Bill97
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Ian, just curious here, in the diagram you sent me showing the eyebolts around the mizzenmast you show numbers 78, 93, and 107 that also apply to the belaying pins on Daniel’s etched ring that is there. Do I use either the eyebolts you recommend or the belaying pins in the ring for those lines?
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Thanks Kevin for your compliments. I was a tradesman as well in my younger years and often used the old eyeball to line things up. In retrospect I wish I could go back and replace the plastic shrouds on both my Cutty Sark and USS Constitution.
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Ian I was just looking at Longridge’s book and see that the stays go over the shrouds. So I will add them before the stays just not connect them to the deadeyes. I see what you mean about not being able to make them off the ship and slide on the mast top. Would have to be lose like the top of the stays. So I will add the eyes and blocks to the tops and put them on. Great idea to rig to the eyebolts at the base of the masts before proceeding. And yes I fully intend to put my serv-o-matic to work on my shroud lines. As far as the eyebolts around the base of the mizzenmast, I was hoping you did not see that. For some dumb reason I drilled and placed 4 but put them at front, back, side and side. Trying to decide if I should clip them off, repair the damage to the deck, and redrill them.
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Ok gentlemen the mizzenmast is installed. It to required a little filing down the lower decks to improve the alignment. All three lower masts are now installed with rigging blocks attached as directed. Viewing the deck looking toward the stern all 3 masts appear in perfect alignment. Mainmast and mizzenmast are hidden behind the foremast! So where do I go from here? Is it better to do the lower stays now, then the lower shrouds, and then the back stays once complete mast is in?
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Kevin I did not look back at my CS blog to see what pictures I attached but here are a few of my deck using the he Vallejo Old and New Wood kit.
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Not a problem Kevin and Ian. I don’t consider you hijacking my blog. I learn from all the conversations.
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Kevin I will look forward to watching your 3D printing experiment. Glad I could provide you a useful tip 😊. I am aware about alcohol removing acrylic paint since I to have unfortunately had to use it time and again over the years! I really like using the Vallejo Old and New Wood set. I have used it at different times for both effects. I am more pleased with the result I get for making old wood but sometimes the new wood effect is more appropriate for the project. Now that you have brought it to my attention I need to check my kit colors to see if any are getting close to needing replacement before I get near starting my Soleli Royal deck, which is going to be a long time from now!
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Yes Ian. That is what is was. The alignment was just not right. I used a long narrow file and widened the one that appeared out of alignment as I looked down through the whole with my flashlight. The bottom one seemed to be the issue. I just now got it glued and set correctly. It is late evening (I think we are in same time zone) around 10:15 PM. A little late to be modeling but this was going to keep me awake until I got it set. Looking at the photo I attached I can tell I need to adjust the pikes a bit but that is easy on comparison. Hopefully I can do the mizzenmast without issue. So far I am 0-2 for installing the fore and main mast without issue. 😀
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Well. Pretty good screw up noticed today. If you scroll up to post #700 to see I show the completed installation of Daniel’s etched boarding pikes on the main mast. Little frustrating to do but I thought I did it OK. Anyone who has installed them know Daniel’s instructions say to dry fit the mast in the hole and make a mark about 5mm above the surface of the deck. This mark is where the bottom ring is to be fixed and then the upper ring and pikes placed in accordance with this bottom ring. No problem. Did it just as instructed. Today I finished attaching all the appropriate blocks on the lower main mast and was finally ready to glue it in. There is a square peg on the bottom of the mast and a matching square hole in the bottom of a he hull that the mast is supposed to set in. If it is set correctly the mast is locked in position and can not turn. Applied glue to the square peg on the bottom of the mast and slid it into the holes on the decks heading toward the square hole in the bottom of the hull. As expected the mast came to a solid stop and I believed the squares were lined up as required and that the mast should not be able to turn. Ready to let it set and the glue dry. Thought I needed to adjust the mast just a little to get the top perfectly parallel with the deck. Expected that I should only have a slight bit of play since the square peg was firmly in the square hole. Well no that was not the case. The mast was able to rotate completely all the way around meaning it was not fully in and set. After scratching my head, peering into the hole with a flash light, and examining what was going on I reinserted the mast into the decks and with a little twisting, turning, and a little pressure had the mast drop down into position. Apparently my decks are slightly off alignment to where the mast does not smoothly slide into the hole. However with a bit of effort I am able to set it correctly so that is not a problem. Where the screw up came in is when I was able to set the mast correctly the bottom ring of Daniel’s etched boarding pikes dropped to the surface of the deck! For whatever reason whatever was stopping the mast from fully dropping into position happened as well when I was doing my original mark for the ring. As a result I knew I was going to have to carefully remove the boarding pike rings and slide them up about a half inch. I again resulted to using acetone to loosen the CA and ever so gently prying the rings lose enough to slide them up the mast. I reinserted the mast and located the correct seat. I marked the mast correctly this time and used CA to glue it into position. Acetone also dissolves Vallejo acrylic paint so I had to sand off all the old paint and dried CA at damaged area and refinish it. Several of the fragile pikes were bent in the process so I straighten them and all was good again! I plan to use a long narrow file to adjust the alignment of the holes in the decks so the mast will easily slide into place this time.
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Lower foremast installed with appropriate blocks at this point added and the deck eyebolts you recommended Ian.
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Thank you very much Kevin I appreciate you nice comments. We will see how this goes. I wish I could arrange for you, Daniel, Ian, and a others to come look over my shoulder and lead the way. 😊 By the way on a humorous note, how many if any, parts are floating around inside your ship? Parts accidentally knocked lose and for ever trapped inside. I know I have one cannon barrel and one cannon hatch shutter (sick bay) that I am sure of. I replaced the barrel with a spare I had and made a new shutter. However any time I tilt the ship to work on something I hear lost parts slide about the lower decks
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When I first started my HMS Victory most of the reviews I read and comments from other builders here on MSW lead me to believe building this kit would be a couple years in the making, at least. As I moved along over the last 8 months several of my friends on MSW complimented me on the speed of my progress. Even comparing my progress to how long it took them. This kind of lead me to think I might finish my HMS Victory in much less time than I expected. Well no no no no no my MSW friends that is not going to be the case. As I look over and study this rigging challenge I fully expect it to match or exceed the amount of time I spent building the ship. Wow!
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After closer look Ian I think you are right. Much easier fix than the pikes being on wrong side of mast, 😊
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Now that I have begun construction of the masts I referred to Longridge’s book for any bits of helpful information. When I was reading about the mast top I saw in the drawing that it included a copper edge around the exterior (see photo). Since I still have left over copper tape from doing the hull I decided to replicate the drawing. Added some of my hand made eyebolts to the underside. The tips of the eyebolt ends are slightly visible on the top, but acceptable.
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Thank you my friend. This is perfect.
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Thanks Ian. No I don’t have that book. Would you be able to attach a photo of the base of each of your mast so I can follow your lead?
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HAPPY NEW YEAR to all my MSW friends! Hope it is a great 2022 for each of you and your family.
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Oh that makes since for sure. 👍 Will install the lower section of the 3 masts and then attach all the various blocks to the 3 tops before installing them. In my pictures the lower masts are just dry fitted in the decks b Today I put Daniel’s etched boarding pikes around the base of the main mast. So far of all the etched parts I found this to be the most frustrating but I finally got it.
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Thanks Ian. Great suggestion. At this point would you go ahead and glue in the three lower masts sections and add the mast tops and futtock plates so stays and shrouds can be attached? Then with plans to add the remainder of masts sections later?
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I ran across a post from John Reid where he listed his recommended sequence for the standing rigging. Being a very accomplished builder I trust his opinion. His sequence seems to make sense. I think my plan will be to follow his sequence using Longridge’s book for specific instruction on how to do each line. Looking at his sequence (see photos) would any of you recommend any modifications based on your building experience?
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Ok gentlemen as I get closer and closer to starting my standing rigging I am spending more time reading the rigging chapters on rigging in Longridge’s book as you all recommend. Starting with Chap 14 on page 220 do you recommend rigging in the order that he explains each line: Main Stay then Main Stay Collar, then Main Preventer Stay, then the Fore Stay, etc, etc, etc, on through page 233?
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OK Ian pikes now correctly on port side of foremast. Thanks again for bringing that to my attention before it was to late to correct.
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OK Ian. Screwed up pikes and rings removed and cleaned with acetone. Need to refinish the lower part of the mast where the rings were and then do it over the right way, or would that be the Port way! 😊
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Oh my gosh Ian! I knew that! I can’t believe I did that. 😤 When I was dry fitting it I had that in mind the whole time! Looking back to earlier today when I was working on it I think (I know) what I did was put Daniel’s bottom ring with the holes in it on upside down. Then as a result where it is open to go up to the strip that runs up the back of the mast it put the holes on the wrong side! Curse word, curse word! I will definitely change that. I believe there are extra pikes in Daniel’s sheet. A little acetone should dissolve the CA glue. I was not happy with it any way. Thanks for reminding me. I do appreciate it. I CANNOT BELIEVE I DID THAT!!!! I did get the rest of the deadeyes put in the chains today.
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