robert952

Congrats on entering the new phase in you life. I retired 2-years ago. Best decision I have ever made. I don't know how I had time to work. Lots of sound advise here in the forum (not just this thread). Some of it I wish I had before I started. But, as jaager points out, enthusiasm cycles. I think I am on my 3rd or 4th cycle. I guess I am hooked forever. I keep in mind the slogan you see around here: "...tain't a hobby if you gotta hurry." (Sounds like you got that aspect covered.) Good luck on your endeavors.

I second BobG's comment. A lot of great questions from the audience. @tlevine A shout out to Toni for keeping an eye on the questions that showed up in the chat window. Great job answering those questions. Thanks for your work there.

Thanks for the additional information. I found the B&N comment at Antic Hay Rare Books site. I should have cross checked it. I did not find the book at B&N site. Like you, until I started writing this review, I assumed the the name on the cover was the author. This goes to show the importance of research on any subject. I decided to edit out the designer info. The article was pretty long so I looked for a few things to remove. The only thing that exceeds my verbosity is my habit of using a lot of words.

Well, I was actually thinking about how used lights on the panel. I do have a diesel tug that doesn't have an engine. I may have to create one.

Thanks for the details in the log. Not that I plan on building this, but the work does spark ideas for future projects.

Reading through various threads on MSW, I see where people refer to the book The Lore of Ships. I thought it might be appropriate to provide information about the book. I use the book a bit and spend a lot of time just looking at the pages in hopes of learning something. (Sometimes I do learn or understand better.) The book does provide a lot of information that’s general in nature but gets specific within the images on the pages. I know that sounds contradictory. However, the book covers a wide range of subjects (therefore, a general reference) using illustrations with a lot of details. This review covers the 1972 edition published by Crescent Books (New York). The original publication date was 1963 by Tre Tryckare (Stockholm Sweden), a publishing company. Minor issue, but there is no author/person I can find by that name. The book is a collaboration of many people using multiple sources. (As a side bar: The book was edited by Sam Svensson and republished in 1998 by Barnes and Noble. Svensson wrote the book’s Introduction section and the commentary to the Spars and Rigging section.) All editions are hard cover. The 1972 edition is 11 X 12 inches (and I imagine the others the same size) with 279 pages. The book contains over 1500 illustrations and (by my estimate) over 2500 index entries. You can find copies on the used book sites such as Thrift Books and Good Reads as well as Amazon. Prices vary based on store and condition of the book. The price range I found runs from $8 to $40 US. The 11 sections of the book cover: Introduction; Hull; Spars and Riggings; The Sail; Propulsion; Fishing; Yachting; Gunnery; Navigation; Ship-Handling and Index. Each section starts with an introduction on the subject. Then, as listed on the contents page, more detailed illustrations follow within each section. Each section has drawings and illustrations, no photos. The crisp, clean, drawings have well identified callouts and labels. Their presentation gives an authoritative look and feel to the individual illustrations. While you will find some details in the identifying text, the book does not have a tremendous amount of written information. Additionally, while the list of sources contains a lot of named material, the book does not tie specific information to the details in the drawings. For example: National Geographic shows as a reference, but no specific edition or articles are cited. I’d suggest additional cross reference material be used depending on your research purpose. If the item you research has some connection to ships and things nautical, you will likely find it here. Wooden sailing ships to steel hulled ships; sails to steam engines; compass roses to sextants; cannon balls to rockets; they are all here. Even objects like signal flags, clothing, navigation and food objects show up in the book. This book does not provide details on any specific ship or boat. In a few instances, the name or type of a ship and maybe an era are identified. However, this book allows you look at minute details of general use and interest. You can glean a lot of information from studying the illustrations. I use this book as my ‘go to’ to look for an object. After finding the object or item, you can easily see similar, related items. For example, you look up ‘Tackles and blocks.’ On the same page (p. 123) you can see the relative increase in power from a single whip to a three by four tackle. So, again, general information on various blocks but, in this case, no specifics on when or where a block might be used. That vast number of illustrations has its drawbacks. I find that as I look for some specific item, I get drawn down a rabbit’s warren. I can easily spend time just turning pages and looking at other objects and illustrations. However, the excursion provides an enjoyable journey and may show you some things you did not know. I think this book serves as a good general resource and starting point for researching details on what an object looks like. It is a matter of a picture being worth 1000 words. You will probably find that looking for a term or object in the Index faster than trying to find something looking through the Contents. Here’s some samples of the drawings and illustrations; Contents. Just a portion to show details. As you can see, the contents lists the subjects, but not in the more traditional method of a table of contents. Hence, the index may help you find an item faster. Typical sail and rigging drawing. You can see the detail listing of the callouts. View of boilers. Shows that the book goes beyond just ships with sails. As before, detailed callout list for the page. Blocks and tackles. Since I mentioned this page specifically (p123) it seems worth showing. The ‘curvy’ view at the top is due to my not wanting to lay the page too flat for photography. The layout is a straight, horizontal line of drawings. I hope you found this review useful. Please feel free to comment and share your views.

Nice build. I became intrigued by the lobster trap. The photos do an excellent job of showing details. Thanks.

Here's another older thread that can still serve its purpose. Even though the build didn't get completed (sorry to read that part), I still picked up some tips on this model. I plan on starting this model, hopefully, in January 2022. I realize the thread is 'closed' for all intents. However, thanks to all who added to the thread.

I know this has been finished for several years and the thread is complete. However, next on my list (probably get started on it in January) is this Midwest Model. I want to say this was very informative and helpful. I have a better sense of what to expect and traps to avoid. I do have a couple of questions that I will post around the time I get started...likely separate threads or as part of the build log. As one of my goals while working on this model covers a more disciplined approach to my actions and activities. I think keeping a build log will help. I guess we can see that even an 'old thread' can be useful.

I'll give it a few days to see. I'll get back to you.

I have been (ever so slowly) going through my library to catalog my book collection, mainly to declutter for next house reno work which requires me to move out book shelves at least on a temporary basis. So, the old kill two birds with one stone. I found 2 copies of this book (more of a magazine format, paperback) - 18 pages with text inside both covers. I will give one away. The Golden Hinde covers the rebuilding of the replica ship which now resides at The Golden Hinde Museum in London. The book looks like a 'commemorative' item to cover the July 1973 launch of the hull. This issue (copyright 1973) shows work up through the launch of the hull and before the stepping of the masts. The text covers techniques used for building the ship, and facts from about the period, and about Sir Francis Drake. The photos are all in color. The background images for each page are period pieces and identified as to what they show (but not too much detail to be seen). If you want to see steps on the building of a replica, this would be a great source book. Cover and sample page below. Slight bends on corners but otherwise excellent condition. I got this book as part of an 'estate sale' on e-bay years ago. The person had an obsession with the Golden Hind (apparently) as there were 3-4 books and a set of plans for a model included in the collection and other items on galleons. The edition I am keeping (different covers, a few different images). The text is identical except the photo captions. This edition of the book shows for sale at Thriftbooks for <12.00 (Link) and eBay for about $17. As topic says: Free. I ask you to pay postage and in this case a bit of 'handling' charge. I'll need to buy an oversized protective envelope so add a bit for that. I estimate shipping and handling to be in the $2-4 range using lowest postal rate. Personal check is acceptable, pay after receipt of book. After reading Fahrenheit 451, by Ray Bradbury in junior high (er...middle) school, I have had problems just throwing books away. I'd rather give it away than throw it away. So, just pay S/H charges and it's yours. PM me if you are interested. First come, first served based on date of PM.

Sandra - I googled 'renard de navigation' and got to this French language site; Link to meridienne.org Interesting site with details on use of the tool. Thanks for sharing.

To be perfectly clear...I sent the book to the person who replied. It is no longer available.

Got PM. Seems home has been found.

Just like a kitten: Free to good home. Except, you won't have to feed it. It's an extra copy I found on my book shelf. I figure someone might want it for their research library. Pay for shipping in US, it's yours. I estimate that US Postal will be around $10 - 12 US. If you want to pay for other method, let me know, I'll look into costs. I will tie costs down based on zip codes and other factors. (Shipping from Raleigh NC.) I will accept personal check. Details: Title: Fighting Techniques of Naval Warfare 1190 BC ~ Present. (Subtitle: Strategy, Weapons, Commanders and Ships ) Fiveauthors See the photo below of back dust cover flap for their bona fides. 'Present' ends a bit beyond the Battle of Midway and a reference to '1954 USS Nautilus' submarine. Lots of drawings, cutaways, and prints. All the battles analyzed include a battle map. I found it an interesting and informative read. This is the Metro Books version (2013 copyright) which is an exact reprint of the original Amber Books, Ltd. version (2009). Hardback. 256 pp includes the index. Five chapters: 1. The age of the galley; 2. The age of the cannon; 3. The age of sail; 4. The nineteenth century; 5. The modern era. Excellent condition. The dust cover has a wrinkle in the front flap. This link to this Amazon.com listing has the inside dust cover copy/description. https://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Techniques-Naval-Warfare-Commanders/dp/B005X4HJXY The authors:

Greetings, I just joined this past weekend as result of the last printing of Ships In Scale. A big thank you for the copy of the NRJ that was sent to SIS subscribers. I read the accompanying letter and plans of the Journal. I am glad to see the commitment to beginner modelers. I may be more intermediate...I don't know the 'qualifications' that define these categories. However, I am sure I will benefit from associating with this group. By profession, I am a technical trainer for an global manufacturer. But I can see the light at the end of my career tunnel is not an oncoming train. I plan on retiring (next year) after what will be 47 years in the work force (and for the same company). As preparation for retirement, I decided one of my hobbies will include building models (along with gardening and 3D CGI art). So, I have been buying models, building (IMHO) a decent library around things nautical, and learning some new skills. (I have a few cars, a couple of military models and such in the collection, but my direction will be towards wooden ship models.) As for my model ship history? As a young child, my dad and I built various models (car, planes and ships). My favorite was Revell's USS Missouri - mainly because of the impressive detail (for a 10-year-old) in that model. I moved the completed model with the family and the model survived until my brother took one of my jet plane models and performed a kamikaze attack. Another copy of that model is in my closet to be built again because, in part, those memories. Also, because I toured the ship now berthed at Pearl Harbor. (She is an impressive lady.) I read with interest Chris' cautionary tale to beginners. Like he points out, 'real life' (RL) got in the way of my hobbies. As Chris' thread warns, I bit off more than I could chew (attempting a plank on frame of the Golden Hind). I admitted to my blunder and re-evaluated my direction. I realized I needed to learn some new skills. To that end, I have managed to complete a 'weekend kit' from Midwest (Dinghy), attended a workshop at the NC Maritime Museum (Beaufort, NC) and built a half hull (lift method - NC Shad Boat - finished and hanging on the wall). I may rephotograph those and post them to the gallery in a few weeks. RL still curtailed my hobby though and I do have a couple other 'unfinished' models in the closet. But I have a plan and have been working towards getting into building ship models. I look forward to associating more with the forums (and other hobbies) as retirement approaches. And in case you didn't gather from this thread, I can be quite verbose. But I plan to be active, so you may have to learn to get used to long posts from me.