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Roel, That certainly must be the first time anyone referred to the Cape as "awesome!" You may be spoiling things here because the Cape is supposed to be the least awesome of the US Navy's ships.
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I have been plugging away at the blueprints. I have photographed all the drawings I think are necessary for the model - but I will probably discover some others that I need to copy. The microfilm images are usually 2-5 separate photos of the original paper plans. These need to be combined to make an image of the entire original sheet. I use Photoshop to put the pieces together into a single drawing file. So far I have pieced together 84 full blueprint sheets. There are a dozen or two more to do. Here are the hull lines. I also have the Table of Offsets that I can use to create the frame/station lines in my CAD program. These drawings will be sufficient for making the hull. It was a wooden ship, and I plan to build a wooden plank on bulkhead model. The original ship was double planked over frames. Minesweepers needed very strong hulls to withstand the shock of mines exploding close by. The inner planking was diagonal, running from the main deck level down at 45 degrees to the keel. The outer planking was the typical horizontal "strakes." The frames were on 15" (38 cm) spacing. This produced a very strong hull. I considered double planking with the inner layer diagonal, but on second thought this seems like a lot of unnecessary work. It is hard enough to get planks to follow the long horizontal curves of the hull. Getting diagonal planks to fit to the much greater vertical curvature and somehow fit into the rabbet at the bottom of the bulkhead/frames would be just asking for trouble! I am still looking for the blueprints for some of the deck gear and winches. Minesweepers carried large spools of cables of several types, and had correspondingly large winches and motors to power them. The deck was crowded with sweep gear. Of course the reason I want to build this model is that the Cape was my first ship when I entered the Navy, so it has special interest for me, even if no one else on the planet cares at all. Besides, it really was special in a way I hope to tell. The Captain of the USS Cape was Officer-in-Charge LT Fred Buck. He was a newly promoted Lieutenant who signed on for another hitch specifically to get the command. The XO was LTJG Dave Devine, a suntanned surfer from SOCAL. He looked like a Greek god and the girls called him Devine Dave. He was also First Division (deck division) Officer. And me, Ensign Fuzz, straight out of Naval Officer Candidate School (NAVOCS) in Newport, Rhode Island. I asked my detailer in Washington for assignment to any large ship that was home ported in Yokosuka, Japan. I wanted to see the world and that seemed like a good place to start. And there I was on the Cape, bolted to the pier in Long Beach. When I reported aboard the Cape on 25 April 1969 the ship was in Hal Larson’s Boat Yard and Bicycle Repair Shop in San Pedro, California. Just finding it was an adventure! I say it was “bolted” to the pier because the normal term for a ship that never gets under way is “welded to the pier.” But the Cape was a wooden minesweeper, so “bolted” seemed like a better choice. We did occasionally get under way for training exercises – usually a trip around Catalina Island while the crew did some fishing. But the ship was pretty much useless so the Navy left us at the pier most of the six months I was aboard. I was the officially appointed Engineering Officer, Supply Officer, Damage Control Officer, NBC Defense Officer, Health Officer, Athletics Officer, Special Services Officer, Transportation Officer, Fire Prevention Officer, MDCS Officer, Allotment Accounting Officer, Alternate RPS Custodian and Witnessing Officer, Tax Free Cigarette Custodian, Tax Free Cigarette Audit Board, Magnetic Signature Control Officer, Gas Free Engineer, Cape Recreation Council, COMTAC Publications Control Officer, COMTAC Publications Library Inspection Board, Narcotics & Alcohol Board, Educational Services Officer, Officer of the Deck, Command Duty Officer and Wardroom Treasurer. Twenty four official duties! I was George, the junior officer in the Wardroom, so all the bureaucratic BS was dumped on me. Unfortunately, I knew nothing about any of these duties, except perhaps the engineering part. My father was a mechanic and I grew up in a garage. So working on engines was pretty much second nature to me. My orders out of NAVOCS were to six weeks of Minesweeping Officers Course, one week of RPS Custodian School, one week Cryptographic Operators Course, and then to Supply Officer's School. But those orders were cancelled and I was ordered to report directly to the Cape with no further training. As it happens it didn't matter. We didn't do much minesweeping, the ship didn't have any cryptographic equipment or restricted pubs, and my supply petty officer seemed to know what he was doing.
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Brian, The Cape was eventually converted into a private yacht. I think it is still sailing in the Puget Sound area.
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Dr PR replied to acaron41120's topic in Discussion for a Ship's Deck Furniture, Guns, boats and other Fittings
Joachim, I am not familiar with the Royal Navy cutters so I can't answer your question directly. Wolfram zu Mondfeld's Historic Ship Models (page 158) has a short section on ship's bells. The belfry was often a pretty elaborate thing that added to the decorations on larger ships. But it was more modest on the smaller vessels. Mondfeld says the English were probably the first to use bells, and cites a reference for the second rate Rainbow of 1650. He says merchant ships carried a single bell near the stern until the early 1700s when it was moved to the forecastle. Warships had the bell somewhere on the forecastle. -
Valeriy, It will be a display model. I will try to build it to your standards!
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Dr PR replied to acaron41120's topic in Discussion for a Ship's Deck Furniture, Guns, boats and other Fittings
Allen, I researched the ship's bell position a while back. It varied from ship to ship, but up until a couple of centuries ago it was almost always somewhere near the stern. I have seen several examples where it was on the after mast. Sometimes it was in a belfry on deck, either before or after the mast. The belfry often was part of the bitts or pin rail at the base of the mast, or in the railing at the forward edge of the quarterdeck. Beginning in the 1700s or early 1800s they started moving the bell to the bow. Again, it could be mounted to the fore mast, on bitts or in a belfry. Or it was in the railing on the aft side of the foc's'le. I found that the bell is often omitted from drawings of deck fittings. Wherever you mount the bell be careful that it will not foul any of the rigging. This can be a problem with mast mounted bells. -
Jim, The Cape was the flagship of MINERON 11 (I seem to have had a flagship destiny in the Navy). We didn't get underway much and the crew had a lot of time on their hands. They kept everything clean, painted and polished, very "ship shape."
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Tom, My job was to keep the nukes from going BANG! when we didn't want them to. I was primarily Nuclear Safety Officer. I conducted training and oversaw all handling exercises to be sure the rules were followed exactly. The 1960s were before we had store and forget missiles and warheads. They had to be inspected and tested periodically and that required a lot of handling. So I was kept busy.
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Keith, McNamara's 100,000 was a test group to see if those who failed the Navy's entrance exam could still perform useful duties. They were draftees - the Navy took a few and the rest became grenade catchers. We had two men on board from this group. Both were bosun's mates. One was a total basket case - couldn't tie his shoe laces without help. But he was a working machine - like a robot. Put him to work chipping paint and he wouldn't stop until the whole ship was stripped. You had to tell him to stop for lunch or he would work right through. The other fellow was a logger from the Pacific Northwest. He had been a log truck driver before he was drafted. He was pretty smart - I figure he deliberately failed the induction tests to avoid the draft, but McNamara took him anyway! He was our helmsman.
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Tom, I was Nuclear/Special Weapons Officer on the OK City. Follow these links if you want more details: https://www.okieboat.com/Life In A Tin Box.html https://www.okieboat.com/index.html
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Tom, I was in A6904 Company - graduated from OCS in April 1969. Were you on a new MSC (Coastal Minesweeper) or an older one (MSCO). Here is a photo of the Cape outboard the USS Ruff MSCO-54 to give you an idea of the size difference. That's an even larger MSO ocean-going minesweeper behind the Cape and Ruff. When I took this photo I had no premonition of what fate had in store for me. The Ruff was my second ship! After the Cape was decommissioned the Mine Squadron didn’t know what to do with me while BUPERS decided where to assign me next. They appointed me as Officer-in-Charge of the old Coastal Minesweeper USS Ruff MSC(O)-54. My own command with just 6 months active duty! Wow! No more Ensign Fuzz. Now I was Captain Fuzz! The Ruff was the same type vessel John Wayne purchased and converted to his yacht Wild Goose. Of course, there was a catch. When I reported aboard, at a private boat yard in Los Angeles, there was a huge hole in the main deck over the engine room. The funnel had been removed, followed by the Pullman diesel engines and just about anything else suitable for salvaging. You see, I was Officer-in-Charge for Decommissioning. I was the only crew assigned to the ship. I found the Master Chief from the Long Beach Shipyard who was in charge of the crew scrapping the Ruff and handed him my orders. He was one of those guys who had been in so long that he left a trail of salt wherever he went. He looked surprised – I think no one bothered to tell him I was coming. Before he had a chance to say anything I told him I knew nothing about decommissioning ships, and he knew I knew nothing. So I said I would stay out of his way and let him do his job. If he needed me to sign anything he could find me on top of the pilot house catching rays. So from 8-5 for a couple of weeks my duty station was OOTW (out of the way). After a while I received orders to my next billet, the USS Oklahoma City CLG-5, flagship of the US Seventh Fleet home ported in Yokosuka, Japan! I reported aboard on 19 December 1969. The Okie Boat was home for about 2 1/2 years. Welcome to the real navy!
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Keith, Exactly! Thanks for the Churchill quote. I hadn't heard that before.
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Howard Chapelle once said we shouldn’t bother building yet another model of a famous ship that has already been modeled many times. Instead we should build a model of a vessel that hasn’t been modeled before. I feel safe in betting that this will be the first ever model of the USS Cape MSI-2, and probably the last! To paraphrase Joseph Heller (Catch 22); Among ships lacking distinction, the USS Cape stood out as the ship lacking more distinction than all the rest. I feel confident that this is the least famous ship in the entire history of the US Navy. So I dedicate this build to Howard Chapelle. The Cape was the second (and last) of the experimental Cove class inshore minesweepers in the US Navy. It was supposed to be a harbor and river minesweeper, but helicopters did a much better, faster and safer job. Several more vessels of this type were built for oceanographic work, but the Navy decided that it didn’t need any. Not any more, but not any at all! These were certainly the most worthless ships in the Navy. After a few frustrating years they were decommissioned. I had the distinction of being in the last active duty crew when the Navy finally decided to shitcan MSI-2 on 1 October 1969. Smallest ship in the navy Normally any vessel shorter than 150 feet is called a “boat.” But we had a letter from the Secretary of the Navy authorizing us to call the vessel the United States Ship (USS) Cape. The ship had a length of 112 feet (34 M), a beam of 23 feet (7 M) and a draft of 10 feet (3 M). Top speed was listed as 12 knots, but on a calm sea with a tail wind we could make 13 knots. Our main armament was one .50 caliber machine gun. We had the traditional minesweeping paravanes and cable cutting sweep gear, plus a mechanical noise maker for acoustic mines, and a long "magtail" to generate signals to trigger magnetic mines. The crew was 3 officers and 18 enlisted. We had a LT Officer-in-Charge, a LTJG Executive Officer, and me, a brand new Ensign fresh out of Naval Officer Candidate's School in Newport, Rhode Island. A 1st Class Bosun's Mate was the senior enlisted. I had a 1st Class Engineman and a 2nd Class Electrician's Mate to run Engineering, and a 3rd Class Petty Officer to run the Supply Department. Some of the crew were from McNamara's 100,000 – men who failed to pass the Navy entrance exams but were taken anyway because the Navy was desperate. The USS Cove MSI-1 and USS Cape MSI-2 were assigned to the US Pacific Fleet as part of the Pacific Mine Force in Long Beach, California. They were berthed at the head of Pier 9 where the water was too shallow for the larger MSO (ocean going) minesweepers farther out on the pier. They were part of Mine Flotilla 3 and the Cape was the flagship of Mine Squadron 11. This will be a SLOW build. I am still finishing my topsail schooner and I am in the process of gathering information about the MSIs. Fortunately, I have the complete blueprint set from the National Archives on microfilm, and I have recently found a way to digitize the images at home. so I have a very detailed set of "as constructed" plans. I also have a couple dozen photos I took while aboard. Blueprints are a mixed blessing. There are 180 "frames" in the blueprint set, with as many as 278 individual sheets in each frame. But of the several hundred drawings only a few are really relevant for ship modelling. The rest are internal plumbing and wiring diagrams, list of ship's furniture, lists of the little brass plates fastened above each door, and things like the calculations for the strength of the mast and resistance of the hull to hogging (it was a wooden ship). But the blueprints also include the tiny details that are impossible to determine from grainy pictures and sketches. Here is an example - the dimensioned drawing showing the mounting of the ship's peloruses and searchlights. There are dozens of similar "foundation" drawings, leaving little to guesswork. I plan to build the model mainly with wood. But I love working with brass so there will be some of that. And I think I can use 3D printing for complex things like fire strainers, anchors and anchor chains. To be continued ...
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Adding planks and details to hulls is a pleasurable thing, and if you make a mistake you can just peel off the bad part and add a new one. But drilling holes always puts me on edge. It's not just that you can't undo a hole after it is added. As an old Navy man I just don't like the idea of holes in the hull! I do question the sanity of using the Admiral's pots and pans for your hobbies. My wife's father was from Yorkshire, and she had a lovely Yorkshire accent. But it was always clear that I could do whatever I wanted with my hobbies but her pots and pans (and other kitchen tools) were OFF LIMITS!!!!
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Look at contemporary pictures and paintings of the Prince to see if it had gun port covers all around. Gun port lids/covers would normally be the same thickness as the planking on the outside surface, and would fit inside the opening (flush with the side of the ship). Inside the opening would be trim pieces that the lid closed against. Sorry I don't recall the nautical name fpr the trim pieces. The inside of the port cover would have another layer of wood that fit inside the trim pieces. Some vessels had two part lids - one half swung down and the other swung up. Sometimes one or both parts were not hinged. The pieces latched inside the port opening and were removed when the guns were used. These port lids may or may not have an opening to allow the cannon to protrude. If you add port lids be sure they swing up high enough that they do not interfere with the cannon barrels. This goes also for the trim inside the port opening that the lid closes against.
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Some books say the fall (at B2-2) is tied off below the block B2-1 to the line between the block and the hook. This is a running backstay. When the ship tacks the windward side backstay is hooked to the ringbolts shown in the drawing and tightened to take the strain on the mast. The leeward side backstay is loosened and unhooked to allow the boom to swing outboard. Both the block B2-1 and the runner tackle fall have hooks. This allows the tackle to be moved quickly. Nothing is tied permanently to the ring bolts.
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Shawn. Don't sweat the missing eye bolts. You can find several gauges of brass wire at a local hardware store and it is easy to make more pieces when you need them. If you want to get fancy you can solder the rings to close the gap (if you have a soldering iron and soldering experience). And if you really want to go all out you can blacken the brass with Birchwood Casey Brass Black. I posted about my method here: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19900-brass-black/?do=findComment&comment=991402 You will find it handy to have the brass wire around to make a number of fiddly bits not supplied in the kit.
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Steve, I have used Duco cement for almost everything in wooden ship builds. It is nitrocellulose in acetone - brings back memories of childhood model building. It works to hold the eyebolts in place in the deck, and I have never had one pull out on models 60+ years old. However, just about any glue/cement should work. You shouldn't put enough stress on any of the rigging to pull an eyebolt out. If you do, and the eyebolt doesn't pull out, the mast/spar will be bent. Just go easy and use the minimum tightness to keep the lines taut. You are working on a model of a beautiful ship, and doing a nice job! I see you are following Chapelle, and his books are excellent references for this schooner. Karl Heintz Marquardt's The Global Schooner, Naval Institute Press, Annapolis, Maryland, USA, 2003, is far and away the best reference I have found for masting, sails and rigging of schooners. It is the "Lees" for schooners. All other references describe large square-rigged vessels, and much of this does not apply to schooners!
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gaffrig, Are you referring to gun port covers/lids? The plans clearly show gun ports (the openings the guns shoot through). I have seen four basic types of gun port covers. 1. A hinged "door" that swings up to open the port. 2. A split port cover, with the lower half that is hinged and swings down. The upper half may be hinged to swing up, but it seems just as common for the upper half to be latched in place when closed and just removed to open the port. In some cases both halves are removable. 3. Two part doors hinged on the sides to swing open to either side of the opening. I don't think this was common on American vessels. 4. No port covers at all. For the Lynx you should probably not use hinged gun port lids - at least not the single piece that swings up. Because the top of the ports is the bottom of the cap rail there is no place to mount lids that swing up (I made this mistake in my Albatros Baltimore clipper build). I think the two part port lids are more appropriate, possibly with the bottom part hinged down. It was common for the lids to have an opening that the cannon barrel protruded through - with a plug in the end of the barrel to keep water out. Chapelle's drawings of the Lynx (Mosquidobit) show the sides of the gun ports vertical, and not perpendicular to the sheer (Howard Chapelle, The Baltimore Clipper, Edward W. Sweetman Company, New York, 1968, pages 84-85). This is THE reference book for Baltimore cloppers! However, it doesn't say much about sails and rigging other than a few simple sail plans. Keep in mind that the British captured the Lynx and renamed it the Mosquidobit, so most of the plans and drawings are under the latter name. Karl Heintz Marquardt, The Global Schooner, Naval Institute Press, Annapolis, Maryland, USA, 2003, is the best reference I have found for masting, sails and rigging schooners that I have found. Most books talk about large square-rigged vessels and ignore schooner completely. Marquardt is the "Lees" for schooners and is very detailed. I just discovered your build and I will be following. I love these schooners!
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Congratulations John! Beautiful model!
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