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On 2/25/2018 at 12:59 AM, Hubac'sHistorian said:
Beautifully done, Michel!
What is your plan for the seats of ease at the head? It has always seemed to me that the roundhouses on the Tanneron model really belong in the 18th century, and not the latter 17th C. Has your research pointed you in any definitive direction? Would the arrangement of Frolich's L'Ambiteaux be more appropriate, for example?
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On 2/25/2018 at 12:59 AM, Hubac'sHistorian said:
Beautifully done, Michel!
What is your plan for the seats of ease at the head? It has always seemed to me that the roundhouses on the Tanneron model really belong in the 18th century, and not the latter 17th C. Has your research pointed you in any definitive direction? Would the arrangement of Frolich's L'Ambiteaux be more appropriate, for example?
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Some work on the rear deck. Two cannons of 4 that remain to be rigged, the officer's rooms, the chicken coops. Finishing of the cages with the fittings of the trap doors and the mooring rings.
In anticipation the sculptures of the bow and the railings of the foreheads of the fellows and dunette.
See you soon
Michel- GrandpaPhil, druxey, rtwpsom2 and 18 others
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On 25/02/2018 at 12:59 AM, Hubac'sHistorian said:
Beautifully done, Michel!
What is your plan for the seats of ease at the head? It has always seemed to me that the roundhouses on the Tanneron model really belong in the 18th century, and not the latter 17th C. Has your research pointed you in any definitive direction? Would the arrangement of Frolich's L'Ambiteaux be more appropriate, for example?
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Hello and thank you for the compliment
Indeed, the stools in a rotunda are not 17th century and rather English.
The reclining seats of the Royal Sun will be double as on the Ambitieux which is of the same time and the same site of Brest. This is part of the ongoing construction stage of the foal grating floor. But I have at the same time to finish the decorations of the smooth and squat (Heads of lion and paws, sea horse on the top of the herpes and, hunk, the naiades against the horse of bow and behind the herpes.
See you soon
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- tadheus, paulsutcliffe, archjofo and 19 others
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Thank you all
The sculpture work is done on a single block of boxwood.
The tools are; Mini drill with flat sanding disc and round to rough, chisels of different widths, very small gouges and mainly a knife with round blade.- John Allen, CédricL, FrankWouts and 2 others
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- EJ_L, John Allen, harvey1847 and 18 others
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good morning Marc
Actually you can find this excerpt in Cedric's document
I had this document for a very long time and I had not exploited it, error on my part, it is a gold mine.- Hubac's Historian, EJ_L and mtaylor
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In front of these important works, the means of Brest were revealed
insufficient; and as early as October 20, the minister writes to. the steward
Le Havre: "Siem Caffieri (Philippe), but a secteur,
it is necessary in Brest, do not miss to order it from
go there anyway, anyway, the work he may have
begun at Le Havre would not be completed. But. at the beginning of November,
he writes to her that having sent from Paris a master sculptor
in Brest, it is useless to send Philippe Caffieri; and, I 10 of
same month, he informs Desclouzeaux, steward in Brest, in these
words: "The _Roy having charged the named Regnault, master sculptor
to serve in this capacity at the port of Brest and drive the
s ~ ulpt ~ r ~ Sun-Royal ,. His Majesty's intention is that you
l etabhss1ez. in the workshop of the arsenal intended for this work and
that you give me the means to do this work with all due diligence
possible and you have to pay 1,000 pounds
pa: month. On the same day, he gives Clairambault the directiYes
~ mv ~~ tts for the wax model expedition: "The Roy having
char, e names him Regnault, master sculptor as s. Mr. sent to
Brest, to bring to this port the relief model of the sculpture of the
Sun-Royal who is 1 to 1 year old, 1. is required that you take
the mother of the child and to have him accommodated in such a way that he
do not miss the path. So you have to examine
by which way it will be able to send it without being able to be gastcr, either
by the messenger _ taking a horse to carry it, if that is possible,
? ~ 1 • P ~ .: the rouhers of Orleans and make it go down by} a rivièrP
J squ a Nantes or in such a way that you consider suitable in
~ s.ervant ~ e take the fastest route of those who would be
. Moreover, it is necessary that this. arrivef model
at least, Brest. that you agree with those who
will take care of this transport of what will be paid to them q ~ ue
you give them in advance what you will learn about
you let me know what should be paved to them
returning to J a Brest in there
good condition so that I can order the Sieur des ~
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nails (43). Four days later, on November 22, he sent
Berain: "They write to me from Brest. would need some
companions sculptors to finish the works of sculpture that there
has to do to the ships of the King in port. I beg you to seek
up to a dozen and have them go away · sooner than
will. You can assure them that they will not work
; but in case you can not solve them without
that they know what they will have to earn, you will have to agree
with them at best. market that it is possible and that you make me
find out what you promised them (44). "- CédricL, EJ_L, Hubac's Historian and 1 other
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The original design of the SR 1669 remains a mystery. No trace of Pierre Puget in Brest but against Toulon for the Royal Louis of the same time. Some speak of Caffieri, others of Charles Le Brun.
The only sure indications are the provisions of the windows of the stern, according to the measurements of the rooms made by Intendant Desclouzeaux during the refit of 1688. It is obvious that Berain took advantage of a quasi reconstruction of this stern, because, as said Desclouzeaux "all the highs are completely rotten". This is confirmed in the refit quote of Louis Hubac.
In Brest, Paris, Toulon, Rochefort, apart from that, no trace to my knowledge.
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- Chapman, John Allen, dvm27 and 22 others
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Do not think I criticize your work that I admire in its constitution.
When the second Royal Sun of 1693, it would seem that the sculptures of the one of 1669 were deposited during its refit in 1688, because damaged. They would then have been repaired to serve for the decoration of the ex-Foudroyant.
For the Tanneron, this was what a French modékiste, Commander Vichot, had told him in his time as administrator of the Musée de la Marine in Paris.
Good suite- EJ_L, Hubac's Historian and mtaylor
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Outstanding work
But I think it is a shame to have taken as a reference the Heller Royal Sun, itself inspired by the Tanneron model, with many errors and anomalies compared to the reality of the true Royal Sun. The work would not have been more difficult and you would have obtained a very correct model. -
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The base is a single piece of boxwood that has been trimmed with a scroll saw, then finishing the smooth with lime .; The head of the healds was curved with hot air on a template. Then, each branch was hollowed out with a 1 mm diamond cutter, finishing of the corners with the scalpel and smoothing of the milling with sharp chisels. The hollows of the upper and lower branches were lined with pear band and the hollows of the central beam trimmed with stripes of fleurons carved with the bistoury and chisel then the needle files.
it remains to work the decors of the vertical pillars and stick them with the flowers of lilies and a small macaroon on the center of the volutes of head.
Of course I will also have to sculpt the head of a horse that will cover the head of the heddles.
Thank you for your opinions and see you soon
Michel
PS: I am very affected by what happened in Las Vegas.- marktiedens, EJ_L, druxey and 4 others
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Thank you, but Frölich followed the plan of J. Boudriot. In fact, it is a mistake because the timber flows of the time did not allow this cutting.It should have done 3 or 4 pieces. I made the bet to make it in one piece for convenience reasons in the shapes because the high ear plate on the wall and is therefore arched in both directions. On the other hand if I slip it is damn ... but repairable without it shows.
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SOLEIL ROYAL 1669 by michel saunier
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