third hand and then install. It's a bit awkward to do it this way but I can't see another way of doing it. It's fiddly but it works. I had to get a box to sit the Tennessee on to work at eye level. I tried sitting on my little stool but but it was too hard on me ole backside. A lift would make it much easier but a box is a lot cheaper. I can't thank you enough to all of you for the likes and most kind comments. Thank you, Ian for stopping by and thank you to all for following my journey.
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What is the measurement of the deadeyes and the measurement from the bow to the transom?
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Good looking crew, Keith. You folks there in the UK kept your history alive, here in the US we scraped our history and turned into frying pans.
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Thanks, Roger. Well, my mind is totally blown. Here's this well executed pond yacht built at 1:12 scale which obviously took lots of planning to build. Even the name plaque is expertly made which is usually a weakness. It's got tufted seating and the wood used for the decking and deckhouses is beautiful stuff. (Any guesses as to what species of wood that is?) To build an eight foot model one would think that the materials alone would have cost a small fortune. So whoever built this grand pond yacht at great time and some expense then sticks the name Elmina on it (which evidently it holds no resemblance to) and then sails it in front of crowds of people to which any number of could have said "what were you thinking". This mystery bothers me. It's like a little piece of sand is lodged in the folds of my brain and if not solved soon I might make a pearl.
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No doubt rigging this beast is going to be a challenge but well worth the effort in the end. One is able to get away with so must at smaller scales but at this scale any deviation from realism is going to stick out like a sore thumb. Allan, at this scale what wood would you recommend for making blocks? " It appears my model has the name Elmina on it but actually is not a model of the Elmina" It maybe modeled after the Elmina from the deck up? I wish we had good deck photos and or drawings, would like to see the photo that came with the model. The hull maybe configured more for function (being a pond yacht) than the actual Elmina hull as the model was meant to operate in the water and to be seen from the waterline up? The transom doesn't seem correct but it could have been designed for the sole purpose of displaying the plaques? This is going to be a very interesting journey.
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Hello from Alberta Canada 🇨🇦
Keith Black replied to 4 Strong Winds's topic in New member Introductions
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The model is 8 feet and the the Elmina was 99 feet. The scale is 1:12, one inch = one foot. A modeled 16 inch block or deadeye will be 1.33 inches. I don't know if Chuck would/could make line for that scale?
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Our dear wives are rarely wrong, thank God.
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A couple of images of the Elmina. The eBay item would be well worth picking up. The second link supposedly shows the Elmina in the background but describes her as being 120 feet not 99 feet? https://www.ebay.com/itm/174961721806 http://progress-is-fine.blogspot.com/2018/06/yachts-ingomar-and-elmina.html
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Gorgeous work, beautiful recovery.
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Brig Le FAVORI 1806 by KORTES - 1:55
Keith Black replied to KORTES's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1801 - 1850
What a neat little piece, Kortes. Both functional and beautiful. -
Never has 'less is more' been more appropriate than when applied to this model, Gary. Simple yet elegant in both design and execution. The stain isn't heavy but stands out nicely against the white interior of the hull and the wood shouts out maintained wear. Gary, it's perfect as it sits. "There is some cleanup work yet to be done on the outer hull followed by a final coat of paint" I think is more for your head than the model. The only thing needed is a rippled blue surface of cattails and waterfowl.
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