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You may also find these contemporary drawings of her forecastle and poop deck of interest..to aid in your construction. If you don't already possess them. Rob
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I agree Ed...I have been able to locate several paintings of Glory of the Seas....but as you have pointed out..very few of Young America. And the only photographs of her that I have come across are the usual ones of her in New York (corrected)
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I recently refound this image I wanted to show you some time ago when you were framing your larger version. It depicts a mockup of a midframe of the clipper REDJACKET built by Deacon George Thomas of Rockland Maine. Pretty impressive and quite large...over 2 stories tall. Rob
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Fantastic work Ed. As you know, I am a *Glory of the Seas* fan and have discussed our similar interests in the vessels and makers of our examples... I had been searching for a representation of our vessels in art form and was not disappointed..when I came across in the collection of Dr Norm Adams a perfect example of our ships in an exciting open sea race depicted by famous nautical artist Carl G. Evers. The piece entitled; *CONQUERORS OF CAPE HORN* YA gaining on Glory en route to San Francisco. Enjoy
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Surely..I meant no disrespect to Crothers concerning his estimations of original color schemes of said portion...however it is true as you have duly noted that changes did occur..even photographic evidence suggests this. I only pointed out that any error could find its origins in many places. Since, not too many folks are still living who actually sailed on such vessels to gather first hand accounts from....we can defer to qualified experts such as Crothers and the like. I for one rely heavily upon Crothers for my many builds. Rob (Avid follower of your fantastic builds.)
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Yes there are some slight differences....the poop deck rise may indeed be an error, but who'e to say it wasn't Crothers, since he obviously got the fancy rail paint color wrong...well at least from any photo documentation I have ever seen of the actual ship and respectable paintings of her. One thing I think can be an explanation...like most commercial vessels..they did undergo changes and modifications during their careers..I know this to be oh so true with one of my favorite McKay vessels...Glory of the Seas. I have extensive documentation on her and it depends on the year as to what you might consider adding or detracting from her deck furniture to her rigging and masting. All in all..do to the inadequate collection of true accurate images and a good living example..a well executed likeness of any American clipper is almost as good as one can get(Unless you have the actual mechanics plans to work from) Did I mention you are doing a fantastic job?
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Ed.....your doing a fantastic job on this build of the YA. I just want to let you know you are a super encourager and motivator for the skilled model making minded individual. Only one other example that I have found can equal or at least be near to your superb vessel is this fine reproduction. I thought I'd post this pic so as to demonstrate the near exactness to your own model. Amazing....both..no..all three are amazing. Rob
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I hand carved a 1/96 scale Cutty Sark out of a 6x6 piece of redwood. I scaled up the hull from the smaller Revell model of the same. I then planked the carving. I made wood templates for the hull carving...similar to a shaped guage. It worked well and the redwood carved very easily. Rob
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Ed, will your book be covering the rigging and masting or just the hull construction? Rob(I'm all over that book)
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Just came across your build log...fantastic work and execution. I'll be following along. Great job. Rob
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Fantastic Ed. It was always a mystery to me how the actual ship builders aligned their ribs so accurately. Images look good but how it got that way is the marvel. Great job..sir. Rob
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Thanks for the update Ed........Great job! I've spend ample hours myself in historical study for my current builds and at a stop point as well. Again, thanks for this fine log. Rob
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One of my dreams have come true today. I was able to go to the pyre site of the Glory of the Seas.....and at an extreme low tide..did indeed find the remains of my favorite clipper ship. I then excavated several portions of the iron pins used to fashion the timbers together(No timber survived). These iron pins were roughly 1.5" and some over 3ft long. I procured several portions..one crusted nearly fully and the rounded form head was barely visible. Being nearly 100 years old....they are brittle and after preservation I will mount them along with my model of the vessel. 8 years ago there was more to be found...she is nearly completely vanished from view and from memory. I saved my piece of the *Glory* and can't be any more excited. I have an actual piece of the Glory of the Seas and it will rest proudly and preserved with the model of her namesake. Rob(How many people can say that?)
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I wish I had gotten a better image. I hand laid the individual planks...stained and then they required ample sanding to bring them to a smooth finish. Some accounts suggests that the Western Shore sported a single tree bowsprit/jib-boom unlike many clippers that had a bowsprit, cap and separate jib-boom. Others suggest a bit less typical with the bowsprit of square dimensions and a jib-boom of typical round configuration. I will continue my research, until I am confident of this. Rob
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I am so sorry about your mother......I pray she recovers fully...as well as your sweet wife. According to your most recent images of the Cutty and the chain you are fabricating...good job! One thing I am not clear on is that, are you going to model your version with the forward hatch covered with that stairwell cowling as well as that cowling just aft of the windless forward? These items are not of the original design and were added for cadet and public usage. Are you omitting them or adding them..not sure I read that anywhere? Rob- 4,152 replies
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Great tribute Ed. I too have been moved by Mr. Crothers writings and collections of clipper ship data. His collective research is in my view, priceless. And you have translated his work into a living representation. No better tribute. Rob
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Sometimes I don't know if I'm coming or going. I kinda feel like Ole Donald McKay myself with the anxious anxiety of a new build fogging my view...long before I have finished the ship I'm currently working on. After working on the clipper Donald McKay for a time...and finalizing a home move...I finally spent some quality time rigging and fitting out the Glory of the Seas foremast yards. To include lift rigging, jackstays, Flemish horses, stirrups and footropes. Before I affix them to the mast...I must return to finishing the port side foot ropes. I spent much of last night rigging them on the shrouds. I intend to fashion the Jacobs ladders as well during this stage. It appears I have created for myself a nightmare(If such can be considered to be so). I'm on the brink of finishing ....totally...the Barkentine Ferreira ...(aka Cutty Sark). few odds and ends. I'm a third way through the mast construction on the Clipper Donald McKay. I'm slinging along on the mainmast yards and backstays of the clipper Glory of the Seas. And... I'm laying the deck for the new construction on the clipper Western Shore. I forgot to take images...so I'll try that soon. Rob
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